Admiral Woofington
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Tom Hanks rapper son "Chet Haze" Goes off on Instagram
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Bro is so hood he scared of that horse behind him.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Who are you addressing this to, exactly?
What the heck? lol no. Even if someone is black from dominican republic, they cant start saying nigga this nigga that cause its not part of their language or culture lol.
Now if these dominicans grow up in areas where nigga is part of the language then yes most likely they will use that term.
I agree with this. Not sure whats hard to understand about his point.
Holy shit im dying here.
Not all of us are even okay with our own people using the word, so Im not sure what this is supposed to mean.
I'm in the camp of not giving a fuck. I have tried and fairly successfully removed the word from my own vocabulary, but I cannot help but laugh at people who think they can enforce some sort of off limits policy for the word. Its ridiculous.
This too was my experience, and I think it fuels why I dont care. Growing up everyone in the neighborhood used that sort of language. Black, Hispanic, White. No one cared.
Monocle
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i was feelnig down about my life but this cheer me up, thank u
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Remember the white students who did this prank when they graduated?
I think this is one thing that won't stop though. The prevalence of the word 'nigga' in popular culture has superseded it's use as a slur. People see it as different as the 'hard r' word. There was a good bit by Russell Peters who said with his friends, nigga became anything. 'Yo you see those Chinese niggas last night? You watching shark week? Those niggas will eat anything" etc'
Even growing up, a lot of our Indian, Fijian, Vietnamese, Croatian friends, they'd text or say 'sup nigga' and this was Canada.
Can't speak for Chet Haze, guy sounds like a douchebag wanting attention which has now getting, but not everyone who used the word does so maliciously or would be quick to throw slurs when upset. Just seems 'everybody wanna be a nigga, but don't nobody wanna be a nigga'.
Most of my friends say nigga.
White. Black. Brown. Arab. Chinese. Korean. Phillipino. Spanish. Mexican. Everyone says it.
It's hard to avoid folks who say it and it's becoming part of the culture. I hear it said at least five times a day.
In fact, it was so weird hearing my brother say "You guys are so casually racist". Like it felt weird hearing someone defend that word because no one defends it in person anymore.
Blackage
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Maybe Chet thought this was actually his dad in this video and got confused? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFRohrsZZO0
Lol. That's pretty good.
Necromanti
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Becoming? That seemed common in the past decade, but I had the impression that it was becoming less acceptable where previously no one would have batted an eye.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I'm Indian and I don't even really notice the word 'nigga' anymore since every Indian dude out here calls each other that all the time. Which is hilarious. I've seen Chinese dudes call themselves niggas.
Never not funny.
Strangely enough, the only people I've not seen say 'nigga' is black people.
Metro Vancouver btw
You are just on fire.
Never not funny.
Strangely enough, the only people I've not seen say 'nigga' is black people.
Metro Vancouver btw
You are just on fire.
Wont be long before it some other word people get upset about. Like people getting upset with calling people thugs.
Mr. Pointy
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Why, Chet Faker? Why?
T0KY0ST0MP
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My rap name is going to be Hom Tanks
Ninja Scooter
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T.Hanks
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Remember the white students who did this prank when they graduated?
I think this is one thing that won't stop though. The prevalence of the word 'nigga' in popular culture has superseded it's use as a slur. People see it as different as the 'hard r' word. There was a good bit by Russell Peters who said with his friends, nigga became anything. 'Yo you see those Chinese niggas last night? You watching shark week? Those niggas will eat anything" etc'
Even growing up, a lot of our Indian, Fijian, Vietnamese, Croatian friends, they'd text or say 'sup nigga' and this was Canada.
Can't speak for Chet Haze, guy sounds like a douchebag wanting attention which has now getting, but not everyone who used the word does so maliciously or would be quick to throw slurs when upset. Just seems 'everybody wanna be a nigga, but don't nobody wanna be a nigga'.
As much as some people may not want to hear it, this is what has to happen. If you want to remove the power of a negative slur ("nigger" in this instance) you don't ban the word, lock it behind a door and toss away the key. You alter its connotation, and that can take decades, but I think we're at a point in American society where, by and large, "nigga" has taken on a much different (and relatively much more positive) definition than its older sibling. That's a good thing, and hip-hop culture is largely to thank for that.
Sure, you will still have bigots who try to use it as a slur, but in the battle of cultures, theirs is a dying one, and no one goes down quietly. They're on the extreme fringes of society and aren't coming back into the mainstream ever again.
That isn't how you spell melanin.
Remember the white students who did this prank when they graduated?
I think this is one thing that won't stop though. The prevalence of the word 'nigga' in popular culture has superseded it's use as a slur. People see it as different as the 'hard r' word. There was a good bit by Russell Peters who said with his friends, nigga became anything. 'Yo you see those Chinese niggas last night? You watching shark week? Those niggas will eat anything" etc'
Even growing up, a lot of our Indian, Fijian, Vietnamese, Croatian friends, they'd text or say 'sup nigga' and this was Canada.
Can't speak for Chet Haze, guy sounds like a douchebag wanting attention which has now getting, but not everyone who used the word does so maliciously or would be quick to throw slurs when upset. Just seems 'everybody wanna be a nigga, but don't nobody wanna be a nigga'.
Well yeah. I avoid using the n-word in any context because of its history and because it offends people, but its widespread use by non-white people is diluting its meaning very, very fast. I think that in a couple decades, it will no longer be seen much as either a slur or a word of Black solidarity. Very soon, we're going unearth emails by a congressional candidate who uses the n-word in a non-pejorative way, and the general public will not care much.
This is just an unfortunate side effect of white appreciation for black culture, I think. People like Chet Haze want to act black without any of the social consequences associated therewith.
Mexen
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Oh wow, didn't think we were allowed to say that word.
Fake edit: those videos. Lol
Resident_UA
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No word on its own is inherently "evil". Everything depends on the context. My wife's girlfriends (white) call each other "nigga" all the time. At first I felt that it was extremely ignorant of them, but now (although I still think that it's stupid) I'm a bit indifferent. If the word looses it's negative meaning because of widespread misuse I think that's good. The less negative there is the better...
There is very little context to the word that can make me feel its appropriate. I just don't feel the same.
Additionally, given its widespread colourful usage on the interwebs, the negative usage is still alive and well. Its not losing its meaning anytime soon.
NickFire
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I agree and will take it a step further. The people who claim only certain demographics can use the word are actually the most racist, because they are perpetuating different rules for different people based on genetics.
Say whatever you want, but most kids born after 1975 have grown up in a completely different world than prior generations, where hip hop has been a massively influential part of their life. These kids hear songs day in and day out where the word is widespread, resulting in it ingraining a meaning far different than the original version, and subsequently telling them they cant use it without being labeled a racist if they are white is promoting the notion that people treat each other differently for no reason other than skin color.
Resident_UA
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Don't get me wrong. I don't think it's "appropriate". It's pretty stupid, but so is 90% of everything else they say.
NickFire
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Its two completely different things to say no one should say it, and "can you believe that white guy/girl said it." Saying no one can say it is perfectly fine. Saying only some people can say it is promoting racism.
No one should be allowed or denied any benefits / rights / privileges based on skin color, period.
What?
First off did you read my post?
I don't give a fuck over your decision to drop the N bomb, I don't give a fuck at all. I just have very little respect for you if you do.
Also, are we really going down the "reverse-racism" rabbit hole here?
NickFire
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I read it, and thought you were saying no one should use it, which I was agreeing is a valid argument (as opposed to claiming only some people can use it, which is not a valid argument to me unless you want to promote treating people differently based on skin color).
As for reverse racism rabbit hole, if you are suggesting treating people differently based on skin color is ok some of thee time, I disagree as that is racism, and have no problem saying that.
There is a reason why the words usage has proliferate in African - American circles after all, it was a way to take back/reclaim the power that the word once had to discriminate and dehumanize them.
The historical context of the word is still very much relevant given we're having this conversation.
But if you're hung up over the fact that its usage very much frowned upon more for one group over another, over the history surrounding the word in the first place.. more power to you I guess.
The reverse racism here though is the idea that the disparity from the social contempt of the word for one group(thats not targetted by the word) over another is far more "racist" than the actual racism surrounding the word itself.
Again by all neans use it, I honestly don't care one way or another over the decision you decide to choose.
NickFire
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Please don't try to shame me into believing that we should teach people something is ok for one ethnic group but not another.
Sure.
theignoramus
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That's the way the world works dude. I don't have an issue with not being able to say slurs pertaining to other groups even though they call themselves that because I'm not trying to be in anyone else's lane.
It doesn't hurt me having to refrain from those words and I sure as fuck dont feel like a victim of a perfectly understandable social double standard.
I don't feel entitled enough to insist that I not be excluded from certain slang words.
Kid Kamikaze10
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Riddle me this. Some women call each other bitches and cunts as means of endearment sometimes, but we all understand that generally, those words are disrespectful, right?
Some gays and lesbians do the same with fag, but we know that it's generally disrespectful as fuck, right?
Same for a bunch of slurs.
So why does the exclusively black one have to be the one that "must lose power" and "has to be accepted"?
Why? Explain why that doesn't apply to the others. Because there a bunch of slurs I can think of that social acceptance will never be an option. Never.
Some gays and lesbians do the same with fag, but we know that it's generally disrespectful as fuck, right?
Same for a bunch of slurs.
So why does the exclusively black one have to be the one that "must lose power" and "has to be accepted"?
Why? Explain why that doesn't apply to the others. Because there a bunch of slurs I can think of that social acceptance will never be an option. Never.
Zantetsuken
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I don't know why I thought of Chet Steadman from Rookie of the Year.
NickFire
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You are openly promoting disparate treatment based on race right now, and apparently don't even realize it. Or you do, and just don't see how quickly you defeat the argument that no one should ever be treated different based on skin color, by saying "except for certain things."
Resident_UA
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Nobody is defending that it's OK to be "disrespectful". You can say "scum" and be more disrespectful than saying "cunt". Context is very important. It's your responsibility to use them appropriately. You can also be ignorant and misuse them. In this case the question is if it is actually hurting somebody.
NickFire
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If you told me its ok for a gay person to say fag but not a straight person, I would say that's bullshit because it advocates disparate treatment. Same applies to every other example.
If you told me that anyone can use any word as a term of endearment, or no one can, I'd say that is treating people the same regardless of forces beyond their control, and that is ok.
Its really simple.
Black people don't have to do shit for you and can say whatever the fuck they want in their music.
Kid Kamikaze10
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So simple, it would only work if we lived in a social without things like history.
In other words, I wouldn't tell you that, because that's dumb.
I guess if you have no social awareness it's pretty simple yeah. Otherwise no, no it really isn't.
NickFire
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What's dumb is suggesting that continuing to support disparate treatment is not counter-productive to ending a history of disparate treatment. Every time someone says disparate treatment is wrong, except for ______________, the "except for ____________" just defeated their argument by advocating disparate treatment.
in the bubble of an area or high school you grow up in using the word nigga as a non/black person might be normal and accepted.
But have fun with that outside your bubble. I wish everyone could take no offense to it and we could all move on but it's unrealistic to expect. You can fight your battle and potentially lose respect from a lot of people or just not use it.
Your sword to fall on really. I personally don't damn every white person as a racist who uses it as it's not that hard to judge their intent, but I'll judge them as someone naive if the are saying it in public. I have a black friend or two who think it's a sign of comrodery and acceptance to encourage me to call them "my nigga" but I don't make a habit out of it. I'm often surrounded by strangers when with them and I'm not about to care enough to use it vs. potentially upsetting someone.
But have fun with that outside your bubble. I wish everyone could take no offense to it and we could all move on but it's unrealistic to expect. You can fight your battle and potentially lose respect from a lot of people or just not use it.
Your sword to fall on really. I personally don't damn every white person as a racist who uses it as it's not that hard to judge their intent, but I'll judge them as someone naive if the are saying it in public. I have a black friend or two who think it's a sign of comrodery and acceptance to encourage me to call them "my nigga" but I don't make a habit out of it. I'm often surrounded by strangers when with them and I'm not about to care enough to use it vs. potentially upsetting someone.
I used to think there were two different words but there aren't. Nigga is jus how they say nigger in the south. Black people CAN, should they decide to, use the word in their own way. Everyone else, can understand. And that's as deep as it goes. Its like the words faggot and retard. You can argue till your face turns blue the use age and context, or why it shouldn't offend some people, but at the end of the day its not your word to decide or battle to have a say in.
I'm telling you as an ascended hoodrat lol. I grew up saying nigga and everyone around me. Then I took one trip to north Carolina and suddenly realized that racism is still alive and that my context for open use of the word was incomplete
NickFire
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You can make all the excuses you want to make yourself feel better about supporting disparate treatment, but at the end of the day those are excuses for why your support disparate treatment (which is racism when based on race).
At one point there were millions of people with all sorts of excuses as to why discrimination laws were punishing people for forces beyond their control. The excuses were wrong then, and remain wrong now. Doesn't matter who makes them.
soul creator
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I keep saying "Chet Haze" in my head in the same voice as the "Just Blaze" name drop, and it's making me chuckle at my desk at how absurd it is
This is the kind of equality you're worried about, being able to use a racial slur free of consequence?
Once all things are actually equal, then you call black people niggers to your heart's content.
NickFire
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LOL. This is not any kind of right I could care less about. I just refuse to deny the hypocrisy of saying treat everyone the same except for _______. People who want to treat people based on color are advocating racism, and its a shame how many people continue to do so and then think the people calling them on it are the actual racists. Whether it pertains to giving someone a job, a benefit, or accepting the way they talk, any time you advocate disparate treatment based on skin color you are promoting racism.
You are comical actually. I advocate that disparate treatment should be stamped out, but completely, but because I don't think disparate treatment is sometimes ok I am being called the racist by you.
Its just not your fight dude. Same as the other offensive words. Its not your fight, not your right to decide what's right or wrong, not your emotions to be sensitive to, and not your word to use...its as simple as that.
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