You know what I mean. In terms of the debate on whether he should be able to speak or not. Jesus.
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You know what I mean. In terms of the debate on whether he should be able to speak or not. Jesus.
hydrophilic attack
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Why do we keep having the same contrary nonsense in these types of threads?
Let's make this simple.
When Trump and his bullshit administration deal with traditional Republican vs Democrat issues like health care, gun control, taxes, education, the military, and foreign policy, we can have debates. Those are real issues that can have either liberal or conservative solutions.
Trump wants a Muslim ban. Trump wants to actually build a wall between Mexico and the United States. Trump has numerous people in his administration that have a nazi-like agenda against people of color, and people who are not heterosexual. Trump put an absolutely unqualified and dangerous individual in charge of an organization that handles nuclear weapons. Trump put an absolutely unqualified individual in charge of the department that handles education. Trump wants to shut down communication between the white house, and the media.
These aren't things that can be debated. They are wrong. They go against human decency, they go against civil rights, they go against foreign etiquette, they go against educated sense.
It's that simple. It really is. That's why there's this violent dissent from the liberal left. There's no conversations that need to be had about banning an entire religion from this country. About ethnic cleansing. About homosexual curing. That isn't republican talking points.
That's being a nazi.
Let's make this simple.
When Trump and his bullshit administration deal with traditional Republican vs Democrat issues like health care, gun control, taxes, education, the military, and foreign policy, we can have debates. Those are real issues that can have either liberal or conservative solutions.
Trump wants a Muslim ban. Trump wants to actually build a wall between Mexico and the United States. Trump has numerous people in his administration that have a nazi-like agenda against people of color, and people who are not heterosexual. Trump put an absolutely unqualified and dangerous individual in charge of an organization that handles nuclear weapons. Trump put an absolutely unqualified individual in charge of the department that handles education. Trump wants to shut down communication between the white house, and the media.
These aren't things that can be debated. They are wrong. They go against human decency, they go against civil rights, they go against foreign etiquette, they go against educated sense.
It's that simple. It really is. That's why there's this violent dissent from the liberal left. There's no conversations that need to be had about banning an entire religion from this country. About ethnic cleansing. About homosexual curing. That isn't republican talking points.
That's being a nazi.
d00d3n
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The bolded comment is so fucked up. The ACLU is not "on Milo's side". If it is either "admit that the ACLU are nazi collaborators" or "go fuck yourself, you are a Trump supporter", then I guess I am in the latter camp.
The Dutch Slayer
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Just saw this, fantastic interview really enjoyed it 
Amen. It troubles me when people can't fucking understand this.
Alex_Mexico
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Can someone post Piers's Twitter profile pic so we can stop taking his "devil's advocate" arguments serious? That pic tells you everything you need to know.
Link?
WrenchNinja
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No, he does not.
lmao gees these people are so devious.
Rentahamster
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Well, if he's not a liberal, he sure does hold a lot of left leaning positions, even more so than many American "liberals". I hope you guys haven't berated other progressives and Sanders supporters in the past regarding "purity tests".
And I'm the one who was told to google Piers to see who he is? lol.
You say "tone policing", I say "effective persuasive arguments".
Am I the only one who took notes in debate class?
jellies_two
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Most of them them refuse to go there because they DO know it.
That's the whole point
And it's happening at the top. Nobody can ask trump about a ban that he wants because he pretends it's not a ban. Nobody can ask him about white extremist support because he pretends to have disavowed them while signalling to them madly nobody can ask spicer about kissing Putin ass because spicer says the question is ludicrous.
They are pretending to be something acceptable just different, and piers is pretending that's who they are and is pointing at the outrage and gaslighting everyone.
That's why milo shouldn't be listened to or be invited on because From his boss on down they won't actually explain what they are doing. So anyone at his level is talking bullshit about a trump that doesn't even exist. You lost if you even accept there is something to be discussed.
The only somewhat honest person in all of his is Richard Spencer and he can't talk without getting punched .
BrutishMrFish
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Republicans and Democrats alike used those against Trump on a regular basis, and yet he's still president. Facts don't change minds that are already made (see the backfire effect).
Anyone who was watching probably already knew the arguments for the Muslim ban actually being a Muslim ban. Piers was being a disingenuous snot and was shot down appropriately.
WrenchNinja
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You're the only one who doesn't know what a debate is.
You say effective persuasive arguments?
Yooou?
If you are trying to be an example of the success of the persuasive Modest Liberal, friend, it ain't working.
Rentahamster
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Perhaps it's changed.
Yes. Meeeeeee. Given how many Republicans I've convinced to believing in climate change, accepting gay marriage, questioning capitalism, losing faith that the Republican leadership has their best interests in mind, questioning their faith in god, etc etc, I think I have a pretty good track record.
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