BobTheFork
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I'd love to know to he blames for all of this now?
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Too Human pulled from Xbox Live Marketplace
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NullPointer
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So untrue. There's a lot there to love, but you have to dedicate time and overlook so much jank and lack of polish and missed opportunities. I can more than understand why people wouldn't want to do that though ;p
Anyone but himself.
SlipperyMoose
Member
I think Halo will be able added to that once things are said and done. It is kind of ballsy announcing trilogies before the release of your first game.
Clay Davis
Member
yeah, I can understand why people aren't willing to give the game a chance based on dyack's behaviour, but the game isn't as bad as some claim it is.
loot system is great, combat using the analogue sticks is also great and worls surprisingly well / has depth and the story is somewhat engaging.
locations are nicely varied, visuals aren't great but that doesn't stop some of the locations from being impressive, there's more but I feel it's pointless to continue as it will undoubtedly fall on deaf ears.
If it was announced as a trilogy, it counts. So that's maybe 2?
Halo will make it, but I won't count it until that third game is on the shelves of stores.
NoirVisage
Banned
Don't worry Dennis, your legacy will live on in joke and GIF form!
Justified this games existence.
bigdaddygamebot
Member
If you listen to nimrods it is.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
boutrosinit
Street Fighter IV World Champion
Agreed. I remember getting it and thinking:
This shit took ten years?
These arseholes still get tens of millions to make games?
Who the fuck programmed this shit as it moves like drunk toffee? Blind people with their brains removed?
If you think this was a good game, it's not. You would do well to seek out more games and broaden your knowledge of better versions of what this was trying to be.
GayForMaster
Banned
Haha. Game was a piece of shit anyway. Who cares.
Zomba13
Member
That's what I did. Was about £3. Not in the plastic wrap but does have the MS 360 seal thing across the opening.
Well, wasn't it that disastrous E3 demo that got this whole ball rolling? As I recall, he began claiming that it was Epic who was responsible for the poor showing, which led to the lawsuit, which led to the counter-lawsuit, which led to SK basically being killed off.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Denis should have pleaded insanity effect.
Omegasquash
Member
Lance Armstrong should take notes.
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The Everyman
he suffered the biggest fall from grace i can think of in the gaming industry. i can understand him disappearing.
i still wish the dude all the best.
Projectjustice
Banned
Its crazy how great SK used to be. Talk about the biggest fall from grace in game dev history.
And courts can just order that a game be made to not exist for that? That's fucking stupid.
Omegasquash
Member
It's what ego and poor leadership get you. Dyack understandably had lots of personal stake in the game, but he screwed himself and those that worked for him in the end. It's a pity, but he's got no one to blame but himself.
No, it's not. SK took code from the engine to use in their own. The game would not have existed had they not stolen from Epic, as I understand it.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
Not even then, it's definitely better than 5/10 any way you look at it. Even most reviews agree with that.
I really enjoyed it for what it was, so I'd probably give it a nice 8/10. It has plenty of flaws, but the things that work (and that includes the basic gameplay), work really well.
The idea is that every copy is using stolen property, and the only way to deal with that is to destroy the game. In theory I imagine he could take everything NOT related to the game engine whatsoever IE art assets (at least those that weren't prepared for in-game use), the story, music, VA, and sound effects, and just build the game again on a new engine or properly licensed UE3. I think the same is ordered for counterfeit books, and they probably view it similar to that.
AlphaTwo00
Member
He can't. Nintendo owns that patent.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Agree here! Really enjoyed it but has some really glaring issues! I have a unopened copy I grabbed when the OT was first talked about.
They can't keep the pieces of code that belong to Epic, and Epic doesn't own the pieces of code that are totally original so you can't just give it to them. It's impossible to unwind the two, so the only solution is to destroy it.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Anybody remember when Matt Cassamassina was hyping the shit out of this game?
That's fucking awful too.
At most they should order Silicon Knights to turn over any profits made on it, but destroy it? That's a fucking disgrace.
Jake Tower
Banned
me too
Dreams-Visions
Member
Dyack has other things to take his mind off this, I'm sure.
If you want to pay for sex like he probably does, you too can have a pair of those.
Thanks man, I really appreciate it.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I wonder if he promised them 3 orgasms, came in 30 seconds, rolled over and while they were asleep left without paying them.
Considering that the third game is just cheap retro-styled pap that barely resembles the previous two games, I would say no. The did not really finish the Penny Arcade trilogy with the same style and production values that the first two promised.
If the Too Human trilogy was completed as a series of browser Flash games I wouldn't say that counts either.
.hack//GU, and while not trilogies .hack and Digital Devil Saga announced they'd be multipart games and actually got completed as they said they would. They were also more smartly developed I think, .hack may well have been fully developed ahead of time and all three used the same engines and assets (and character progress in the case of .hack stuff) to release in a fast time frame, I think it only took about a year for all of .hack to come out, similar for the GU stuff, and DDS was half a year apart roughly.
But, yeah, I think of all the attempts at an AAA planned trilogy only ME actually succeeded, and that one didn't really have a solid idea of where it wanted to go all along like those other games so that probably could've ended just as badly had the first game not impressed and Bioware was as reputable as they were.
Dictator93
Member
I vote for a tie with Too Human and Mass Effect
I never realised how much this game was hated until I got to this thread. I got it for Christmas in 09 and enjoyed the crap out of it. I liked the way loot worked and loved working on the complete armour sets, and of course, bashing the crap out of anything that moved.
Shame it's gone down this road, I was really hoping for a TH2. Guess that's a near impossibility now.
Shame it's gone down this road, I was really hoping for a TH2. Guess that's a near impossibility now.
Manmademan
Member
I just ordered a new PS3 copy of Xmen: Destiny off of amazon, just to have it since they're destroying all copies.
I'm leaving it sealed. no intent to play it.
I'm leaving it sealed. no intent to play it.
Deified Data
Banned
So these games are actually being pulled from shelves and destroyed? Meaning they could become rare?
Meh, while ME screwed up I think it's more a lesson for why what they promised (or what we hoped for) simply isn't practical in an AAA game. A dynamic, wildly branching story needs lower tech in order to actually create and actualize the possibilities in a timely manner, but ME was going for amazing looking, fully voiced, awesome set pieces, and you can't really just spend a lot of time on stuff like that only for very few to see it among those that beat it, nevermind the fact truly taking advantage of the possibilities would take up way too much space and development time.
I actually think Epic Mickey is the top one with Too Human: the others resulted at least in one great game, and Epic Mickey certainly could've been way more fun even if Disney's constraints kept it from matching that crazy dark artwork and similar applies to Too Human. But both are moderately above average, 6/10 games at best, MAYBE 7/10 if you're generous.