Zoe said:Only Tokyo? I don't think a JR pass would be worth it...
Bill_Duke said:My wife and I were supposed to fly to Tokyo today for our wedding trip, but our flight got cancelled because of the volcanic activity in Iceland. So it's not going to happen now. Hopefully we can get everything arranged for a second try later this year.![]()
jaxword said:Ok, what pass should I get for going around tokyo for 16 days?
Srider said:No one is really going to make a big deal out of it, but just think of it like this:
You walk up to pay in the US, and the clerk holds out his hand, but instead of handing him the bill you ignore the request and set it down on the counter. The guy probably wont say anything about it, but its just unusual.
Like I said, no one really puts much thought into it, and its not like anyone will give you shit about it. Its just such a homogeneous society that locals all do it without thinking, and people not doing it is going to stand out like a sore thumb.
Don't think that you always have to use it. If its offered, do use it to avoid any awkward situation if you care. If there isn't one, don't use it.
God it sounds like I'm making it out to be a bigger deal than it really is. I'm just trying to help people avoid feeling like a total outsider since locals will easily fall into that "oh my god I'm interacting with a gaijin" mode at the first sign of nonconformity.
jaxword said:Ok, what pass should I get for going around tokyo for 16 days?
Srider said:You guys should understand that whatever treatment you received in Japan is probably not what someone local would experience unless you look and behave like a local Japanese.
Especially in Tokyo where locals have experience with foreigners, they will treat you with what they are used to from foreigners, such as not using the tray when you hand over money. People probably expect you to not use it if you don't look remotely Asian.
If you look Asian, not using the tray is like a big red flag alert to locals that you aren't one of them.
Still, I wouldn't really put too much thought into unless you live here.
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Bill_Duke said:My wife and I were supposed to fly to Tokyo today for our wedding trip, but our flight got cancelled because of the volcanic activity in Iceland. So it's not going to happen now. Hopefully we can get everything arranged for a second try later this year.![]()
jaxword said:Ok, what pass should I get for going around tokyo for 16 days?
I went in October last year, weather was fucking amazing, go for it!Furoba said:Be warned, Mid-July until September might be scorching hot, June soaking wet. October / November should be really nice though (5 months wait though...à.
how hot does it get? I live in LA so 90-100 temps are doable.Furoba said:Be warned, Mid-July until September might be scorching hot, June soaking wet. October / November should be really nice though (5 months wait though...à.
Vox-Pop said:how hot does it get? I live in LA so 90-100 temps are doable.
How is Jan-May?
Valkyr Junkie said:Well, 15/16 days done in Japan and I'm back in Tokyo until my flight leaves Friday morning. I spent the first 3 days in Tokyo and took care of all the Sakura stuff back then, but now I'm ready to actually have a "vacation." Although I'm still definitely gonna hit-up some of the day trips from Tokyo. I made it a point to try out a lot of the local cuisine at the places I've visited, so now I'm just gonna focus on the best of the rest.
Valkyr Junkie said:
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this is in Asakusa right? near K's House?
That Night was spent in Shibuya. :O WTF. I dont understand where all these people came from for one and that many people with the lack of tourist also suprised me. wtf do tourists do in japan? I mean really? do they all just visit temples? Shibuya was NUTS. The entire time i was there the city was already shaming NYC but this just took the cake. Again another place to visit if you just want to really feel the life of the city.
WasteLand Soldier said:-Work
What do all these people do? I'm originally from new york and not even in NYC do you see people like this. Full on business attire all day every day it seemed, from young to old. I mean I know everyone cant be a business man/women or are they?
-Women
First of all the women there are fucking HOT. Geez. Ties in to the first question but dammit skirts and heels all damn day was KILLING me. OMG. sogood.gif The question is tho, why do so many seem to be unmarried? Same with the men. I never noticed wedding rings unless the people were older and most women in their 20s/30s were unmarried if you go by the ring thing but they all always seemed so tired/depressed looking. Full work days with no marriage? whats that about?
-Children/Schools
Didnt notice many infants which may also tie into the other things. The younger kids were all in uniform tho. Is every school a private school or is uniform just required everywhere? I knew about the whole schoolgirl thing but it just seems like school is taken very seriously there. I also noticed younger workers. One of the subway conductors I saw couldnt have been older than 22-24. Very into his job too. It was amazing to just sit and watch him work. Do the kids graduate younger and then just go right into the workforce?
-Marrying Americans. UGLY ones.
OK this last one is something I just couldnt get for the life of me. You'd have this very pretty, docile looking asian female attached to a big, fat, not even attractive in the least american guy. I mean whats up with that? Does it tie into one of my other questions where the single woman just wanna get married and just do this or is there something i'm missing?
Anyway, the trip was amazing and i cant believe i saw so much in so little time. An amazing place to visit and i'm suprised that not many people think of it as a vacation destination. The People, the places, the food, the shopping all top notch and just SAFE.
I actually felt safer there than my home town of NYC or here in LA. Thanks again to all those here who answered questions and were helpful.![]()
WasteLand Soldier said:thanks for the response! what do you mean a certain kind of westerner? you mean someone into japanese culture? oh i had 2 more questions too! I know Japan as a country is in lots of debt but what about people? I mean here in america people just buy dumb stuff. In japan with the whole "Look your best, do your best" attitude, which is great BTW, does it drive people into debt? I couldnt help but notice how just about every woman looked like a model. I mean thats gotta be expensive. Or does everyone just make a lot of money? What are salaries like?
The other one was Cell phones!!! OMG the US is so behind. While we seem to be fascinated with our touch screens, the majority of japanese used flip phones with large screens, seemed to be content surfing on text based sites, and used their phones from anything from TV to Math Formulas for their homework. They also work EVERYWHERE. on the streets, down in the deepest subways. How is the cell network so advanced?
Hell i'll throw one more out there. There seem to be different races of japanese within japan. is this correct? One that stood out most seemed to be a darker skinned japanese race that almost seemed indian/hindi but wasnt. i saw a chick like this that reminded me of michelle rodriguez. so hot. geez.
WasteLand Soldier said:thanks for the response! what do you mean a certain kind of westerner? you mean someone into japanese culture? oh i had 2 more questions too! I know Japan as a country is in lots of debt but what about people? I mean here in america people just buy dumb stuff. In japan with the whole "Look your best, do your best" attitude, which is great BTW, does it drive people into debt? I couldnt help but notice how just about every woman looked like a model. I mean thats gotta be expensive. Or does everyone just make a lot of money? What are salaries like?
The other one was Cell phones!!! OMG the US is so behind. While we seem to be fascinated with our touch screens, the majority of japanese used flip phones with large screens, seemed to be content surfing on text based sites, and used their phones from anything from TV to Math Formulas for their homework. They also work EVERYWHERE. on the streets, down in the deepest subways. How is the cell network so advanced?
Hell i'll throw one more out there. There seem to be different races of japanese within japan. is this correct? One that stood out most seemed to be a darker skinned japanese race that almost seemed indian/hindi but wasnt. i saw a chick like this that reminded me of michelle rodriguez. so hot. geez.
WasteLand Soldier said:thanks for the response! what do you mean a certain kind of westerner? you mean someone into japanese culture? oh i had 2 more questions too! I know Japan as a country is in lots of debt but what about people? I mean here in america people just buy dumb stuff. In japan with the whole "Look your best, do your best" attitude, which is great BTW, does it drive people into debt? I couldnt help but notice how just about every woman looked like a model. I mean thats gotta be expensive. Or does everyone just make a lot of money? What are salaries like?
Vox-Pop said:did you go by yourself WasteLand Soldier, is so, how was it. Was traveling alone ok?
WasteLand Soldier said:thanks for the response! what do you mean a certain kind of westerner? you mean someone into japanese culture? oh i had 2 more questions too! I know Japan as a country is in lots of debt but what about people? I mean here in america people just buy dumb stuff. In japan with the whole "Look your best, do your best" attitude, which is great BTW, does it drive people into debt? I couldnt help but notice how just about every woman looked like a model. I mean thats gotta be expensive. Or does everyone just make a lot of money? What are salaries like?
The other one was Cell phones!!! OMG the US is so behind. While we seem to be fascinated with our touch screens, the majority of japanese used flip phones with large screens, seemed to be content surfing on text based sites, and used their phones from anything from TV to Math Formulas for their homework. They also work EVERYWHERE. on the streets, down in the deepest subways. How is the cell network so advanced?
Hell i'll throw one more out there. There seem to be different races of japanese within japan. is this correct? One that stood out most seemed to be a darker skinned japanese race that almost seemed indian/hindi but wasnt. i saw a chick like this that reminded me of michelle rodriguez. so hot. geez.
WasteLand Soldier said:i thought the subway bathrooms were clean tho. i mean compared to american restrooms. i swear when i got to the airport here in the US...the airport restroom, it smelled of piss. :lol and i'm already getting tired of the service people back here at home too. everyone was so nice in japan. so happy to be at work, so happy to be doing a job. in america some of these people are just lazy. and the attitudes...UGH. i miss tokyo![]()
Yes. Budget at least half a day just for this if you like anime.Shirokun said:Akihabara is great for games(check out the third floor of Softmap next to Club Sega : O), anime, and gadgets, but if you're really into the anime scene, Nakano Broadway(floors 2-4) at the end of the Sunroad outside of Nakano station is heaven.
Natetan said:As for races, I agree with you. Japan is kind of a melting pot of mongoloid and polynesian asians. In China, Chinese people generally look like Han for the most part. Japan has a pretty wide variety of Asian.
Valkyr Junkie said:Aight GAF, 2 full days left before I'm outta Tokyo. I've exhausted the Ueno area, Yokohama, Odaiba, and Kamakura. Any last minute suggestions for shopping and good eats? I still want a t-shirt for myself (maybe something electronic too, but I haven't been blown away by prices), a souvenir for my skater brother, and pharmacist step-dad :lol
jaxword said:So I'm a first timer who has to get himself from his airplane, to a train, to a hotel...
1. How do I go about getting a train ticket in the airport? I assume there'll be some signs in English, but will the desk be fairly obvious?
2. I'm probably gonna be lugging my big suitcase with me on the train...any tips on how to make this as inobtrustive as possible?
3. I've been told not to look around obviously while on the train, so as not to draw attention to my "weird foreigner" status. Is this so? I'd like to at least look at the scenery...
OuterWorldVoice said:Wat? They look half-Korean, half-Chinese. With a sprinkling of hairy Ainu. And not coincidentally either.
I will say that sometimes I see Native Americans who look straight-Japanese all up in the cheekbone area.
Jack Random said:Clearly he REALLY likes shrines.
Me, i'm all shrined out after like two
Me neither. And since I commute daily in a train filled with tourists (among them Japanese) gapping out of the window Im not planning holding back when Im in Japan. Lets face it. Im a clueless tall blonde foreigner. Im never going to be mistaken for a native. :lolNatetan said:Trains are in the bottom of the airport. JR and Keisei platforms are right next to each other. very easy to find. Pick up the suica pass for a bargain on the narita express, or if the new keisei skyliner is running you can take that to nippori in 35 or so minutes.
Airport trains have places for luggage in the vestibules. no problem there.
Never heard about 'not looking around' before. Just act as you always would.
distantmantra said:The Uniqlo in Harajuku has the best selection of their shirts.
Shimokitazawa and Jiyugaoka are great neighborhoods, as is Yanaka (Sendagi metro station or Nippori JR station).
jaxword said:1. How do I go about getting a train ticket in the airport? I assume there'll be some signs in English, but will the desk be fairly obvious?