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[Duane Cunningham]

I think Bill's "heel turn" is kind of in character. He's always been sort of a sucker for authority figures, and his lawfullness usually trumps his sense of morality when it really comes down to it. I think he's more good than evil, but laws and authority come first. He won't stick up for an innocent person if it's at odds with an established power structure.

-The Authority told him to turn an innocent girl (Jessica), he did it.
-He turned a blind eye to Tara's imprisonment when Russel was king of Louisiana.
-He wouldn't save this screaming hostage from Salome.
-When the Authority was a Mainstreamer organisation, Bill was a dyed in the wool Mainstreamer.
-Now there's been a shift and they're Sanguinistas. Suddenly Bill has found religion.


And there are more examples. You can say he didn't have a choice in most of these instances, but he never even tried. He could've let Tara go in secret, or said "I know this one, she tastes like shit" or something. But ultimately, he's a rule follower first, and a good person second, and that's been pretty consistent throughout the whole series. He's a Lawful-Neutral, he'll always follow the rules when it comes down to it.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

I was pretty sure they said outright that it was Sweetie.

Ah, okay. I must have blanked during that scene.

Interesting twist would be if the blood of Lilith is just Salome's blood and she has some weird mutant property that makes her blood an addictive drug for other vampires. Since fairy blood is the only blood known to be different for vampires and able to make them high, maybe she's Warlow or maybe Warlow worked for her, and she has some kind of special fairy blood? Maybe Eric's immunity isn't Godric's ghost, but the fact he fully drained a fairy himself.

Good theory. Maybe Salome is a Maenad Vampire or something?

 

[KibblesBits]

Good theory. Maybe Salome is a Maenad Vampire or something?

Or it could be (speculation)

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Salome is just drinking more blood from the vial. Or she could actually be a child of Lilith. I think the former more than the latter.

 

[jokingbird]

Salome had the blood of Lilith stuff in her when Bill bit her, which is why he fell into line.

Interesting twist would be if the blood of Lilith is just Salome's blood and she has some weird mutant property that makes her blood an addictive drug for other vampires. Since fairy blood is the only blood known to be different for vampires and able to make them high, maybe she's Warlow or maybe Warlow worked for her, and she has some kind of special fairy blood? Maybe Eric's immunity isn't Godric's ghost, but the fact he fully drained a fairy himself.

I like this theory. I could see them connecting all of the stories together by having the fairies trying to kill off the vampires by using magic to enchant the blood and make them crazy.

Ah, okay. I must have blanked during that scene.

It was quick, but Bud Dearborne calls her the dragon to Sookie right before they drugged her. Saying something like you don't speak to the dragon that way or something similar. I remember it being brief.

 

[Carbonox]

Great episode. Fucking love this season more than any other and shit the bed I'd let Salome do filthy filthy things to me. Nora's still the most gorgeous gal in the show for me, though.

Glad to see some storylines combine and some end (the Obama's and the Ifirt). The next 3 episodes are gonna be madddd.

 

[NateDrake]

I agree with the fairies tainting the blood. I base that on the

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preview for the next three episodes. They show the vial of blood get darker, almost like how the fairies warned Sookie she would lose her light if Vamps kept drinking her blood.

Of course could be looking into it too much.

 

[Vyse The Legend]

I thought the show was heavily, heavily suggesting that the blood in the vial was not really Lilith's. Eric questions what it is a few times, and when Bill bites Salome, he gets the same "high" effect and sees Lilith.

Perhaps, it is Salome's blood, and she's really a fairy that was turned into a vampire -- or something else.

 

[AXavierB]

Didn't Bill start hallucinating before he bit Salome?

 

[Vyse The Legend]

Didn't Bill start hallucinating before he bit Salome?

Yes, he saw Sookie, which, to me, was just their way of visually highlighting his internal struggle in that moment. Eric told him to think Sookie in the scenes leading up to it when he was attempting to sway Bill to his side.

After he tasted her blood, though, he got high and went off the deep end seeing Lilith once more.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

It kind of bugs me that it's so obvious how some things are going to go down but I'm also kind of excited to see it happen. You just know Eric will be close to being murked and then Bill will eventually come around, and the 2 will cause an authority bloodbath. But I guess you can't discount the crazyness factor this show has going on, so anything can happen. But that's how I see those 2 character arcs going.

 

[Nizz]

True Blood 5x10 Promo - "Gone, Gone, Gone" (HD)

Something I saw in that promo that has me intrigued,

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it happens quickly but I see a scene with Jason in a grave/ditch with what looks like Jessica next to him. As if she's turning him.

What a great show last night. Just when Sam and Luna help take care of the supes hate group, poor Emma gets taken away by the most powerful known vampire around. Sam has been awesome this season.

Bill's betrayal at the end stung, man. It was awesome having the Bill/Eric Bro Team. Bill's plan is working lovely as far as causing havoc by destroying the True Blood factories. Things are getting crazier than normal.

I wonder if Martha and some of the other werewolves who aren't too happy with how JD is running the pack will seek out Alcide and ask him to try to take over the pack. I doubt Alcide would take V to even the odds.

 

[EulaCapra]

My theory on Lilith's blood: it's just some mystical faerie blood. Maybe the faeries/goblin faeries have planned this from the start inciting a war between vampires and humans to eliminate as many vampires as possible for retribution. Gaping plot hole though would be the history of Lilith. Faked? Real person? Maybe she wasn't a vampire in the first place?

Interesting episode. Extremely abrupt end to Terry's story though. When the ghost showed up saying "You know what you must do" I thought Terry being the kind man he is would shoot the floor and not killing anyone would be the noble thing to do, not shooting Scott Foley's head lol.

Props to anyone who predicted Dragon would be Sweetie weeks ago.

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

My theory on Lilith's blood: it's just some mystical faerie blood. Maybe the faeries/goblin faeries have planned this from the start inciting a war between vampires and humans to eliminate as many vampires as possible for retribution. Gaping plot hole though would be the history of Lilith. Faked? Real person? Maybe she wasn't a vampire in the first place?

Interesting episode. Extremely abrupt end to Terry's story though. When the ghost showed up saying "You know what you must do" I thought Terry being the kind man he is would shoot the floor and not killing anyone would be the noble thing to do, not shooting Scott Foley's head lol.

Props to anyone who predicted Dragon would be Sweetie weeks ago.

I was about to post something similar

the effect it has on vamps are very alike to how Eric reacts or how Jessica reacted to the very presence of a fairy.

 

[LM4sure]

I thought the show was heavily, heavily suggesting that the blood in the vial was not really Lilith's. Eric questions what it is a few times, and when Bill bites Salome, he gets the same "high" effect and sees Lilith.

Perhaps, it is Salome's blood, and she's really a fairy that was turned into a vampire -- or something else.

I was thinking the same thing. When he bit Salome he start hallucinating so that makes sense to me. I hadn't thought that she might be a fairy, but that could make sense!!

 

[Hex]

I have come to the conclusion that Steve will be the one to kill Russel and save the day or at least part of it.

 

[Silas Lang]

I thought the show was heavily, heavily suggesting that the blood in the vial was not really Lilith's. Eric questions what it is a few times, and when Bill bites Salome, he gets the same "high" effect and sees Lilith.

Perhaps, it is Salome's blood, and she's really a fairy that was turned into a vampire -- or something else.

A fairy turned vampire would be interesting. If a "supernatural" turns to a vampire I wonder if they would still hold their previous powers.

 

[Log4Girlz]

A fairy turned vampire would be interesting. If a "supernatural" turns to a vampire I wonder if they would still hold their previous powers.

I would like to see that as well. In the books the answer

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no

 

[greyshark]

I have come to the conclusion that Steve will be the one to kill Russel and save the day or at least part of it.

I wouldn't give Steve that much credit.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Steve is awesome though. Hope he makes it out of the inevitable list of people that get killed as the finale nears.

 

[Hex]

I wouldn't give Steve that much credit.

I think Russel will try and do something to his pet, and Steve will defend it.
Steve will stay the face of the VPN for the new regime.
I also agree that it seems to be something in Solome's blood or at least Fey blood is involved somewhere.

 

[greyshark]

I think Russel will try and do something to his pet, and Steve will defend it.
Steve will stay the face of the VPN for the new regime.
I also agree that it seems to be something in Solome's blood or at least Fey blood is involved somewhere.

It seems to me that Steve is only there as a replacement for Talbot. If/when Russell goes, Steve will go with him. They haven't even bothered to explain how/when/why Steve was turned, and his character has stayed largely the same as when he was with the Fellowship of the Sun (only real difference being he's switched allegiances).

 

[PhoncipleBone]

It seems to me that Steve is only there as a replacement for Talbot. If/when Russell goes, Steve will go with him. They haven't even bothered to explain how/when/why Steve was turned, and his character has stayed largely the same as when he was with the Fellowship of the Sun (only real difference being he's switched allegiances).

And officially switched sexual preferences. At least publicly.

 

[Zzoram]

Steve is the new Talbot.

I think someone else's earlier prediction that Luna will turn to Steve and kill Russell for taking Emma makes the most sense. Especially since nobody can outright overpower Russell and he won't fall for the sunlight trick again.



Also, the blood of Lilith being fairy blood or at least some altered version of it is the only thing that makes sense. Eric got high from draining a fairy and nothing else has been shown to intoxicate vampires like that but fairy blood.

The question is whether Salome knows what the blood really is and where she got it.

 

[greyshark]

I think someone else's earlier prediction that Luna will turn to Steve and kill Russell for taking Emma makes the most sense. Especially since nobody can outright overpower Russell and he won't fall for the sunlight trick again.

While that would tie things together quite nicely, I think the skinwalker plot device would be a cheap way to end it - I hope that isn't how they resolve things.

Also, the blood of Lilith being fairy blood or at least some altered version of it is the only thing that makes sense. Eric got high from draining a fairy and nothing else has been shown to intoxicate vampires like that but fairy blood.

The question is whether Salome knows what the blood really is and where she got it.

I think Salome either knows where or is herself the source of the blood - will be very interesting to see how they reveal the mystery behind it all.

 

[Zzoram]

I just hope everything does tie together.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Luna being able to shift into other people might play a part in someones falling. Maybe some trickery? She'd have to get a handle on it pretty fast though. Unless that was already explained in a way I missed.

edit: oh it was already mentioned a few posts up. SILLY ME.

 

[Zzoram]

It has to be Russell, he's the most powerful vampire on the show and can only be beaten with trickery.

 

[Takuan]

I did a quick google and I'm seeing the name "Lilith" being associated with

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Queen of the Fairies

. Seems to have Judaic origins, from a very brief glancing at a few of the search results.

 

[greyshark]

It has to be Russell, he's the most powerful vampire on the show and can only be beaten with trickery.

And fairy magic.

 

[KibblesBits]

I do not believe that the blood is fairy blood at all. We have three vampires on the show who happen to be in the Authority at the moment who have had fairy blood to some degree. Bill has had it on the regular with Sookie. Russell had Sookie's blood and Eric has had Sookie's blood and drained a whole fairy.

People point to Eric and his behavior after draining a whole fairy and try to make a connection between the blood in the vial and his past behavior. When Eric drained Claudine he did not hallucinate and go into a blood frenzy. He was acting drunk. There is a major difference between being drunk and having hallucinations.

Second point, Eric had to drain a whole fairy to become inebriated and he was quick to notice that the blood smelled different and was much tastier than normal blood.

Third point, no vampires in the Authority commented on the quality of the blood at all while imbibing.

Finally, if it were Fairy blood, Russell would have drank that whole vial and went out on the town for a night of fun.

So what does this mean for Lilith and the blood that is in the vial?

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The blood is the blood of Lilith. It is actual Lilith blood and by drinking it they are committing Diablerie and becoming blood bound to a vampire that is no longer in corporeal form. Each time they drink the blood they become that much more connected to Lilith as she continues to live on through her blood despite being without a body. Salome has been drinking the blood on the regular *and* possibly feeding it to Nora in an attempt to control her. As Bill bites Salome he sees Lilith because he is becoming blood bound to her and by extension to Salome. Thus writing an easy out for Bill in the future. An event may even occur where one of the females currently on the Authority drinks the whole vial. Thus allowing for the act of Diablerie to overcome who they actually are and leading to a resurrection of Lilith herself.

The only connection the vampires will have with the fairies will be Russell coming after Sookie after Lilith during an imbibing tells him to drain her and go on a murderous rampage, which he was probably want to do anyhow. This will lead to the refugee fairies being forced to play their hand and help Sookie power herself up to defend herself and eventually lead to who Warlow is in relation to Sookie and her parents death which should lead into season 6.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

GOD DAMN IT, BILL.

Fucking Steve Newlin.

 

[saunderez]

I do not believe that the blood is fairy blood at all. We have three vampires on the show who happen to be in the Authority at the moment who have had fairy blood to some degree. Bill has had it on the regular with Sookie. Russell had Sookie's blood and Eric has had Sookie's blood and drained a whole fairy.

Eric is the only person who's had pure fairy blood (Sookie is only a halfcast) and he can't remember it because he was under the necromancers spell. Sookie's blood obviously doesn't have the same properties, it doesn't make vampires drunk like that, it just tastes awesome and lets them daywalk for a bit.

 

[KibblesBits]

Eric is the only person who's had pure fairy blood (Sookie is only a halfcast) and he can't remember it because he was under the necromancers spell. Sookie's blood obviously doesn't have the same properties, it doesn't make vampires drunk like that, it just tastes awesome and lets them daywalk for a bit.

Eric has all his memories from that period of time. It's quite obvious that Sookie doesn't have the same type of blood, which I already took into account with my statement, yet enough of it will at the very least allow for daywalking and she still tastes and smells good.

 

[toastyToast]

Hope that wasn't it for the supernatural murder plot, they figured it out pretty damn quick

As for Lilith, I'm not really seeing the fairy blood argument since Bill, Russel and especially Eric having experience with it. I'm kind of seeing the evil fairies making some sort of magical concoction to mess with the Vampires heads, getting them to turn on each other or make themselves the target of humans. I'm not sure of anyone else on the show capable of that but it can't just be ordinary fairy blood

 

[Cornballer]

Youtube vids from HBO:

- Inside the Episode #57
- Episode #58 Preview *please spoiler tag any discussion*

 

[Death Dealer]

Good, Arlene actually saw the 'smoke monster' herself. Now maybe she'll stfu for once.

Too bad the pigs didn't eat Hoyt.

Yeah I can see Alcide coming back as pack master. The old dude looked like a chump when he told Russel he couldn't let him take Emma.

 

[samus4ever]

Good, Arlene actually saw the 'smoke monster' herself. Now maybe she'll stfu for once.

Too bad the pigs didn't eat Hoyt.

Yeah I can see Alcide coming back as pack master. The old dude looked like a chump when he told Russel he couldn't let him take Emma.

I agree with Hoyt. True Blood needs to lose some characters. They got so much going on this season I can't even keep track.

 

[shanshan310]

Thank God that afrit story is done. I so do not care about Arline or the other waitress she involved. Terry was waaay out of character at the end there. The whole story kinda just got suckier and suckier.

 

[Death Dealer]

I don't think it was out of character. One of them had to die. He wanted a fair fight. The other guy tried to play dirty. Terry had already proven he was capable of murder.

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

I'm going to guess Sookie's

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Great Grandfather or whoever is the lead Fairy is going to kill Russel. Isn't he like 5000 years old or something.

 

[RatskyWatsky]

I guess the show forgot about Andy's romance(ish?) with the fairy.

 

[Death Dealer]

I think it was just a fling. Isn't he going with the other waitress, Arlene's friend, the wicca girl?

 

[RatskyWatsky]

I think it was just a fling. Isn't he going with the other waitress, Arlene's friend, the wicca girl?

Yeah, but it seemed like it would be more than just a forgettable fling. I'm glad it was though, because Andy and Holly make a cute couple.

 

[fernoca]

I guess the show forgot about Andy's romance(ish?) with the fairy.

It was brought againt when they "discovered" the fairy bar.
And one of the summaries for the last 3 episodes mentions

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consequences about the deal between Andy and the fairy.

 

[KibblesBits]

This show really doesn't forget much. It just gets around to stuff at a later date or uses one off stories for character development.

I.E. Kitch Maynard, Hotshot, Hep D, etc...

 

[The Last Wizard]

Man I really like how the music played at the end of the last ep, just felt like a cliff hanger to a series finale. I'm really liking Eric now, dude was really shocked.

 

[GungHo]

I was disappointed that they didn't get much information about Wario and it instead turned into a Sookie in Distress moment with Sherriff Larry sans Darryl and other brother Darryl.

 

[KibblesBits]

I was disappointed that they didn't get much information about Wario and it instead turned into a Sookie in Distress moment with Sherriff Larry sans Darryl and other brother Darryl.

Warlow.

 

[Hex]

I guess the show forgot about Andy's romance(ish?) with the fairy.

No, he brought it up when they were at the fae bar

 

[KibblesBits]

No, he brought it up when they were at the fae bar

He actually had a scene with Maurella there.