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True Detective Season 3 may be passed over for a new project
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No, absolutely not.
Shouldn't a reasonable man infer from these quotes and departure and fucking failure to make a good season as being connected not just to your not watching the season but prefiguring your not watching the season? In a casual sense. I'm saying, do you think that these quotes could've stopped you from watching the season?
AngmarsKing701
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Considering I watched two eps of S2 and passed over the rest of that mess, I can understand why HBO is considering the same for S3
Hero Prinny
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season 2 killed the show 
when they gonna finally greenlight Monster?
when they gonna finally greenlight Monster?
A Serious Man
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I was with season two right up until they killed Stan. It just hurt too much to watch after that.
ZackieChan
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Overheard at HBO corporate:
“These contracts ... signatures all over them.”
“These contracts ... signatures all over them.”
Sweet mercy
These are so much funnier in retrospect when we're not in the midst of painful disbelief.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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The sad but funny thing about Vinceposting is that Vaughn actually put in a great performance but ain't no great performance gonna save that writing.
The Albatross
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I was the biggest mark for season 1 on earth. And season 2 was so unbearably bad. It's one of those things I stuck with too convinced that it might get good based on how good the previous one was. Like Uncharted 3 and 2.
I can't understand how of the hundred people on set including the actors nobody got up to say "what the fuck does this even mean?"
Also was it Aesop?
My favorite from season 2
Lol da fuk
I can't understand how of the hundred people on set including the actors nobody got up to say "what the fuck does this even mean?"
Also was it Aesop?
AgentChris
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Hopefully HBO will move forward with Monster.
ZackieChan
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Yep. It's like blue balls, in your mind. And I've never even had a cavity.
TheOctodad
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True Detective season 1 is one of my all time favorites. I loved each moment of it. Additionally, I pride myself on being able to keep up with complex plot lines and characters.
But season 2 was a mess. I could barely keep up with some of the dialog and characters that were being mentioned. I think it would have been a bit easier if I watched them back to back. But one episodes a week made it really hard to remember who some character was that showed up for a few seconds 3 weeks ago was.
Really disappointing. Season 1 made me hopeful. Season 2 made me just relegate the show to a "mini series" in my head.
The Season 2 intro was so promising too!
But season 2 was a mess. I could barely keep up with some of the dialog and characters that were being mentioned. I think it would have been a bit easier if I watched them back to back. But one episodes a week made it really hard to remember who some character was that showed up for a few seconds 3 weeks ago was.
Really disappointing. Season 1 made me hopeful. Season 2 made me just relegate the show to a "mini series" in my head.
The Season 2 intro was so promising too!
Means what it says. "Don't you think a normal person, seeing how Ossip came, fucked us over, and left, would conclude that he was not just involved with Caspere's death, but that we should have seen it coming?" What, you mean people don't normally talk like that?
The "I'm feeling a little apoplectic myself" bit is probably the single most tone deaf piece of writing in the whole season.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
I just watched season one of True Detective, it was like a really really bloated movie. They could have easily told that story in 2 - 2½ hours, and they didn't do anything with the villain to boot. I've heard the second season was worse than the first, so this isn't that surprising.
FrenchMovieTheme
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season 2 was fucking terrible and season 1 didn't need to exist to have that opinion. i see people saying "well yeah season 2 was bad but of course... it's following up the incredible season 1!" nope, that's not it at all. you can compare true detective season 2 to just about any show ever created and it doesn't compare favorably. i still can't believe how shitty it was
i'd be willing to give season 3 a chance but it'd have a very short leash
i'd be willing to give season 3 a chance but it'd have a very short leash
The pretentious pseudo-intellectual dialogue in S1 prefigured the godawful dialogue vomit in S2.
The Albatross
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The thing with the pseudo-intellectual dialogue of Season 1 is that it was the pseudo-intellectual dialog of one character, and it was always offset by the-everyman Woody Harrelson speaking for the audience saying "what the fuck are you talking about," "Can you please stop," or "I'm not even going to bother justifying this idiocy with a response..." and so it made it more realistic.
This made Rusty a memorable character who you could like because he was the "crazy pseudo-intellectual libertine psycho" who was offset by other normal, flawed people. Seemingly because Rusty became such a popular character the writers of Season 2 decided that every character should be Rusty, so you end up having 3 or 4 characters having ridiculous conversations where they one-up each other in convoluted bull shit, and the only person sitting there asking "What does this even mean!?" is the viewer. In S1, the viewer had an ally in Woody Harrelson.
It's sort of a straight man routine, a two-man gag. In the two-man gag, you have the off-the-wall crazy person who provides the comedy, but that's only funny because you have the straight man who the audience identifies with. Jerry Seinfeld and Kramer, Cousin Larry and Balke Bartokomous, Jim Halpert and Dwight Shrute. Dwight, Balke, and Kramer are all more memorable than the straight man, but you need the straight man there to ground the bit in some reality. Occasionally the straight man goes off the wall as well, and then the audience really gets drawn in because it's special... Woody Harrelson only believes Rusty's bull shit in the final episodes, or final moments of the show, and it becomes a powerful moment because you, the viewer, are empathizing with Rusty's bull shit. If they did this in every scene, if Woody gave into Rust in every scene and treated his Nietschean-college-student ramblings as legitimate, useful thoughts, then Rust would come off as a masturbatory character for the writers... Which is exactly how Vince Vaughan (and his wife) come off for all of Season 2, because there's nobody there to speak for the viewer saying "WHY ARE YOU SO WEIRD, NOBODY TALKS LIKE THIS."
I actually think season 1 was good. It made mistakes in the middle episodes and had some weak tie-ins and cheap thrills, but it was a good show. Season 2... my god. Like others have said it was simply terrible, even if it wasn't the sequel to season 1 it was stand-alone a horrible show. I'm glad that there's mostly a consensus about this.
water_wendi
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Wait.. the show has four main characters?
Puck Beaverton
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Fukunaga was the reason the season 1 was good and no it isn't just because of the tracking shot.
But Rust was right and is our prophet.
This is where I am at as well. The first 5 or 6 episodes of season 1 were great television but the last episode or two fell a bit flat outside of McConaughey's acting.
Discotheque
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yeah that guy is 100, i've liked everything he has done.
anyways i want a true detective season 3. season 2 was boring as shit but as it went on i actually enjoyed the ridiculousness of it all. vaughn surprisingly carried the later episodes. the hokey dialogue became natural to him.
I've only seen the first season and according to this news I guess I should just leave it at that.
Man I've been looking forward to this show like over a year or sth. when it was announced.
Man I've been looking forward to this show like over a year or sth. when it was announced.
DontBeThatGuy
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Booooooo. Season 1 was fantastic television, and failing to deliver the second time around doesn't mean all opportunity is lost. We've seen plenty of shows and creators have their ups and downs, so I would at least like to see one more go at it. (and I see Woody Harrelson being stupid underrated in here)
Discotheque
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yeah mcconaughey was awesome and obviously the big crowd-favorite but woody harrelson was just as good in that season.
StopMakingSense
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I think in retrospect I do like Harrelson more in S1.
And no Matthew McConaughey to make it all work.
plasmawave
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My favorite from season 2
Lol da fuk
Is this Latin?
See, I didn't mind that at all and even though a lot of it was great.
That's still one of my favorite lines in any show ever.
Season 2, however, felt like it was making fun of Rust in season 1 by dialing everything up 11. I was Pizzaman at his most pretentious.
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Not an original complaint by any means but he really did fuck up by making every goddamn character into a Rust. Even in the clip that I posted, Marty is asking him to stop saying weird shit all the time. Why did Pizzaman think it was a good idea to have everyone speak like Rust? Season 2 needed more regular type dudes...with big ass dicks.
Airola
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Yeah. But I think S2 managed to be more interesting than S1.
In my opinion S1 already had lots of that exact same stuff what people criticized S2 for. S1 was one of the biggest disappointments ever. S2 at least had something going on, even with the corniness brought to the max.
Discotheque
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He also wrote the script for the Magnificent Seven remake so we'll see if he can handle a more conventional project and how the dialogue fares in that
Chuckie
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My favorite from season 2
Lol da fuk
This was the exact moment my wife (English is not our first language) asked: "What does he mean?"
And I had to answer: "I have no fucking idea"
Right. I suppose how that turns out will be crucial in deciding whether Pizzaman can still deliver or if TD S1 was an anomaly (or its successes were owed more to Fukunaga). The only other writing credits Pizza's got outside of TD is the finale for The Killing season 1 and that was fairly middling.
ZackieChan
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Middling? It was one of the worst and most disappointing finales I've seen. Probably not his fault, though.
I was being generous, yeah. It's not good.
johancruijff
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TheChewyWaffles
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I'm apoplectic.
It's a shame. The snowball of public sentiment just started rolling and it just became the thing people did. Gather online and have fun shitting on something.
Season 2 has plenty of problems, but no way did it deserve the volume of shit slung its way. And I can certainly handle when I dig something while being in the minority, but when the backlash is fervently snarky and mocking, it still manages to poison the experience for me.
Season 2 has plenty of problems, but no way did it deserve the volume of shit slung its way. And I can certainly handle when I dig something while being in the minority, but when the backlash is fervently snarky and mocking, it still manages to poison the experience for me.
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