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Facism said:
tbh i want to hear what Kim Kardashian has to say about this UFO!!!
Oh shit! I think you just gave me the answer to this mystery! It all makes sense now, the reason the aliens were hovering over Turkey was because they wanted to pick up the new April issue of Cosmo with Kardashian on the cover.
They probably never gave the two shits about us inferior, dull, stupid humanoids on earth until they noticed one of us with the perfect ass in the entire universe. They came down b/c they wanted to discover more of the great mysteries of the perfect ass in the universe: found in the latest issue of the Turkish Cosmopolitan (sex) magazine.
 
EricHasNoPull said:
Oh shit! I think you just gave me the answer to this mystery! It all makes sense now, the reason the aliens were hovering over Turkey was because they wanted to pick up the new April issue of Cosmo with Kardashian on the cover.
They probably never gave the two shits about us inferior, dull, stupid humanoids on earth until they noticed one of us with the perfect ass in the entire universe. They came down b/c they wanted to discover more of the great mysteries of the perfect ass in the universe: found in the latest issue of the Turkish Cosmopolitan (sex) magazine.

Increase in alien abduction of Armenian women incoming, once they've got a taste, they need more.
 
Kim Cardassian will vehemently deny the existance of extra-terrestrials and promptly return back to Terok Nor... I mean... L.A.
 
Facism said:
Increase in alien abduction of Armenian women incoming, once they've got a taste, they need more.
Haha I like this guy!

Take Kim, I don't care, but leave all the other Armenian beauties to us Earthlings.
 
MisterAnderson said:
While I'm not the most educated person when it comes to thermal dynamics and physics, I don't think that the possibility is too far-fetched that aliens could have technology to cloak their signature from our radar/thermal sensors/etc. If they have the technology to reach our planet, which is completely unfeasible with everything we know regarding physics (unless they are from our solar system or something, which is extremely unlikely) then their technology is far fucking ahead of ours.


It's not a matter of technology, it's physical limitations. All mechanical work and generation of energy must be less than 100% efficient, otherwise two principles of thermodynamics are violated, and you could create a First or Second order perpetual motion machine (greater than 100% means energy from nowhere, which violates Conservation of Energy; 100% efficient conversion of work into energy violates Entropy).

Now at first this may seem confusing - "why does this imply you can't hide thermal emissions"? The answer is that objects that exist in space radiate heat in the form of IR light outwards at all time. This cannot be stopped (without violating thermodynamics), and the higher the temperature, the more brightly it radiates. This is also the only method of cooling in space, since there is no atmosphere with which convection or conduction may take place. You cannot simply refrigerate the front of your ship and redirect the heat to the back, because refrigeration requires energy to perform, and thanks to our friend thermodynamics, this means you are creating heat, not getting rid of it. Any heat you pump to the back quickly conducts back to the front of the ship because temperature moves along heat gradients, and you now have a bright spot on your hull where you had to fire the reactor up. And if you even think about firing up your main drive in flight, we can spot you from the other side of the solar system (or further, depending on how powerful it is).

A detailed breakdown with equations and all can be found at the ever-valuable Atomic Rockets website.
 
Myke Greywolf said:
It's a great video, if legitimate... but this is not the one that is going to convince anyone who doesn't already believe it, I think.

Then again, I think a lot of people wouldn't be convinced even if a UFO landed on their lawn in broad daylight.
Yeah well, first get me some convincing footage of a UFO parked in someone's backyard during broad daylight then we'll talk about believing.

Why do aliens always come to Earth on Batman's shift? Are they that much of a fan of the caped crusader?

Edit: After reading the post above mine, I guess this thread isn't a total waste of time, that's some good stuff on thermal dynamics, energy and traveling in space. Thanks.
 
EricHasNoPull said:
Yeah well, first get me some convincing footage of a UFO parked in someone's backyard during broad daylight then we'll talk about believing.

Why do aliens always come to Earth on Batman's shift? Are they that much of a fan of the caped crusader?

They're hiding from us by flying around at night time, but they usually forget to turn the lights off on their ship (because they're quite forgetful).
 
SalsaShark said:
seriously what are the odds of actual aliens looking like the ones in movies ?

The people that make movies have studied Ufology and the history of close encounters of the third kind and often attempt to depict them in a believable manner.
 
That's actually one puzzling thing about UFO videos:

Why hasn't someone built a real UFO and filmed it? Like a small model flying around. And then a big model on the ground.

Basically the alien equivalent of the Patterson bigfoot film (which is clearly either a Bigfoot or a guy in a suit)


But seriously, it's not easy to film stuff like this. I had a bear in my yard at night a few years ago. Did I get pictures? No. And then when I went out hunting for it the next night (because it ate one of my cats), I couldn't find it. It was there. I could find signs of it.

(Then of course, 3 years later, I thought it came back. Got my rifle and shined the light on it...it was a cow that had wandered off from my neighbors)


Death Dealer said:
The people that make movies have studied Ufology and the history of close encounters of the third kind and often attempt to depict them in a believable manner.

Sort of. If you read UFO reports, there are basically 4 types: Humans (aka the Space Brothers), the pale bald guys with big eyes (aka Greys), surly little and hairy dwarfs, and weird stuff (which can range from robots to just about anything you can imagine).

Usually only the first two make it into the movies.
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
They're hiding from us by flying around at night time, but they usually forget to turn the lights off on their ship (because they're quite forgetful).


I don't think they are always necessarily hiding. That's a false premise.

But on the topic of radiant heat, have you seen the infamous Mexican infrared UFO video ?
Apparently many UFO heat signatures have been captured. When the UFO was sighted over Tehran in 1976, a US DSP satellite designed to detect the heat signature from an ICBM launch recorded the UFO. It was supposedly so bright, the witnesses could see it from 60 miles away.
 
Death Dealer said:
I don't think they are always necessarily hiding. That's a false premise.

But on the topic of radiant heat, have you seen the infamous Mexican infrared UFO video ?
Apparently many UFO heat signatures have been captured. When the UFO was sighted over Tehran in 1976, a US DSP satellite designed to detect the heat signature from an ICBM launch recorded the UFO. It was supposedly so bright, the witnesses could see it from 60 miles away.

One thing about the Mexican video that annoys me is that there has been no follow-up recording of the area. This is because the prevailing sceptical position is that the crew recorded the flames of an oil refinery - but they've taken the route many times before and used the same equipment and this was the first time they saw such lights so it'd be unreasonable to suggest it was an oil refinery. The only way to resolve that debate is to fly again over the same route using the same equipment
 
Holy mother of three, I live in Kumburgaz, Turkey... no kidding. it's a small town 50km west of Istanbul. But I had no idea of this footage, at least one of my friends would know it if it was a significant news in local news -let alone in Turkey- thus I would hear about it.
 
ThoseDeafMutes said:
It's not a matter of technology, it's physical limitations. All mechanical work and generation of energy must be less than 100% efficient, otherwise two principles of thermodynamics are violated, and you could create a First or Second order perpetual motion machine (greater than 100% means energy from nowhere, which violates Conservation of Energy; 100% efficient conversion of work into energy violates Entropy).

Now at first this may seem confusing - "why does this imply you can't hide thermal emissions"? The answer is that objects that exist in space radiate heat in the form of IR light outwards at all time. This cannot be stopped (without violating thermodynamics), and the higher the temperature, the more brightly it radiates. This is also the only method of cooling in space, since there is no atmosphere with which convection or conduction may take place. You cannot simply refrigerate the front of your ship and redirect the heat to the back, because refrigeration requires energy to perform, and thanks to our friend thermodynamics, this means you are creating heat, not getting rid of it. Any heat you pump to the back quickly conducts back to the front of the ship because temperature moves along heat gradients, and you now have a bright spot on your hull where you had to fire the reactor up. And if you even think about firing up your main drive in flight, we can spot you from the other side of the solar system (or further, depending on how powerful it is).

A detailed breakdown with equations and all can be found at the ever-valuable Atomic Rockets website.

They use a zero point energy singularity to sink all their excess heat. This system produces Cherenkov radiation that they collect and use as a power source. It is a very clever way of sidestepping the laws of thermodynamics and they obviously have their hyper-dimensional physics well sorted.

Amir0x said:
oh well if Turkey's greatest scientists couldn't debunk it then surely it must be aliens

Nice way to troll Turkey.
 
Meus Renaissance said:
One thing about the Mexican video that annoys me is that there has been no follow-up recording of the area. This is because the prevailing sceptical position is that the crew recorded the flames of an oil refinery - but they've taken the route many times before and used the same equipment and this was the first time they saw such lights so it'd be unreasonable to suggest it was an oil refinery. The only way to resolve that debate is to fly again over the same route using the same equipment


Exactly. The Mexican Air Force didn't think it was lights from sea based oil platforms.

If that's all it was, it should be a simple matter to recreate a similar looking video.
 
I don't doubt that there's alien life on other planets. What I doubt and HATE are idiots trying to prove there are aliens by showing the public fake footage and increasing public skepticism after it's been debunked.
 
spiderman123 said:
I don't doubt that there's alien life on other planets. What I doubt and HATE are idiots trying to prove there are aliens by showing the public fake footage and increasing public skepticism after it's been debunked.

yeah that's why even though believing life is out there is totally legitimate every sane person from here to Timbuktu loves to put distance between themselves and the UFO crazies. This shit is always so laughably fake it makes my head hurt. We live in the year 2010 2011 and still the best footage anyone can ever get is blurry, barely coherent crap that is enhanced through thirty filters until it sorta kinda looks like their wet dream of gray aliens.

Fucking hell this world has a lot of fucking dumb people in it.
 
Amir0x said:
yeah that's why even though believing life is out there is totally legitimate every sane person from here to Timbuktu loves to put distance between themselves and the UFO crazies. This shit is always so laughably fake it makes my head hurt. We live in the year 2010 and still the best footage anyone can ever get is blurry, barely coherent crap that is enhanced through thirty filters until it sorta kinda looks like their wet dream of gray aliens.

Fucking hell this world has a lot of fucking dumb people in it.

I don't blame people for wanting to believe this stuff, lets face it, the day we could actually ever prove something like this would be pretty awesome to see, but I feel like some peoples blind ambition to believe any video they see without any form of skepticism is just wrong.

Then they get defensive about it, like skeptics are trying to be assholes, when really they're trying to sort through the BS to find the facts..
 
Amir0x said:
yeah that's why even though believing life is out there is totally legitimate every sane person from here to Timbuktu loves to put distance between themselves and the UFO crazies. This shit is always so laughably fake it makes my head hurt. We live in the year 2010 2011 and still the best footage anyone can ever get is blurry, barely coherent crap that is enhanced through thirty filters until it sorta kinda looks like their wet dream of gray aliens.

Fucking hell this world has a lot of fucking dumb people in it.

20 years from now when we have cameras capable of recording pixels from the past and future and present all at the same time at a resolution able to pick out an astronaut standing on the moon from your backyard there will still be blurry ass UFO footage getting 'Ufologists' all excited.

I can't wait, personally.
 
Revenant said:
I don't blame people for wanting to believe this stuff, lets face it, the day we could actually ever prove something like this would be pretty awesome to see, but I feel like some peoples blind ambition to believe any video they see without any form of skepticism is just wrong.

Then they get defensive about it, like skeptics are trying to be assholes, when really they're trying to sort through the BS to find the facts..

Look I would love to find out that aliens have been visiting us every day for the last millennium but the reality is there is simply no proof whatsoever that this is the case. None. Any "incident" or "footage" a UFO crazy has ever introduced as evidence has been debunked, laughably blurry or incoherent, misinterpreted or easily explained away by other natural phenomenon.

If UFO's have been visiting us for all these years in as consistent a fashion as UFO crazies want us to believe, there would be at least one fucking clear photo at least. Really, there should be more evidence than just a clear photo, but that'd at least be a goddamn start to this charade.

Skeptics are assholes I believe because UFO crazies are so unbelievably ignorant it's actually painful to believe you're in the same species.
 
Morn said:

Is this for real or a joke? The drawings are hilariously stupid

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Vagabundo said:
Nice way to troll "Turkey's greatest scientists."
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Oh man! @ Jeff's post. I request a GAF photoshop contest, we have to use that very same blurry, green pixelated image and trace over our own image of aliens on it.

We vote on the best, most creative ones.
 
Amir0x said:
Look I would love to find out that aliens have been visiting us every day for the last millennium but the reality is there is simply no proof whatsoever that this is the case. None. Any "incident" or "footage" a UFO crazy has ever introduced as evidence has been debunked, laughably blurry or incoherent, misinterpreted or easily explained away by other natural phenomenon.

If UFO's have been visiting us for all these years in as consistent a fashion as UFO crazies want us to believe, there would be at least one fucking clear photo at least. Really, there should be more evidence than just a clear photo, but that'd at least be a goddamn start to this charade.

Skeptics are assholes I believe because UFO crazies are so unbelievably ignorant it's actually painful to believe you're in the same species.

Are there any incidents or 'stories' you have found interesting? For example,

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=424453
 
Pssh, this is nothing. If you want to see clearer footage google "Alien Abduction: Incident at Lake County". The whole documentary is on google video. Probably the single greatest piece of evidence ever.
 
EricHasNoPull said:
Fixed


Oh man! @ Jeff's post. I request a GAF photoshop contest, we have to use that very same blurry, green pixelated image and trace over our own image of aliens on it.

We vote on the best, most creative ones.

It's a game you can't win, the author already did

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Wow if this is real!

I just wish they would hurry up and show themselves properly. At the moment anything to do with alien sightings is just passed up as bull shit.

In my opinion there is more evidence to believe they do exist than not. It's funny (and sad) that more people believe in a mystical sky daddy that created everything with no evidence, than aliens.
 
Amir0x said:
Look I would love to find out that aliens have been visiting us every day for the last millennium but the reality is there is simply no proof whatsoever that this is the case. None. Any "incident" or "footage" a UFO crazy has ever introduced as evidence has been debunked, laughably blurry or incoherent, misinterpreted or easily explained away by other natural phenomenon.

If UFO's have been visiting us for all these years in as consistent a fashion as UFO crazies want us to believe, there would be at least one fucking clear photo at least. Really, there should be more evidence than just a clear photo, but that'd at least be a goddamn start to this charade.

Skeptics are assholes I believe because UFO crazies are so unbelievably ignorant it's actually painful to believe you're in the same species.


I think you answered our question, they are not our species and are in fact the aliens!


but I agree with you. I don't get why people tout blurry video and get pouty when people don't see the "truth" like they do in grainy film.
 
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