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TV gaming vs monitor gaming
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RoadHazard
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TV of course. I just don't get that immersion on a monitor, it makes games feel "small".
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Those features have zero effect on playing games though. And smart TVs are pretty cool when done right, just don't buy a slow piece of shit.
rofif
Banned
42 was not available when I was getting oled. Took me 2-3 days to get used to 48". 42 would be better but these panels are worse.
nice. my c1 does 800-850 max. I was under the impressions smaller oleds are also dimmer. But maybe they have custom heatsink in tehre
Hudo
Gold Member
They affect the user experience in my opinion. But I realize that's mostly me. I just want a device that gives me pictures in good quality and nothing else. And I have yet to see a smart tv implementation that isn't clunky/janky in some way. But obviously these things sell, otherwise manufacturers wouldn't shit out so many of them.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I enjoy my 4k 65" tv more than any pc monitor I've ever had.
rofif
Banned
But steam link maxes out only at 1080p60.
(it's so fucking good I used one for years, no lag at all)
OverHeat
« generous god »
No HDRDisplay master race represent
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
So do my monitors.
Johnny2Bad
Member
TV but don't ask me, I'm still using a 50" LG plasma that I bought in 2010. That bastard just won't die.
yansolo
Member
went from a 32inch g-sync monitor to a 75inch TCL, I will admit that i do personally feel more connected to what im playing with a monitor because of the less space between, but you cant beat the comfort of a couch + tv setup. It also makes it easier to play something with friends instead of sitting around a desk.
REDRZA MWS
Member
I've onlly owned LG OLED since E7P, then a C8, and GX, never once in all these years has there even been a scare as far as burn in.
Kuranghi
Member
Television for me, I used a disgusting filthy horrible smearing VA panel 65" TV with amazing image quality and HDR, can never go back to IPS now.
Regarding monitor input lag vs modern TVs:
It is lower in most cases, but is a few milliseconds really worth losing out on all that image quality? If its muliplayer/FG then obviously input lag is king, but for things like the AAA games we're talking a monitor does native res (usually 1440p) @4.4ms at best according to rtings and more than a C2 OLED at worst (C2 is 8-9ms at 4K@120hz). Monitors have higher refresh rates than 120hz ofc, which will lower it to 1.7-5ms but who is actually rendering AAA games at 1080p@360hz, seems maybe 240hz at 1440p is a better balance of IQ to responsive/motion smoothness.
The input lag being lower than the frametime (8.33ms for 120hz and 4.16ms for 240hz) also means its dependant on how the engine processes input whether it will have to wait for the next refresh/input processing interval anyway, so your input could reach the engine faster because the reacted faster with the monitor but it won't actually happen right then anyway. I'm sure it makes a difference on paper but when its less than 5 milliseconds surely all the other lag on top of it (engine lag, controller lag, etc) completely drown out that advantage.
Response time is also better on OLED than IPS so if its not an OLED monitor then you're not going to be reacting as fast anyway.
Regarding monitor input lag vs modern TVs:
It is lower in most cases, but is a few milliseconds really worth losing out on all that image quality? If its muliplayer/FG then obviously input lag is king, but for things like the AAA games we're talking a monitor does native res (usually 1440p) @4.4ms at best according to rtings and more than a C2 OLED at worst (C2 is 8-9ms at 4K@120hz). Monitors have higher refresh rates than 120hz ofc, which will lower it to 1.7-5ms but who is actually rendering AAA games at 1080p@360hz, seems maybe 240hz at 1440p is a better balance of IQ to responsive/motion smoothness.
The input lag being lower than the frametime (8.33ms for 120hz and 4.16ms for 240hz) also means its dependant on how the engine processes input whether it will have to wait for the next refresh/input processing interval anyway, so your input could reach the engine faster because the reacted faster with the monitor but it won't actually happen right then anyway. I'm sure it makes a difference on paper but when its less than 5 milliseconds surely all the other lag on top of it (engine lag, controller lag, etc) completely drown out that advantage.
Response time is also better on OLED than IPS so if its not an OLED monitor then you're not going to be reacting as fast anyway.
small_law
Member
All I want is a dumb screen. Using a pointer remote to navigate a shitty UI powered by a weak, cheap CPU bogged down by apps I can't delete is how they'll torture me in hell.
ZVWQP-9B8TM-VH9CT
Member
desk gaming is superior, couch is for watching movies, it makes me feel uncomfortable when I need to move hands/fingers while playing.
hououinkyouma00
Member
So you play on your monitor without moving your hands or fingers? Just press W and that's it I guess.
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twilo99
Member
Depends on the game.
Competitive FPS - fast monitor
RPG - monitor
RTS - monitor
MOBA - monitor
Flight simulator- monitor
For me monitor means mouse/keyboard on a desk.
Sports games, FIFA etc. - TV
Driving games - TV
Platformers - TV
3rd Person adventure - TV
TV = couch + controller
Competitive FPS - fast monitor
RPG - monitor
RTS - monitor
MOBA - monitor
Flight simulator- monitor
For me monitor means mouse/keyboard on a desk.
Sports games, FIFA etc. - TV
Driving games - TV
Platformers - TV
3rd Person adventure - TV
TV = couch + controller
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Soltype
Member
I'm literally trying to figure out what to do about this same situation, been playing baldur's gate 3 on my TV because it's an OLED and I want the HDR. Ideally I would like and OLED monitor, but don't want to deal with the burning, but the other HDR solutions aren't as good. Hoping one day we can get either a solution to burn in or something that's comparable to OLED without the risks.
CoreyFlawless
Member
I love my plasma. Why I hadn't bought an oled yet
Zuzu
Gold Member
I play on both an LG C1 OLED (you can actually see it a bit in the background of my profile pic) and an LG Ultragear 24GN600. The TV is fantastic and the monitor is good. If I could only have one it would definitely be the TV but the monitor is good as well. The monitor is better for mouse & keyboard gaming, for a streaming setup and I agree that sometimes when it comes to some games like multiplayer games I feel a bit more 'locked in' when playing on it.
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CuteFaceJay
Member
Prolly just didn't have TV in game mode.
Shadowstar39
Member
I say both... depending on what you are playing.
I say this as someone who has a wide tent in what I like. Everything from Turnbased RPG - Action RPG - 3rd person action game - fighters - fps - stealth - turn based strategy -rts - grand strategy - card games -puzzle games, survival horror, driving, space games, etc.....
Some genres are better on a certian screens.
Now as for screens themselves, I can't really comment on new stuff. I am still sporting a 2020s era 1080p 27" 144hz monitor for my pc and a 2013 1080p tv with all the inputs that modern tvs don't have. To me its hard to throw away something that still works fine. Why get rid of a perfectly good tv? It also has 4 hdmi, vga, composite, component, svideo, usb and rf, how many new tvs have that many connections? Most just have 2-3 hdmi and that's it. I still sometimes play the ps2 and older retro consoles or mini-consoles. Those need the connections and how would they even look on a 4k display? Maybe good, maybe not, I'll try it when the tv breaks.
What am I missing not going to 4k? This isn't like going from sd - to hd where it was night and day clarity.
I say this as someone who has a wide tent in what I like. Everything from Turnbased RPG - Action RPG - 3rd person action game - fighters - fps - stealth - turn based strategy -rts - grand strategy - card games -puzzle games, survival horror, driving, space games, etc.....
Some genres are better on a certian screens.
Now as for screens themselves, I can't really comment on new stuff. I am still sporting a 2020s era 1080p 27" 144hz monitor for my pc and a 2013 1080p tv with all the inputs that modern tvs don't have. To me its hard to throw away something that still works fine. Why get rid of a perfectly good tv? It also has 4 hdmi, vga, composite, component, svideo, usb and rf, how many new tvs have that many connections? Most just have 2-3 hdmi and that's it. I still sometimes play the ps2 and older retro consoles or mini-consoles. Those need the connections and how would they even look on a 4k display? Maybe good, maybe not, I'll try it when the tv breaks.
What am I missing not going to 4k? This isn't like going from sd - to hd where it was night and day clarity.
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Shadowstar39
Member
Yeah this is a problem for me. I work from home in my office. I have my gaming pc and monitor next to my work laptop/dock and 3 monitors, on a large "L" desk. So I can browse the net or play a turn based game on a slow time at work. All I do is turn a quarter turn and I am at my gaming pc. If I turn around from there a half turn I have my amps and guitars.... It's amazing working from home!
I can't imagine playing games at the pc exclusively anymore. When I was in my twenties (im in my 40s), I worked construction, back then I had no problem playing something like diablo 2 , baldurs gate, quake 3, etc... for hours on the pc screen. Nowadays yeah its the tv unless its a turnbased or building game that I can pause and play.
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Battlesmurf
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I'm hoping some really killer 32" monitors pop out this year. I tried one earlier this year that had some defects (pixels bright, splotchy backlight- super noticable). Eventually I want to switch between XBX and PC- but keep the same speakers. Tricky!