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The Sopranos. Yeah, nobody cares much about any of the storylines that happened after Season 3. There were some good stories, but they were sharply outnumbered by bad or dull stories.

Why do people say the The Office should have ended when Steve Carell left? It was past its prime by that point anyway. Michael Scott had already become an unbelievable and unlikeable Jackass Homer Simpson type character. The show was arguably better off without him, though still treading water.

 

[The Cowboy]

buffy. should have ended with season 5 even though its a completely shit ending..

This just doesn't compute with me, the end of season 5 for me it was easily the best season finale of all Buffy's and Angel's combined, everything in it worked perfectly.

As for Buffy going on to long, again I disagree. Sure there was a few duff episodes in 6 and 7 (as in each season), but there was easily a load more good than bad, and without 6 we wouldn't have "once more with feeling" and without 7 we wouldn't have James Marsters finest performance in "beneath you".

Buffy for me went on exactly how long it should have and left on a very good note in the end (as for Angel, that needed maybe 1 or 2 more seasons).

 

[Persona7]

Dexter and Adventure Time.

 

[Trent Strong]

Mad Men. Possibly the most nuanced one note show on television. I personally felt like the quality peaked around season three and it's been a slow descent sense then. Maybe Weiner is so meta that the show is mirroring Don Draper's fall. That's what obsessive, blind fans would have you to believe, anyway.

I agree completely, and yet everyone still seems to love Mad Men as much as ever. The GAF Mad Men thread is as positive about the show as it ever was. It's baffling.

 

[EatChildren]

Dexter somewhat jumped the shark when

Spoiler

Rita died

. It was excellent framework to end his character arc, but they instead opted to use it as a cliffhanger and platform for tired storytelling.

 

[Discotheque]

I agree completely, and yet everyone still seems to love Mad Men as much as ever. The GAF Mad Men thread is as positive about the show as it ever was. It's baffling.

Plot progression feels like it's been at a halt since season 3 (until this seasons finale which was a big change for don)

But the quality of writing is still good so I've been enjoying it

But yeah it peaked a little while ago

Only show which has been completely consistent from start to finish for me has been sopranos

 

[Mighty Chin]

I agree completely, and yet everyone still seems to love Mad Men as much as ever. The GAF Mad Men thread is as positive about the show as it ever was. It's baffling.

Mad Men isn't a bad show. It's a one note show. Acted well but jeez...one note.

Every season Don seems to a Hallucination. A crisis of conscience that he never learns from. It's kinda pathetic.

 

[Trent Strong]

Plot progression feels like it's been at a halt since season 3 (until this seasons finale which was a big change for don)

But the quality of writing is still good so I've been enjoying it

But yeah it peaked a little while ago

Only show which has been completely consistent from start to finish for me has been sopranos

Yeah, the season finale was a pretty big shake-up. Next season might actually be exciting again plot wise.

 

[Davey Cakes]

Mad Men is a really great show and hasn't really lost steam. I think ending it at 7 seasons will be perfect.

I don't gush over it like many people in the Official Thread but I still really enjoy it for the characters.

Though I will say that, at times it feels like they're going through the motions with Don.

 

[strobogo]

Every US show is pretty accurate. Even the greatest of our shows goes on too far and gets weird and bad. Off hand I can't even think of any shows that weren't prematurely cancelled that went more than 3 seasons that didn't go off the rails and need mercy killing.

 

[MrCunningham]

The Simpsons. It peaked sound seasons 8 to 9-ish and has never been able to hit those high notes since then.

 

[kobashi100]

I see the point of the thread but let me just say that its easy to say with the benefit of hindsight that show x or y should have ended after season 1 or season 2 etc etc.

I mean Heroes for example had a storming season 1. How many people @ the time would have send end it.

Same with prison break. Fck after season 1 ended, people were going crazy for the start of season 2.

Anyway sorry for the mini rant.. forget i said anything lol

But yeah my list would be:
US Office
Two and a half men
Prison break after season 2
Only fools and horses (should have ended when Del become a millionaire, hell even before then to be honest)
Heroes after season 2

 

[Woffls]

Lost - Had long term potential but was poorly handled.
Heroes - It's like they were expecting 12 eps then got confused.
Sopranos - Same themes, different characters I don't care about.
Scrubs - ....
X-Files - Doggett and whatserface weren't Mulder and Scully sooo... yeah.
Chuck - Why am I watching The OC, where are the spies?
The OC - After the thing happened it just didn't work as a show.
Weeds - I don't remember which season I got to, and I don't care.

 

[Akahige]

Most shows that go past the 4th season start sucking bad

 

[Enron]

Law and Order SVU.

 

[Akahige]

Homeland.

yup should have been a one off series

 

[Zero315]

Misfits REALLY should have just ended when Robert Sheehan decided not to return.

Nah, despite Rudy trying his hardest to ruin season three it was still pretty good. Should've ended with the finale of season three though, with the closing of the

Spoiler

Simon/Alisha time jumping

storyline.

The thing that ruined that series for me though was

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the power swap. The powers in season three were really lame.

 

[Jest Chillin]

The Simpsons
The Office
Supernatural
Buffy
ER


I'm couldn't disagree more with people saying Scrubs. S7 was a drop in quality but not horrible. S8 was amazing with one of the best finales in modern TV. S9 was never supposed to be a part of Scrubs and was actually supposed to be a spin off but even considering that it's really only 1 season too long. Considering this is supposed to be about "far too long" it doesn't really qualify imo.

Nah, despite Rudy trying his hardest to ruin season three it was still pretty good. Should've ended with the finale of season three though, with the closing of the

Spoiler

Simon/Alisha time jumping

storyline.

The thing that ruined that series for me though was

Spoiler

the power swap. The powers in season three were really lame.

Eh.. along with Scrubs I don't really think Misfits qualifies as "far too long" but it did go too long. I don't think it's because of Sheehan leaving but the writers just kind of being bankrupt on ideas.

 

[strobogo]

Season 7 of Scrubs was awful. The musical was the only good episode that season. It was wayyy too dark and serious for the show. I mean, it always had some serious moments, but the whole season with the postpartum thing was rough to get through.

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

Dexter's problems weren't that it went on too long, it's problems were that it's writers would constantly shit the bed, be afraid to take risks, and would have great premises that they couldn't execute well.

they were afraid to take risks because they were dragging it out. Season 5 finale is the perfect example...

Spoiler

can't let Deb know the truth yet, that would progress the story forward

. God forbid! It's funny too, because in the first book

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Deb found out dex was a killer

. It took them a full six season to get to that point in the show

 

[B.K.]

ER went on way to long. I watched the first seven or eight seasons, but I lost interest in it when they started losing five or six cast members every year and kept introducing new characters every season.

 

[Jest Chillin]

Season 7 of Scrubs was awful. The musical was the only good episode that season. It was wayyy too dark and serious for the show. I mean, it always had some serious moments, but the whole season with the postpartum thing was rough to get through.

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fairy tale episode, Janitor gets a girlfriend, Kelso retires while Cox gets a promotion, Janitor cares about the environment, Janitors newspaper, Rocky 3 freeze frame ending, Ted gets confidence for a change, Turk and Carla play Halo, Colin Hay plays Overkill on the show...

I could go on. There was a ton of good in that season even though it was very real as opposed to the usual mostly comedy with a bit of real. I also think that it handled the real (aka Dark) aspects really well.

 

[PsihoPerihelion]

Most of that right side is just bullshit though. Some of that stuff is really awesome like the N-Sync appearance, and just plain lies in other cases. When You Dish Upon a Star is season 10 for instance. You could make a similar stuff for season 1 tot 10. The Simpsons meet Michael Jackson, The Simpsons meet Dustin Hoffman, George Takei, James Earl Jones, Danny De Vito, ...

And all of those are miles better than the shitty b-list celebrities at the right side (except for Gervais, Landau, Sondheim and Bogdanovich) Those Gaga and Bieber related episodes are some of the worst TV I've seen in my life.

 

[brianjones]

The Sopranos. Yeah, nobody cares much about any of the storylines that happened after Season 3. There were some good stories, but they were sharply outnumbered by bad or dull stories.

wow this thread should have ended after the first page

 

[FYC]

Detective Conan is my favorite show ever but jesus fuck it's like 600+ episodes now

Never gonna fucking catch up

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

Dragon Ball

 

[Shaanyboi]

Most of that right side is just bullshit though. Some of that stuff is really awesome like the N-Sync appearance, and just plain lies in other cases. When You Dish Upon a Star is season 10 for instance. You could make a similar stuff for season 1 tot 10. The Simpsons meet Michael Jackson, The Simpsons meet Dustin Hoffman, George Takei, James Earl Jones, Danny De Vito, ...

Except when James Earl Jones or Danny DeVito showed up in that show, they were playing characters who often looked nothing like the actors. Aside from Michael Jackson (who still has a clever twist on his guest spot), they weren't shoving them at you saying "Look! You like these guys, right?! Isn't it awesome to see them briefly appear on your favorite television show?!" You were in no way required to know or care who they were in real life.

Now? They practically pointing at them to say "HEY! IT'S A CELEBRITY!" They are nothing more than name drops.

 

[webkatt]

Firefly...

 

[ClassyPenguin]

Fox News, CNN.

 

[Discotheque]

wow this thread should have ended after the first page

i've just recently found out about these dorks on the internet who think the sopranos went to shit after the death of

Spoiler

big pussy

. it's weird. people think the show has no purpose after he goes lol

 

[Joni]

Except they didn't, because none of those actors play themselves.

Neither did Jack Black for instance. Both seasons 10 and prior, and season 11 and later had guest stars play themselves and had guest stars not play themselves. The season 24 premiere for instance had Natalie Portman, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Zooey Deschanel and Anne Hathaway none of them playing themselves. The classic Homer at the Bat had 10 famous people just being there being themselves.

There is a lot of reasons to hate 'modern' Simpsons, but that graphic is still completely wrong.

Except when James Earl Jones or Danny DeVito showed up in that show, they were playing characters who often looked nothing like the actors. Aside from Michael Jackson (who still has a clever twist on his guest spot), they weren't shoving them at you saying "Look! You like these guys, right?! Isn't it awesome to see them briefly appear on your favorite television show?!" You were in no way required to know or care who they were in real life.

For instance Kim Basinger, Alec Baldwin, Ron Howard all played themselves in season 10 and prior. Dustin Hoffman appeared as Rain Man, that is close enough to here, a celebrity. That is season 5. Tony Bennett, Larry King, Ringo Starr, Neil Patrick Harris, Joe Mantegna, Aerosmith, Sting, Bob Hope, Tom Jones, Leonard Nimoy, Brooke Shields, Joyce Brothers, ... That is just a part of all the guest stars in season 4 and earlier playing themselves.

 

[Naked Prime]

Cntl-F "Simpsons; good

Supernatural - I still enjoy it but its getting stale. After stopping Arch Angels there is not much else
Fringe - the last season was good, but last half of season 4 was silly
Family Guy - its become something that exist because people just expect it to be there, not because its wanted or entertaining
Bones - a procedural with no character development in the last 3 seasons
Heroes - should have ended with season 1
House M.D. - Its NOT CANCER!!! or House & Cuddy can only carry you a few episodes not 5-6 seasons.
Martin