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[Dali]

I think the point is that the goal should be to cause minimal amount of pain and distress, not to follow specific religious rituals. Would you support halal slaughter if you knew it caused additional pain or distress?

That's what I'm pointing out to you. Someone said halal slaughter was a problem wiht islam. There are conflictng reports on whether or not the method of killing muslims utilize is more painful than the traditional way so how can he claim it's a problem?

And it's not just a ritual the effects of the method of kill are important too. Blood is dirty stuff and a bolt to the brain only further pollutes it and by extension the meat. Halal kills are also supposed to have the animal bleed out more fully.

 

[CorkyFromLifeGoesOn]

This is terrible, but at the same time it was them on the plane and not us. I would like to say I wouldn't mind but given the recent news I honestly don't know how I would feel in that situation.

 

[Crispo]

Isn't what Jews wear really similar to what Muslim scholars wear? Why aren't Jews removed from MIT then?
Other than that, I don't really care. I'm not American, in fact I live in a non-Arab Muslim country but I don't care if they start an Arab-Muslim genocide.

EDIT: I didn't really mean it.

 

[Particle Physicist]

Isn't what Jews wear really similar to what Muslim scholars wear? Why aren't Jews removed from MIT then?
Other than that, I don't really care. I'm not American, in fact I live in a non-Arab Muslim country but I don't care if they start an Arab-Muslim genocide.

Actually, there have been stories of people tackling and getting the authorities involved when some Jews do a prayer or something on board a plane.

 

[Salazar]

Isn't what Jews wear really similar to what Muslim scholars wear? Why aren't Jews removed from MIT then?
Other than that, I don't really care. I'm not American, in fact I live in a non-Arab Muslim country but I don't care if they start an Arab-Muslim genocide.

Are you quite sure this is what you meant to post ?

I mean, I've read some nonsense on GAF today - about the EDL being ideologically respectable and so on - but god damn.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Isn't what Jews wear really similar to what Muslim scholars wear? Why aren't Jews removed from MIT then?
Other than that, I don't really care. I'm not American, in fact I live in a non-Arab Muslim country but I don't care if they start an Arab-Muslim genocide.

wait.


what?

 

[theignoramus]

not really
islam has lots of ugly sides (women's rights, halal slaughter) that deserve to be criticised
gays or black people don't have any negative impact on anyone, islam does

what? the arguments used to attack muslims are the same ones used to attack blacks. laser-like focus on black crime or muslim violence and the contention that such anti-social and violent behaviour is inherent to that group.

 

[Crispo]

Are you quite sure this is what you meant to post ?

I mean, I've read some nonsense on GAF today - about the EDL being ideologically respectable and so on - but god damn.

I didn't support it. I said as an apatheist living in a non-Arab country where 98% of people are non-Arab Muslims, I don't care if they start an Arab genocide.

 

[Salazar]

I didn't support it. I said as an apatheist living in a non-Arab country where 98% of people are non-Arab Muslims, I don't care if they start an Arab genocide.

If you feel that this qualification is markedly less awful than the original post, you are mistaken.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

If you feel that this qualification is markedly less awful than the original post, you are mistaken.

i said "wow" 2 or 3 times.

 

[Riposte]

If he doesn't want to care, then he doesn't want to care. Finding apathy awful is like finding neutrality awful.

 

[Salazar]

If he doesn't want to care, then he doesn't want to care. Finding apathy awful is like finding neutrality awful.

Not remotely so.

Indifference to genocide is a moral fault. Its expression is offensive. To express it in explicit regard to a group of folks is just not tolerable - no matter how ideologically hospitable GAF is and ought to be.

 

[Riposte]

Not remotely so.

Indifference to genocide is a moral fault. Its expression is offensive.

A moral fault...?

 

[BoobPhysics101]

Isn't what Jews wear really similar to what Muslim scholars wear? Why aren't Jews removed from MIT then?
Other than that, I don't really care. I'm not American, in fact I live in a non-Arab Muslim country but I don't care if they start an Arab-Muslim genocide.

You're an idiot, straight up. Not caring about genocide is like saying 'I don't give a fuck about Rwanda or the Holocaust, who cares if mass amounts of people were murdered or get murdered again?'

What a big, controversial bad-ass, posting that behind the anonymity of an online persona. I think it's funny because I know cowards like you would NEVER say anything like that in person to anyone.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

A moral fault...?

new concept to you?

 

[Riposte]

new concept to you?

Doesn't make sense to me. One person's moral flaw is another person's moral truth. For example: being apathetic to what doesn't directly affect you.

I am not sure if "moral fault" means something else.

 

[Salazar]

A moral fault...?

Not to suggest that morality has a rational or objective basis. That's something I don't believe and wouldn't be able to support.

But indifference to genocide is not a sentiment that could be consistent with the sorts of humane reasonableness that are part of what we call sanity. It's deranged.

And if you want a moral relativism to prevail so far on GAF as to incorporate posts like "I don't care if they kill all the Arabs", then you are as cretinous as this Crispo is.

 

[Crispo]

The reason I'm neutral about Arab Genocide is that people mistake my nationality and call my country an "Arab country". Even the high-profile politicians make this mistake. While I'm not an Arab, and I don't speak Arabic. I speak an Indo-European language, and my ancestors are 16/16 Indo-European.
If that's not a good enough reason to not care about Arabs, then what is?

 

[Salazar]

If that's not a good enough reason to not care about Arabs, then what is?

This is disingenuous as fuck. You posted that you didn't care about Arab genocide. The genocide bit isn't something you can neatly dispose of or ignore.

But it is time for the ignore list. You are a troll or a fuckwit.

 

[Lebron]

I'm not surprised by the stupidity of people anymore, as the poster above has demonstrated

 

[jns]

I'm going to use two sides of Occam's Razor. Either the pilot is a racist idiot - fairly likely, but tempered by the fact that this can't be the first time Muslims have gotten on his plane.

But the second side, is the two passengers. They were headed to a place and meeting where this kind of affront would have been fuel for their fire. Is that a coincidence? Not exactly, but it's an irony nonetheless. So while I think the first solution is more likely:

Pilot is asshole.

The second:

Islamic scholars attention whoring for publicity.

Is a distant but conceivable second.

Be easier to judge with a lot more info - other passenger accounts, etc.

Great post and exactly what I was thinking when reading through the article and thread. The level of "Journalism" in today's media when Arabs/Muslims/terrorism is the subject is shocking imo, often pure sensationalism and speculation. These kind of stories which lack any kind of credible information just serve to further increase confusion, and thus prejudices imo.

*stealth I hate today's level of reporting and journalism post, sorry*

 

[Riposte]

And if you want a moral relativism to prevail so far on GAF as to incorporate posts like "I don't care if they kill all the Arabs", then you are as cretinous as this Crispo is.

Well, I guess if we are talking about forum posts, I can understand. Basically if he is apathetic, then he shouldn't post in the first place. A simple "I don't care" after his question about Jewish garb would be enough to get that point across, lol.

 

[mazeedibeedi]

The reason I'm neutral about Arab Genocide is that people mistake my nationality and call my country an "Arab country". Even the high-profile politicians make this mistake. While I'm not an Arab, and I don't speak Arabic. I speak an Indo-European language, and my ancestors are 16/16 Indo-European.
If that's not a good enough reason to not care about Arabs, then what is?

Wow. As an Arab-Muslim I find that really offensive.
/Ignore list

 

[Crispo]

When someone is apathetic, it doesn't necessarily mean that he is supportive of the thing he doesn't care about. If they give me a gun, I will not shoot an Arab, I will shoot myself. But if they give someone else who's standing beside me a gun , I won't stop him from shooting an Arab. I don't know why you guys find it asinine.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

When someone is apathetic, it doesn't necessarily mean that he is supportive of the thing he doesn't care about. If they give me a gun, I will not shoot an Arab, I will shoot myself. But if they give someone else who's standing beside me a gun , I won't stop him from shooting an Arab. I don't know why you guys find it asinine.

 

[DR2K]

When someone is apathetic, it doesn't necessarily mean that he is supportive of the thing he doesn't care about. If they give me a gun, I will not shoot an Arab, I will shoot myself. But if they give someone else who's standing beside me a gun , I won't stop him from shooting an Arab. I don't know why you guys find it asinine.

That's not apathy that's inhumane.

 

[Lebron]

Yeah, it's a sad excuse for a human. Stop quoting it, please.

 

[RustyNails]

When someone is apathetic, it doesn't necessarily mean that he is supportive of the thing he doesn't care about. If they give me a gun, I will not shoot an Arab, I will shoot myself. But if they give someone else who's standing beside me a gun , I won't stop him from shooting an Arab. I don't know why you guys find it asinine.

You are seriously fucked up in the head.

 

[Black Republican]

we need another malcom x it seems

 

[CrazyDude]

When someone is apathetic, it doesn't necessarily mean that he is supportive of the thing he doesn't care about. If they give me a gun, I will not shoot an Arab, I will shoot myself. But if they give someone else who's standing beside me a gun , I won't stop him from shooting an Arab. I don't know why you guys find it asinine.

You are sick.

 

[RustyNails]

But it is time for the ignore list. You are a troll or a fuckwit.

Don't ignore him. Watch him how much depravity he shows before being put away for good by a moderator.

 

[CHEEZMO™]

What in the holy fuck is going on here?

0_o

 

[AlimNassor]

What the hell? That's all kinds of messed up.

 

[Azuran]

When someone is apathetic, it doesn't necessarily mean that he is supportive of the thing he doesn't care about. If they give me a gun, I will not shoot an Arab, I will shoot myself. But if they give someone else who's standing beside me a gun , I won't stop him from shooting an Arab. I don't know why you guys find it asinine.

You're an idiot.

 

[Sutton Dagger]

 

[CHEEZMO™]

I am curious as to where he's from. He's being pretty cagey about it.

 

[Azuran]

I am curious as to where he's from. He's being pretty cagey about it.

Iran. Check his profile.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Iran. Check his profile.

oh wow

 

[jns]

Iran isn't considered an Arab country? learn something new every day, and I didn't have to suppress a minority to find out, sweet.

 

[CHEEZMO™]

Iran. Check his profile.

Wow, cant believe I never thought of doing that. lol

I was thinking either there or Afghanistan.

 

[Songbird]

God damn, Crispo. Stop skirting around and tell us how you really feel.

 

[jamesinclair]

Join Date: 05-03-2011


Perhaps GAF registration should now require some sort of bigot test?

1) Did the Holocaust...

a) Not happen
b) Happen, caused by the jews
c) not happen, faked by the jews
d) Happen, and is one of the most regrettable incidents of human history


2) Is genocide
a) Acceptable in many situations
b) Acceptable in some situations
c) Acceptable to groups I oppose
d) Never acceptable

3) Death to...
a) America
b) The west
c) Muslims
d) The arabs
e) Two or more of the above
f) Nobody

4) Is Zwarte Piet....
a) A harmless tradition
b) Racist
c) Not racist
d) Something for everyone

5) Should you tip....
a) Never
b) Sometimes
c) All the time

And a question about:
Sunni / shiite issues
Gypsies
Transvestites
9/11 conspiracy

That should weed out most issues

 

[theignoramus]

Iran isn't considered an Arab country? learn something new every day, and I didn't have to suppress a minority to find out, sweet.

It is not an Arab country. Indeed, some parts of the Arab world (sunni arab monarchs for instance) view it with open hostility and suspicion.

 

[Crispo]

I wonder what would you think about Arabs if they had killed your uncle which led to your father's addiction to Ritalin?
America invaded Afghanistan because Arabs drove an airplane into WTC. But I can't even hate Arabs for killing my uncle. Sure is equality in this world.

 

[jamesinclair]

I wonder what would you think about Arabs if they had killed your uncle which led to your father's addiction to Ritalin?

If a persian had killed your father, would you hate all persians....and yourself?

 

[CHEEZMO™]

I wonder what would you think about Arabs if they had killed your uncle which led to your father's addiction to Ritalin?
America invaded Afghanistan because Arabs drove an airplane into WTC. But I can't even hate Arabs for killing my uncle. Sure is equality in this world.

A black dude stole my dads CD player. Not saying I'm now apathetic to genocide of them, but allowing a few hundred deaths to pass under the radar is about the right number, eh GAF?


EDIT: it was a Samsung, if that helps.

 

[Lebron]

Generalizations for the win!

 

[jns]

I wonder what would you think about Arabs if they had killed your uncle which led to your father's addiction to Ritalin?
America invaded Afghanistan because Arabs drove an airplane into WTC. But I can't even hate Arabs for killing my uncle. Sure is equality in this world.

I find it strange that you see the men(presumably) that killed your uncle Arab and not just men. I assume this is because we have different views on race/life etc.

ps I think you'll find America invaded Afghanistan because TERRORISTS flew plans into buildings. Pretty wrong to use the word "Arab" when defining a terrorist.

I believe you are part of the problem.

 

[Songbird]

I wonder what would you think about Arabs if they had killed your uncle which led to your father's addiction to Ritalin?
America invaded Afghanistan because Arabs drove an airplane into WTC. But I can't even hate Arabs for killing my uncle. Sure is equality in this world.

Your shitty generalisation fails because I for one do not hate or despise a race for an atrocity committed in the name of radical religion. War in Afghanistan and it's results are for another place, but it is not the race war I assume you're alleging. I find that offensive.

I find it strange that you see the men(presumably) that killed your uncle Arab and not just men. I assume this is because we have different views on race/life etc.

ps I think you'll find America invaded Afghanistan because TERRORISTS flew plans into buildings. Pretty wrong to use the word "Arab" when defining a terrorist.

I believe you are part of the problem.

Once again he is skirting around and refusing to admit that he is a racist.

 

[Crispo]

A black dude stole my dads CD player. Not saying I'm now apathetic to genocide of them, but allowing a few hundred deaths to pass under the radar is about the right number, eh GAF?


EDIT: it was a Samsung, if that helps.

How does stealing a CD Player equal to killing a human being?