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Ubisoft shares rise amid takeover from Google, Amazon and Sony??
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Portugeezer
Member
This is the moment we all realise that we love Ubisoft.
oldergamer
Member
Different ms this time. No Steve ballmer to make bad decisions and the now have a hands off approach. U can keep comparing them to the past, but u don't do the same for sony. The too have lots of studio closures.Whereas Msft have done a bang up job with their studios in the past
Amazon have barely made any effort so far in gaming. Luna changes that, and while I don’t think a major buy out is likely, it’s healthier for Ubisoft to go to a different company.
oldergamer
Member
I doubt ubisoft is for sale. The had some very we ryrich companies back them tokens off hostile takeover by Viveldi. I don see them selling anytime soon.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
This is the moment we are all reminded how little of a shit we give for this company and its IPs.
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Kokoloko85
Member
I dont care about there games tbh. Lets hope Amazon buys it so everyone can cry
Sounds alot like MS fans with Bethesda....
Quotes taken from this thread Before the acquisition lol: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/whic...is-gen-and-which-ones-fell-off.1562243/page-3
fermcr said:
Negative: Bethesda
TheExorzist said:
Bethesda crashed so hard it's unbelievable.
BaneIsPain said:
I don’t think these studios will fall but I’m worried about their direction. (Bethesda)
LordCBH said:
Bethesda fell off so goddamn hard after making stuff I adored the previous two gens.
Sander Cohen said:
Bethesda embarrassed themselves with 2 Fallouts this gen.
MrS said:
Bethesda took a nose dive
AmuroChan said:
Fall:
Bethesda (Fallout 4, Fallout '76)
CitizenX said:
Move along nothing to see here- Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice well, fck off.
BGS- Never was really a fan except FO 3 was so fresh and since then, they are nothing but a mod studio
Camreezie said:
Fall:
Bethesda
GonSama said:
Fall:
Bethesda
Tschumi said:
Bethesda is the best call. Those guys were just so great, I'll never get over Morrowind and its impact on my gaming life... What on earth has happened to them?
Panama Joe said:
Who blew it? No studio fell harder IMO than Bethesda Softworks.
Fbh said:
Went down:
-Bethesda
Clarissa said:
Stock dropped
Bethesda
BusierDonkey said:
Bethesda - Bethesda's best work is way behind them.
VFXVeteran said:
Bethesda - stagnant
Sejan said:
I don’t know if Bethesda, BioWare, or Blizzard can recover with anything less than more than one stellar release. All three went from developers that could generally be assumed to release something good, to developers that I hardly trust to accomplish anything good until proven otherwise.
Griffon said:
Fall:
-Bethesda
The Mad Draklor said:
Went Down
Bethesda
Torrent of Pork said:
Bethesda really shit the bed this gen.
EldritchAbomination said:
Fall:
Bethesda
D3SCHA1N said:
Sheesh, for how high Bethesda was at the end of last gen with Skyrim being so well received, it's crazy how far they fell from grace.
KAL2006 said:
Bethesda - Fell off hard with Fallout 4, Fallout 76 and no Elder Scrolls sequel
Sony players after reading Sony might take over Ubisoft:
Sounds alot like MS fans with Bethesda....
Quotes taken from this thread Before the acquisition lol: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/whic...is-gen-and-which-ones-fell-off.1562243/page-3
fermcr said:
Negative: Bethesda
TheExorzist said:
Bethesda crashed so hard it's unbelievable.
BaneIsPain said:
I don’t think these studios will fall but I’m worried about their direction. (Bethesda)
LordCBH said:
Bethesda fell off so goddamn hard after making stuff I adored the previous two gens.
Sander Cohen said:
Bethesda embarrassed themselves with 2 Fallouts this gen.
MrS said:
Bethesda took a nose dive
AmuroChan said:
Fall:
Bethesda (Fallout 4, Fallout '76)
CitizenX said:
Move along nothing to see here- Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice well, fck off.
BGS- Never was really a fan except FO 3 was so fresh and since then, they are nothing but a mod studio
Camreezie said:
Fall:
Bethesda
GonSama said:
Fall:
Bethesda
Tschumi said:
Bethesda is the best call. Those guys were just so great, I'll never get over Morrowind and its impact on my gaming life... What on earth has happened to them?
Panama Joe said:
Who blew it? No studio fell harder IMO than Bethesda Softworks.
Fbh said:
Went down:
-Bethesda
Clarissa said:
Stock dropped
Bethesda
BusierDonkey said:
Bethesda - Bethesda's best work is way behind them.
VFXVeteran said:
Bethesda - stagnant
Sejan said:
I don’t know if Bethesda, BioWare, or Blizzard can recover with anything less than more than one stellar release. All three went from developers that could generally be assumed to release something good, to developers that I hardly trust to accomplish anything good until proven otherwise.
Griffon said:
Fall:
-Bethesda
The Mad Draklor said:
Went Down
Bethesda
Torrent of Pork said:
Bethesda really shit the bed this gen.
EldritchAbomination said:
Fall:
Bethesda
D3SCHA1N said:
Sheesh, for how high Bethesda was at the end of last gen with Skyrim being so well received, it's crazy how far they fell from grace.
KAL2006 said:
Bethesda - Fell off hard with Fallout 4, Fallout 76 and no Elder Scrolls sequel
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Rhazer Fusion
Member
Ubisoft has their issues, but the last thing I want to see is them being confined to a streaming only service on a unproven platform. Yea, things can get worst for them. Not to mention, does any of these streaming services actually ever succeed? That’s a huge risk for Ubisoft even if they are allowed to create PC/Steam games. They will probably be missing out on PlayStation, Xbox and Nintendo income with an unknown user base.
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Deleted member 775630
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Doesn't make sense for Amazon to already buy such a huge studio. Unless they are 100% sure game streaming will become a thing
Kdad
Member
Although Tencent is shit and you should avoid them, Ubisoft would have done the exact same to be in the Chinese market ... Same as Hollywood injecting really awkward Chinese story arcs into thier movies to get them in China.
Aidah
Member
Remember when exclusives didn't matter?
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jigglet
Banned
But they wouldn't have access to the Chinese market without Tencent. By law they have to partner with a local company to even have the option.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Is there any credibility to the Sony Ubisoft rumors or is it a 4chan thing?
Kdad
Member
Right...but it could be any Chinese company and the result would be the same....it isn't something unique to Tencent since it's the government that is being placated
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Question is, did these people change their mind after Microsoft acquired them? That's the real question.
I Love Rock 'n' Roll
Member
Michel Ancel has gone - i'm so sad about it.
I could not care less about today's Ubi.
I could not care less about today's Ubi.
metareferential
Member
The way I see it, these acquisitions are a streaming service related affair. Microsoft is also preparing for the long run, not just the console war (that when consoles inevitably go the way of the dodo).
Sony doesn't have the infrastructure to run a similar service. The big server guys are Google, Ms and Amazon.
Hell, as far as I know, PS Now even runs on the Azure network (Ms).
But hey, could be anything.
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Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Wait, so Sony does or doesn't have the infrastructure to compete in the streaming future?
Netflix runs on Amazon servers.
metareferential
Member
They don't have it, that's why they're running on MS' servers.
The fact you could be successful even without it is another matter entirely.
Portugeezer
Member
This level of research into fanboyism
Bluemaster77
Banned
This post is hilarious.
Mattyp
Gold Member
What shit? Ubisoft is a 10billion dollar public company meaning a buyout would mean even higher usually around 20% premium. No competent company spends 1/3 of their cash on hand after finally getting cash on hand after 7 good years.
The only players for an Ubisoft taker over are Amazon, Google, Microsoft or Apple.
Not even close to 15% please try again, interest is the cheapest its ever been in history. Debt while making investments and growing with cash on hand is the best business for any business right now. They've exploited a loop hole by purchasing a company with offshore cash they wish not to be taxed on. They now OWN that asset and the cash no longer sits offshore and wasn't taxed coming back into the U.S.
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FunkMiller
Member
I can second that, he is an equal opportunity scumbag
don't hate me, i could not control myself.
I could never hate you, you fishy prick
FunkMiller
Member
Fair point. Ballmer was fucking terrible.
The key point is somebody should buy Ubisoft. Anyone.
If Amazon buys ubisoft, they wont be buying it with anyone on this forum in mind. Its for customers that are budget conscious or dont have a console/ gaming pc yet. Ubisoft would just be to build a library. Amazon knows they are gonna need a game collection. How else can they get one?
Theres no real game straming company. At one time there was no video sharing/aggregating company. Then youtube came along. At one time there was no video game video streaming company. Then twitch came along. As MS saw with mixer or any of the other YouTube competitors can tell you being first to market or mass market share means everything. Time is burning and pretty sure Amazon has some plan for content so they arent some small bit player as they want to be first. They could probably buy ubisoft with last quarters profit. Thats how big Amazon is here.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
This means exactly that Amazon won't buy Ubisoft. Actually Amazon's approach is kinda smart. I give them that.
Personally aside ZeniMax other publishers are too expensive for anybody to buy. Amazon's approach with deals might be better - like EA Play is in GamePass, add UPlay etc. If XCloud becomes more popular in Japan and other countries I expect Sega, SE, Capcom on board as it would be similar to Switch....
Mobile Gaming is enormous and growing and XClould can become a natural way to enter this market without developing for it. Also Amazon might make some deals with other publishers to have different channels like SE channel, EA channel etc. And it would be also quite nice.
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UKTaylorSwift
Banned
Maybe if they were bought they'd make better far cry games tbh
JackNightblade
Member
Sony quite literally cant afford Ubisoft or anyone of that caliber so i dont know why people keep expecting them to answer MS’s bethesda purchase
Kumomeme
Member
Personally i believe Sony no need to made big acquisition. They already has solid, proven and successfull first party studio line up compared to their competitor counterpart. Their games sales and award speak for it. Even if they did, they probably targetting at 'smaller scale' that could strengthen their exclusives like previous Insomniac acquisition. What they need now is more variation in genre. But who know right? MS on other hand is in completely different situation. The situation actually not really favour them. They desperately need 'exclusives' to cover the gap for their gamepass since their first party studio seems not bear any fruit yet. Nothing solid shown yet earlier before Zenimax acquistion that atleast could 'shaken' Sony first party studio at the moment. Even the live presentation full of cgi trailer, lack of gameplay video. Even the their flagship Halo Infinite that could be their own 'BOTW' at launch turn into a meme and wont out probably atleast for another year. There rumors of Obsidian's Avowed, the one that could be their own 'Skyrim' still hiring for critical position indicate that the game still far off. So for the momment they in dire need of proven successfull studio and ip. The acquisition is quick solution that fix one of their main problem that plague them for years in short time. Now, in blink of eye, MS is in completely different situation, suddenly become 'strong' and full of confident facing next gen. I imagine it wont be same, if they didnt made the purchase. Well that bold decision supposed to be wont failed them but still depend on how they steer their big ship now.
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JackNightblade
Member
Sony doesnt even have half the cash-on-hand to buy Ubisoft. 0%
Oida di Figgiano
Banned
I guess a possible takeover and the best destination for ubisoft depends on where the future for ubisoft lies. Is it more towards singleplayer focused AAA Games (even if part of a franchise, but not in a yearly cycle anymore) then obvioiusly Sony would be the prime destination. Or ist it more leaning towards GAAS, eSports types of thing? Then MS is the better fit. Or is it a full commitment towards the (atm) obviously seeming future of streaming, then Luna may be the first option. And with their history of takeovers or better fighting against them the possibility of staying an independent multiplatform developer who dips into everything and changes "alliences" on a game to game basis (here its sony, there its nintendo -although a bit different than the other two, there its ms).
Maybe it may be smarter buying singular IP from them instead of the whole company, they have intriguing Franchises, some over- some underused...
Maybe it may be smarter buying singular IP from them instead of the whole company, they have intriguing Franchises, some over- some underused...
vivftp
Member
Sony has about 3x the market cap of Ubisoft in cash on hand, and credit is dirt cheap so that gives them even more money to play with. It's getting tiresome to see people spreading this nonsense.
Now on the subject of whether Sony needs to "answer MS's Bethesda purchase", that's a whole other topic. We know Sony's been shopping around for a while now, they were looking into acquiring Remedy last year according to multiple insiders and were looking to pick up Leyou Games a couple months ago before Tencent cockblocked them. Sony's been looking to expand so we'll likely see some movement on their part soon. It's anyones guess what that will entail though, but pretending they don't have the means of acquiring pubs like Capcom, Square Enix or Ubisoft is blatantly false. It's a matter of whether they have interest in pursuing such an acquisition and how their bid fares against any competitors.
At the very least I'm expecting Sony to pick up Bluepoint and Housemarque in the near future. Beyond that, who knows.
diffusionx
Gold Member
any of these companies can get the funds, money is cheap these days,
Would be huge if Ubisoft was acquired by Microsoft or Sony. Sony really doesn't need to however would be a great response to Microsoft getting Zenimax. If Microsoft acquired Ubisoft would definitely strengthen and even the odds with Sony. Amazon.... I just think it would be bad for Ubisoft to be stuck under Amazon. I doubt Ubisoft is for sale anyway.
FunkMiller
Member
Last month’s.
Amazon profit for 2019 was around 120 billion. Ubisoft worth 10.
Edit: however, it should be understood that Amazon do not like to buy publishers. They have no interest in lining the pockets of executives.
Instead, they will do all they can to steal developers away by offering them more money, better working conditions and making it easier for them to get their games to players.
Amazon getting into gaming isn't the disaster a lot of people think it is. If anything it'll make to better for both creatives and consumers. Just go look at the book market for proof.
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Kokoloko85
Member
This level of research into fanboyism
Lol someone done it in the thread not me.
Doesn’t beat the point though
Kokoloko85
Member
Well I doubt they will all be Nintendo and Playstation fanboys..
Basically your image is more proven for Bethesda at the moment than Playstations fans and Assassins creed....
It goes to show that when people say Amazon can't afford to buy ubisoft and then not get an immediate payoff, they dont know what they're talking about.
FunkMiller
Member
Well, no. Amazon have more money to throw around than anyone else. But see my above comment for why they won't buy Ubisoft. Not the Amazon way of doing things.
Garani
Member
Sony, at the moment, has some 1.4% shares of Epic. Not a whole lot, and it's more like a place holder than anything.
I don't get it why steam is always being brought in the picture: they just are a "virtual library" nowadays. Actually I am very very very afraid for the games that I have registered on Steam: if they go bellyup I loose all my games library.
And by the way, this is the REAL reason why I will be getting a standard PS5: I want my games on a disk as much as possible.
wipeout364
Member
I would be concerned with them getting acquired as it would certainly create a lot of consolidation in the industry. They would be a much better acquisition than EA as they own all of their IP.
I think they would be a poor acquisition for Sony even if they have the money, most of the games Ubisoft puts out are very similar to Sony in house games. Sony needs to diversify their line not have more of these open world single player games. They would get siege but I’m not sure that’s enough. What else would be a big addition to their lineup that would be different from Sony’s games the last few years.
I think they would be a poor acquisition for Sony even if they have the money, most of the games Ubisoft puts out are very similar to Sony in house games. Sony needs to diversify their line not have more of these open world single player games. They would get siege but I’m not sure that’s enough. What else would be a big addition to their lineup that would be different from Sony’s games the last few years.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Sony locking up ubisoft would be deal of the century
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