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UFC Fight Night 19/ UFC 103 Official Thread

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the talent level of this fight better not be indicative of the rest of this season, otherwise i'll be watching purely for the entertainment of rampage mouthing off

this fight sucks
 
I hate when guys attack of the glove touch. I know they aren't obligated to do it, but man, it's just douchey in my opinion.
 
ABE :lol1!!!!!!

This is quite possibly the worst fighter I've ever seen in the UFC.

Dana should throw his bloodied corpse into the river.

What a complete embarrassment.
 
Dark FaZe said:
ABE :lol1!!!!!!

This is quite possibly the worst fighter I've ever seen in the UFC.

Dana should throw his bloodied corpse into the river.

What a complete embarrassment.
Yeah, he is pretty much a waste of skin. I mean, he isnt doing ANYTHING. He isnt fighting bad, he isnt using terrible technique, he is doing absolutely nothing lol
 
Boogie said:
Nonsense.

Why are you wrong about everything?

People who don't watch the sport don't do so mostly due to the perceived violence. You think them tuning in out of curiosity and seeing a guy gushing mountains of blood won't turn them off?

Don't be a delusion gimp.
 
Zeliard said:
People who don't watch the sport don't do so mostly due to the perceived violence. You think them tuning in out of curiosity and seeing a guy gushing mountains of blood won't turn them off?

Don't be a delusion gimp.

People who have a "vague curiosity about the UFC" aren't going to be turned off by the "perceived violence"

Your posts are contradictory.

UFC hasn't been harmed by excessive blood in the past, and they're not going to be harmed by it now.
 
That cut had to have a fracture of some sort underneath. The depth of that thing was insane, not sure how it will heal fast enough for him to even get a second chance if one comes up.
 
Boogie said:
People who have a "vague curiosity about the UFC" aren't going to be turned off by the "perceived violence"

Your posts are contradictory.

UFC hasn't been harmed by excessive blood in the past, and they're not going to be harmed by it now.
They will be turned off by one dude laying on top of another dude, raining blows because the other guy can't defend himself.
 
abstract alien said:
That cut had to have a fracture of some sort underneath. The depth of that thing was insane, not sure how it will heal fast enough for him to even get a second chance if one comes up.

please dont give this guy a second chance! :lol
 
Zeliard said:
People who don't watch the sport don't do so mostly due to the perceived violence. You think them tuning in out of curiosity and seeing a guy gushing mountains of blood won't turn them off?

Don't be a delusion gimp.

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Boogie said:
People who have a "vague curiosity about the UFC" aren't going to be turned off by the "perceived violence"

Your posts are contradictory.

UFC hasn't been harmed by excessive blood in the past, and they're not going to be harmed by it now.

Nothing is contradictory there. And I never said it would harm the UFC, or that it would become some big thing. I'm talking about the random Joe who has heard about this ultimate fighting thing but never wanted to give it a try due to, yes, perceived violence (of which is no worse than boxing, and in fact less so), and upon tuning in and seeing a guy covered in blood his false preconceptions are confirmed.

Beardz said:

Boxing hasn't had that stigma attached to it in a long time.
 
now on spike, chuck liddel as a gladiator (deadliest warrior) :lol
 
SnakeXs said:
That's sure gotten boxing far, huh?

I don't see how that's relevant at all to my point.

Or, come to think of it, why me saying that someone not accustomed to the sport would be grossed out by the blood is something sacrilegious when several people in this thread noted it, and fighters on the show itself called it the most blood they'd ever seen in TUF. Boogie, ironically enough, called it "nasty".

The UFC and MMA in general has much more potential for growth than boxing, since its championship structure is far more elegant and sensical. It has to get rid of the ultra-violence stigma that used to be attached to boxing, and that should come through time.
 
Zeliard said:
I don't see how that's relevant at all to my point.

Or, come to think of it, why me saying that someone not accustomed to the sport would be grossed out by the blood is something sacrilegious when several people in this thread noted it, and fighters on the show itself called it the most blood they'd ever seen in TUF. Boogie, ironically enough, called it "nasty".

The UFC and MMA in general has much more potential for growth than boxing, since its championship structure is far more elegant and sensical. It has to get rid of the ultra-violence stigma that used to be attached to boxing, and that should come through time.

Dude...

UFC 100 was available in more than 300 million homes in 17 languages. While the UFC has a company policy of not disclosing exact pay-per-view figures, the sales for UFC 100 were in excess of 1.5 million, making it one of the most-watched PPV events in history.

THQ’s UFC 2009: Undisputed sold over one million copies in the US during May to top the monthly software chart, with the Xbox 360 version accounting for two thirds of sales.
 
good lord, i leave to watch the card and the thread is on page one, come back and its packed!

great night of fights, this was a fantastic fight night card that hopefully the ufc can deliver every couple of weeks next year when they start really pounding out their shows.

i was so excited for tim, we were all standing up and screaming, and as soon as they stood back up all i could think was 'PLEASE GOD DONT STAND SWINGING IN FRONT OF HIM AND GET HIT YOU COULD WIN THIS ROUND' but that was not the case. i kind of wonder what drives him to fight like this. its almost the same as chris lytle or jorge gurgel- you have all this talent and you can fight smart to try to use it, but you do 'exciting' fights instead and wind up losing! hell, he put on a great show, but i just want him to get the win! but im thinking more from the perspective as a very personal fan of him and not a guy that just likes watching fights. most people i know knew tim when he did gi jiu jitsu tourneys and didnt know him as an mma fighter.

that ellenberger condit fight was way to close for comfort. ellenberger was smacking him in the back of the head while he was turtled up in the first, but could you blame him? do the GSP v serra thing and just lay some mean knees to the body when he is like that imo. good fight.

huerta and maynard was great as well. i hate seeing heurta leave.... maybe he can make a hell of a lot more money going hollywood and everything, but damn.... imagine you are a guy who has the last fight on your contract coming up, you already have plans AFTERWARDS that will probably not be affected much by this fight, and you put on a show like that? how is his shoulder not completely fucked up!!! if i did something like that in a tournament i would think 'holy crap this guy is going to be disabled after this'.

and the diaz v guillard fight was pretty good. nate has a chin, you cant argue that. he stuck in there and fight like a kid from the slums. as soon as guillard went for that stupid ass shot i jumped and said 'your fucking done' and i was right. if you take a sloppy shot like that on a guy that can actually finish a choke, your night is over.

cant wait for saturday!

also, from the post right above me saying ufc 100 was watching in 300 million homes, give me a fucking break!
 
I think I picked every fight correctly, but that fantasy site won't update so I can't be sure.

Fights were pretty good, but mostly brawls rather than technique. I've noticed that makes for a more "popular" fight though. Meh. Still very action oriented.

I can't believe how slow and bad Nate Quarry looks. And he still won. I got worried about my picks on that one. The Bully and Huerta was pretty good and I knew Diaz was a lock after he got knocked around a bit.

About TUF....

Quentin is going to be a worse coach than Shamrock. More fun to watch, but damn, he is going to lose a lot of fights.

Also, the "feud" seems totally make believe. Dana White smoke machine in full effect. But at least they're both funny, quick witted guys so the act is funny.
 
Yeah there's obviously no feud, they are just shit talking

also do they not know that big country is legi, none of them actually follow mms outside of the ufc?

Why such the hardon for kimbo? The times hes fought guys this big he's gotten jacked

also mazagatti sucks donkey dick
 
Beardz said:

Dude, the sport is still banned in some states and parts of Canada. MMA has plenty of room for growth, and yes, it's still stigmatized. During UFC 100 you still had journalists from various mainstream newspapers and websites crying about how vile they think the whole thing is. That'll never change, but it will die down substantially in due time.

Pointing out a mostly anomalous, heavily-hyped UFC event featuring Brock Lesnar, that had far more buys than the several events both before and after it, is supposed to argue what exactly? That the UFC and MMA have reached their peak?

Some of you are mystifying in your responses. It doesn't take much to look outside of your own bubble and see that many people still have deep misconceptions about the sport. As it continues to grow and become more popular, that'll start to change. It's already in the process.
 
Zeliard said:
Dude, the sport is still banned in some states and parts of Canada. MMA has plenty of room for growth, and yes, it's still stigmatized. During UFC 100 you still had journalists from various mainstream newspapers and websites crying about how vile they think the whole thing is. That'll never change, but it will die down substantially in due time.

Pointing out a mostly anomalous, heavily-hyped UFC event featuring Brock Lesnar, that had far more buys than the several events both before and after it, is supposed to argue what exactly? That the UFC and MMA have reached their peak?

Some of you are mystifying in your responses. It doesn't take much to look outside of your own bubble and see that many people still have deep misconceptions about the sport. As it continues to grow and become more popular, that'll start to change. It's already in the process.

Yes, people who hate fighting will find it barbaric. Some boxing fans will find it barbaric. People who are interested understand that it's combat, blood happens, knockouts happen, and on some slight occasions even worse happens.

People who were interested in the UFC/TUF and are now crying under their sheets because a few mL of blood flowed probably weren't going to be fans either way. I'm not sure what you want to hear, even. Blood is icky? My mom would have been disgusted? Either way it's not one iota the event you're making it out to be.
 
hey guys, just got done finishing all this up, sorry wasn't able to partake in the conversation, had to wait for the tape delay showing.......

great night tonight, although i AM FUCKING PISSED THAT LARSON AND CANTWELL LOST!!!!!!

i laughed hard when Guillard, in typical Guillard fashion, found a way to get subbed, Condit showed some heart out there, i thought that was gonna get stopped in the first, thanks to Gray Maynard for sending Huerta out of the UFC with a loss.......good luck with that acting there buddy.....

+1 for the awesome Robert Drysdale flying armbar commercial as well.
 
SnakeXs said:
Yes, people who hate fighting will find it barbaric. Some boxing fans will find it barbaric. People who are interested understand that it's combat, blood happens, knockouts happen, and on some slight occasions even worse happens.

People who were interested in the UFC/TUF and are now crying under their sheets because a few mL of blood flowed probably weren't going to be fans either way. I'm not sure what you want to hear, even. Blood is icky? My mom would have been disgusted? Either way it's not one iota the event you're making it out to be.

lol @ me trying to make it an event. I made a short and light comment when the blood started flowing that someone curious about the sport would be turned off if they tuned it at that point, and people started rushing to defend the entire UFC as a whole as if what I said was some huge slight against the organization, instead of something obvious and ultimately trivial about Joe Schmoe television watcher. I haven't seen a group this overly defensive since the Dreamcast days. :lol
 
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