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UK: Legs Morales crushes the Charts

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Does MINECRAFT (NINTENDO) count for MS since they owned Minecraft and make profit from it sales on other platform. Or no?
 
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Whats wrong with xbox fans,Deamon souls is a awsome game, hopfully it comes to pc, so u salty fans get to play a next gen looking game, as there won't be many on xbox. just Joking lol, , why can't we just get along, we need great games on both platforms. competition is great for us consumers.
 

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Is MK11 Ultimate on Game Pass?

I don’t know, but that’s not really what I’m talking about. What the inclusion of a game on the service does to its sales outside is pretty meaningless, because it’s on it. What matters is what such a service does to the rest of the platform, and how it changes the buying habits of its customers. Attach ratio on X1 was rather poor, in comparison, so how will the prevalence of such a subscription affect it? Probably not in a positive way, and it’s already becoming common to see PS5 versions outsell Series version by big margins.
 
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Mr_Potato

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Whats wrong with xbox fans,Deamon souls is a awsome game, hopfully it comes to pc, so u salty fans get to play a next gen looking game, as there won't be many on xbox. just Joking lol, , why can't we just get along, we need great games on both platforms. competition is great for us consumers.

Well said. To be fair, Bernd is a bit of a "special case" like Riky, there are normal fans who understand what you just said too.

We definitely need a heathy competition in the console market.
 
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But but but scalpers don't buy games how is this possible?!
Anecdotally scalpers won't buy them of course, and would also dripfeed their stock to try to maximize the profits.

I guess it works out at the end, then again UK have always been the Sony's turf it's weird that we have Switch sales on top for a while, ports even.
 

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Anecdotally scalpers won't buy them of course, and would also dripfeed their stock to try to maximize the profits.

I guess it works out at the end, then again UK have always been the Sony's turf it's weird that we have Switch sales on top for a while, ports even.

Actually, UK was the main Xbox territory in Europe during the 360 era. It turned around a bit during PS4 era but it wasn't always a Sony territory.
 
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I came to see whether Demons Souls is still a bomba, and stayed for the denial by Team Sony :messenger_beaming:

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Please don't do this to yourself.
 

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I don’t know, but that’s not really what I’m talking about. What the inclusion of a game on the service does to its sales outside is pretty meaningless, because it’s on it. What matters is what such a service does to the rest of the platform, and how it changes the buying habits of its customers. Attach ratio on X1 was rather poor, in comparison, so how will the prevalence of such a subscription affect it? Probably not in a positive way, and it’s already becoming common to see PS5 versions outsell Series version by big margins.
Exactly. Microsoft is grooming its costumers into the habit of not buying any games but rather waiting for them to come to Game pass instead.

You can see this habit in full display here where some people are saying that game pass is the best value in gaming and why buy games anymore when you can wait for it to come to Game pass.

I'm sure Microsoft is betting on the future where they will become the Netflix of gaming, but this logic is flawed because Netflix is available everywhere for free, you just need to pay for the subscription. The userbase it already there. However, for Microsoft in the console space, you need to sell hardware first in order to sell software. Different ball game.

I'm sure their software sales are much worse than last gen. Its only going to get worst from now unit they end up being the Netflix of gaming and they won't care as much for software and hardware sales. No way it happens this gen though. Sony will dominate software sales of third party as the result of this for now.
 
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Actually, UK was the main Xbox territory in Europe during the 360 era. It turned around a bit during PS4 era but it wasn't always a Sony territory.

Well it is main xbox territory in Europe - after all xbox is outsold by less than 2:1 in UK while when we get data from other countries it's usually 4:1 or more :D
 
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Perfect storm

-1 million lead over XBS in US+UK by the end of march is within reach (it took 18 months last gen)

-Strong PS SW sales

-Abysmal XB SW sales due to Game Pass and Sony's growing market share in US+UK

-Third parties depend on Sony

Game Pass is a double edged sword. It could lead to unintended consequences and help Sony.
 
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No, I just find it interesting because it's the only real exclusive so far and people aren't crazy about it which is weird. It also goes against the narrative that exclusives sell consoles so I like it (since Xbox has no exclusives :messenger_pensive:)
No, you're just salty that Xbox doesn't have any exclusive of Demon's Souls' caliber. :messenger_winking:
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This going to be pattern for the whole year I think. Sales of games on PlayStation will vary wildly depending on PS5 stock.
 

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Perfect storm

-1 million lead over XBS in US+UK by the end of march is within reach (it took 18 months last gen)

-Strong PS SW sales

-Abysmal XB SW sales due to Game Pass and Sony's growing market share in US+UK

-Third parties depend on Sony

Game Pass is a double edged sword. It could lead to unintended consequences and help Sony.
Gamepass right now is not a problem, until microsoft pay a good amount of money. If don't, that's a problem...
 

Hatsuma

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Perfect storm

-1 million lead over XBS in US+UK by the end of march is within reach (it took 18 months last gen)

-Strong PS SW sales

-Abysmal XB SW sales due to Game Pass and Sony's growing market share in US+UK

-Third parties depend on Sony

Game Pass is a double edged sword. It could lead to unintended consequences and help Sony.

Pretty much. 5 months in no less. And if the gap widens further, even faster, this is only going to snowball even worse. Their 2020 was blistering with momentum ontop of having a relatively strong launch. PS Plus collection and Plus offering are adding to that attractiveness.
 

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Perfect storm

-1 million lead over XBS in US+UK by the end of march is within reach (it took 18 months last gen)

-Strong PS SW sales

-Abysmal XB SW sales due to Game Pass and Sony's growing market share in US+UK

-Third parties depend on Sony

Game Pass is a double edged sword. It could lead to unintended consequences and help Sony.

Its true, all of it.

Look, I get they both have different goals. And if it works/is working for MS, good for them. But....lets not kid ourselves, it is a gamble.

If there is one thing I cant stand about Miles......









My son cant stop playing it. Its probably the first game he ever finished. And he just keeps doing Underground Hideout side missions over and over and over and over.........
 
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Hatsuma

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Its true, all of it.

Look, I get they both have different goals. And if it works/is working for MS, good for them. But....lets not kid ourselves, it is a gamble.

If there is one thing I cant stand about Miles......









My son cant stop playing it. Its probably the first game he ever finished. And he just keeps doing Underground Hideout side missions over and over and over and over.........
Your son is the true hero lol
 
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What the hell else are new ps5 owners meant to buy to show off their shiny new console?
Idk how about demon souls,sackboy and the pathless to name a few not to mention all the multiplats. The ps5 has more than enough to play especially with ps4 BC.