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[industrian]

Let's follow NICK CLEGG'S CAR.

I hope he goes mad, tells his driver to floor it, and it turns into an impromptu America's Scariest Police chases.

that one tory seat in scotland stands out like a non-london labour seat in the south.

Mundell better be doing an excellent job there, because yes, it stands out. 1997 was glorious - no Tories in Scotland whatsoever.

 

[industrian]

Maybe Gordon Brown could go live in it after all this is done. Would be a shame to go to waste.

The way we're going now we're going to have a handful of elections in the next few years. It's a good investment by the BBC.

 

[J Tourettes]

I feel so ill. Vodka no longer agrees with me.

 

[Meadows]

Tories won both seats that I live in, changing me from living in LD and LAB strongholds to two CON. My MP in Aberconwy is also called Guto Bebb.

 

[industrian]

Argyll & Bute are taking their sweet-ass time in counting their votes.

 

[Empty]

Tory infighting starting already with this attack on Cameron from a Telegraph columnist. It's pretty long so I won't copy it all here but worth a read.

delingpole - who, i must add, is a world leading tosser - has been very very negative about cameron pre-election to. i would wait for some more high profile infighting, which should be much more juicy.

 

[Dambrosi]

I wonder if Cameron will resign if he doesn't form a government.

When you think about it, it does indeed seem like quite a fail on the Tories' part not to win a majority given the context. A long-in-the-tooth, highly unpopular incumbent with a huge economic challenge.

If the internal Tory attacks already flung at Cameron for the Tories' not-good-enough performance intensify (which almost certainly would happen if he gave in to Clegg's demands for voting reform), there's a chance he could be forced out, sure.

More importantly, there's the whole question of whether Cameron can even form a stable government to begin with, what with their differences with the Lib Dems and the infighting that has already begun. It's going to be a long week for the Toffs

As for Brown (yeah, I know you didn't ask), he's gone whatever happens.

And don't forget: now the BBC is safe! Murdoch lost the most of everyone involved! Now there's no possible way the Tories can get away with raping Auntie Beeb and Uncle OFCOM - no majority means no kowtowing to the Australian, which is only a good thing.

 

[gofreak]

Just to clarify: when people talk of a minority government, that government would still have to win a vote in parliament, right? Would have to get a majority of votes approving it?

 

[operon]

yes

 

[dsister44]

SOMEONE, ANYONE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD EMAIL THE BBC WITH THIS THREAD!

well BBC site just got an update on the formation of a facebook group. This really is ridiculous

 

[industrian]

Back to the holodeck: Itchy chin dude will never go away.

 

[Nicktendo86]

Brown to make a statement in Downing Street imminently...

 

[Withnail]

delingpole - who, i must add, is a world leading tosser - has been very very negative about cameron pre-election to. i would wait for some more high profile infighting, which should be much more juicy.

Fair enough, he does seem a bit over keen to stick the boot in. This kind of stuff can snowball though so as you say we should get some entertaining stuff later.

 

[Wes]

Just to clarify: when people talk of a minority government, that government would still have to win a vote in parliament, right? Would have to get a majority of votes approving it?

They'd have to have Queen Speech offer free puppies to MPs to make sure it went through.

 

[Varion]

Whoo, the much awaited Argyll & Bute staying with the Lib Dems.

 

[industrian]

Argyle & Bute - LD hold.

Final results in Scotland:

Labour - 41
Liberal Democrats - 11
Scottish National Party - 6
Conservative - 1

Labour had 42% of the vote. Around 1/5 of our population.

 

[Veidt]

Brown to make a statement in Downing Street imminently...

Speaking of Brown. I find that he handled the recession exceptionally well. I have no idea why the widespread hatred for the man.

He's alright in my books.

 

[navanman]

Speaking of Brown. I find that he handled the recession exceptionally well. I have no idea why the widespread hatred for the man.

He's alright in my books.

I don't understand the hate also but when a party has been in power for so long, everything action they take and decision they make is "wrong".

 

[Dambrosi]

Speaking of Brown. I find that he handled the recession exceptionally well. I have no idea why the widespread hatred for the man.

He's alright in my books.

He's "unelected" (which is a false argument, since no PM is ever elected, only MPs are), gruff, Scottish in a way that can't be covered up, and is MUCH smarter than you.

Yeah, I think that covers it.

 

[Deacan]

I don't understand the hate also but when a party has been in power for so long, everything action they take and decision they make is "wrong".

Very true, people often want change for the sake of change.

 

[industrian]

Speaking of Brown. I find that he handled the recession exceptionally well. I have no idea why the widespread hatred for the man.

He's alright in my books.

I find it hard to blame one man, in one country for a global recession.

 

[curls]

Speaking of Brown. I find that he handled the recession exceptionally well. I have no idea why the widespread hatred for the man.

He's alright in my books.

Better the devil you know, than the devil you don't know.

 

[industrian]

He's "unelected" (which is a false argument, since no PM is ever elected, only MPs are), gruff, Scottish in a way that can't be covered up, and is MUCH smarter than you.

Yeah, I think that covers it.

He's as charismatic as a plank of wood. In start contrast to Tony Blair, who could dance his way out of anything.

 

[Veidt]

I don't understand the hate also but when a party has been in power for so long, everything action they take and decision they make is "wrong".

Brown isn't the PM people wanted. But he was the PM they needed.
If Cameron was in charge during the recession, the country would probably look more like Greece by now.

Seriously. He isn't the best PM ( no one is).
But most people simply come off as absolute ingrates with the extreme disdain for the man.

I find it hard to blame one man, in one country for a global recession.

Agreed. I get pissed off the way everyone seems to put the man down.

 

[sohois]

Back after my sleep, and it seems Conservatives won Reading east after all which is good for my friend. Anything particulaarly noteworth happen since 6:00am? Also, industrian, have you been posting in the thread since then, or did you take a break? if it's the former, you must have been in this thread for more than 12 hours.

 

[Wes]

I do so hope Brown comes out and says he's going to try and form a government.

Things would get crazy.

 

[Jex]

He's as charismatic as a plank of wood. In start contrast to Tony Blair, who could dance his way out of anything.

It's true, he certainly looks out of place compared to the other two leaders.

 

[painey]

my local election results still arent in.. really hoping the residents association have won this time.. they were only 100 votes each off last time and this year there were quite a few flyers out for them..

 

[Jex]

I see Brown is trying to get out in front of Cameron.

 

[industrian]

Also, industrian, have you been posting in the thread since then, or did you take a break? if it's the former, you must have been in this thread for more than 12 hours.

I started following the election at 9am Korean time (Midnight GMT), and with exception of a lunch break and an hour's walk home I've been following it. It's political overdose.

And I'm munching the fuck out of this fried chicken right now. Holy shit it hit the spot. I'll sleep heartily tonight.

 

[Empty]

Argyle & Bute - LD hold.

Final results in Scotland:

Labour - 41
Liberal Democrats - 11
Scottish National Party - 6
Conservative - 1

Labour had 42% of the vote. Around 1/5 of our population.

Scotland just totally rejects the trends of the election. In my seat, aberdeen north, Labour's share of the vote actually increased. Incredible.

 

[Varion]

I see Brown is trying to get out in front of Cameron.

No surprises there. Surprised it's taken so long though, considering it was supposd to be 'imminent' about half an hour ago. Oh well, he still has an hour before Cameron's statement.

Also, been posting in this thread for over 16 hours straight now :lol Jesus.

 

[Xavien]

I do so hope Brown comes out and says he's going to try and form a government.

Things would get crazy.

Ofcourse he is, he's not going to give up without a fight. Darth Mandleson won't let him.

Dimbleby is definitely tiring out now, hes sl..ooo..www..in..g down.

 

[Varion]

Ah, okay, within the next 10 mins. The next hour should good stuff.

 

[Empty]

HOW IS DIMBELBY STILL GOING

 

[Veidt]

HOW IS DIMBELBY STILL GOING

He took a 4-5 2 hour nap :lol

He had a 2 hour nap between 9 and 11... but other than that yep, he's been on TV the whole time :lol Amazing.

guess i got that wrong.

 

[industrian]

Scotland just totally rejects the trends of the election. In my seat, aberdeen north, Labour's share of the vote actually increased. Incredible.

And for an "absolute failure" of a PM, Brown increased his majority by a large number.

For any English folk wondering why we still vote Labour in huge numbers, I'd go as far as saying that the majority of Scottish Labour MPs are still old-school socialist types.

 

[freethought]

Christ have they still not let Dimbleby go to bed?

 

[Varion]

Christ have they still not let Dimbleby go to bed?

He had a 2 hour nap between 9 and 11... but other than that yep, he's been on TV the whole time :lol Amazing.

 

[industrian]

I go to the toilet and BOOM, Dracula is on my screen when I get back.

 

[navanman]

BEEB interview now with Conversatives.
There stance is no deal with Lib Dems, looking for government in "The National Interest"

 

[Empty]

oh right. i guess he napped when i did. still insane stamina for a man of his age

And for an "absolute failure" of a PM, Brown increased his majority by a large number.

For any English folk wondering why we still vote Labour in huge numbers, I'd go as far as saying that the majority of them are still old-school socialist types.

the scottish leaders debate was interesting watching. first two questions: "why should the public sector suffer for the mistakes of the private sector?", "how do you plan on punishing the banks for destroying the economy", amazing contrast to england where it was all like "why aren't you planning to cut MORE".

 

[curls]

Good luck with a minority conservative government Mr Howard.

 

[Xavien]

and here..we.. go.

 

[industrian]

Brown is up.

 

[Varion]

No surprise, Brown's totally open.

 

[Wes]

Say the magic words Gordon.

 

[Veidt]

Brown, honest man.

 

[industrian]

Brown's offered his hand to Clegg.

This BBC Website feed is getting choppy.

 

[curls]

Stable economic recovery and political reform. Sounds good to me.