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[lowrider007]

I like my PSP Go.

I'm sorry so many of you cant afford one.

Finally, the truth of the matter, you know I really think that's what a lot of all this crying is about tbh, most of you already own a PSP that works fine but you feel compelled to own the new model but simply can't justify the cost so you all cry and put it down instead so you can try and convince yourself that you don't need to upgrade, well that's tough tbh.

Well it has BT, FHDD and lots of multimedia features. But. It's an online only device for gaming, on a platform that has struggled and still is. PSP should be going lower in price not higher. It's like the whole PS3 situation all over again, sure it may do more things but if it's more expensive and the competition has strong mind share as well. it'll be overlooked.

Or like OldjadedGamer said, drop the slim PSP's to $129 and bring out the GO at $199 w/e.

How on earth is it "like the whole PS3 situation all over again" ?, if you want a cheap PSP they are available, that was not the case when the PS3 was released, people are treating this as if it's a new system release, all it is is an extension of their current PSP range, a premium model based on DD that's all, it's not a replacement.

 

[mrklaw]

According to Sony, psp go sold as many units as psp 3000 last week in the UK, which hardly seems 'doa'

 

[OldJadedGamer]

Finally, the truth of the matter, you know I really think that's what a lot of all this crying is about tbh, most of you already own a PSP that works fine but you feel compelled to own the new model but simply can't justify the cost so you all cry and put it down instead so you can try and convince yourself that you don't need to upgrade, well that's tough tbh.

I don't think it's at all. People will buy the things they want. I had a PS3 phat unit and didn't need to upgrade at all to the Slim but I wanted one so I bought a slim and sold my phat. I could afford it and wanted it so I bought it.

I have a PSP 2000 now and would have bought the Go if it wasn't gimped out of the box. I had a post on GAF from the second it was announced saying I was going to buy a Go day one but then when more info came out about how it was gimped, I changed my mind and will now ignore it just like I did the GB Micro.

Not being able to afford it is a scapegoat that are being re-dug up as an excuse like we tended to see PS3 launch owners at the time.

 

[HK-47]

According to Sony, psp go sold as many units as psp 3000 last week in the UK, which hardly seems 'doa'

Where is the context though? How many PSP Go are we talking about? 3000 could be anemic.

 

[Dr. Zoidberg]

This is a complete disaster!

It's a total debacle!

But seriously, the lack of CFW is the killer for me. My phat (1000) is about dead. It won't charge the battery, and it cuts off randomly during games. I might be interested in the Go even without CFW if I could transfer my games, but since we have to re-buy them? Eff that. I've got to keep an eye out for a hackable used older unit locally.

 

[gcubed]

i see no one here, nor even Eurogamer for that matter, did 30 seconds worth of checking to notice that the only retailer on that list that actually dropped the price was Amazon... but dont let me rain on anyone's parade, continue on

 

[LiK]

i see no one here, nor even Eurogamer for that matter, did 30 seconds worth of checking to notice that the only retailer on that list that actually dropped the price was Amazon... but dont let me rain on anyone's parade, continue on

Just the beginning, muhaha

 

[Tobor]

Finally, the truth of the matter, you know I really think that's what a lot of all this crying is about tbh, most of you already own a PSP that works fine but you feel compelled to own the new model but simply can't justify the cost so you all cry and put it down instead so you can try and convince yourself that you don't need to upgrade, well that's tough tbh.

The truth of the matter is that people around here are acting as if Sony killed their children over an optional model. An optional model that has reinvigorated PSP development for everyone, regardless of which model they own. Maybe it's time for everyone to step back and re-examine why this device threatens them so much.

 

[lowrider007]

The truth of the matter is that people around here are acting as if Sony killed their children over an optional model. An optional model that has reinvigorated PSP development for everyone, regardless of which model they own. Maybe it's time for everyone to step back and re-examine why this device threatens them so much.

I agree, I pretty much said as much on the previous page.

"I hardly think that Sony expected it to sell millions on it release tbh, I can only imagine that most of the people crying are current PSP owners, which to me just doesn't make sense unless Sony ninjas are in your house holding a katana to your throat forcing you to buy one, even though your current PSP works fine can access all the same content, so why the hating ?, just enjoy your current system, the PSP Go has enhanced every PSP users experience because of all of the extra content that has been brought to the store because of it's release and that will no doubt continue to improve, that isn't exclusive to 'Go' users."

 

[LCfiner]

i know it's not realistic pricing, but at $99 this thing would have been huge.

I know it’s not realistic pricing but a BMW M5 for 5 bucks would be even huger

 

[Sadist]

Hmm... not the most ideal start it seems.

 

[elrechazado]

Ahh, the old "you're too poor to afford it" nonsense. I never get tired of seeing that one trotted out, whether it's for xbl, or price of games, or the ps3, or the go!. Making idiotic generalizations is always a blast.

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

The truth of the matter is that people around here are acting as if Sony killed their children over an optional model. An optional model that has reinvigorated PSP development for everyone, regardless of which model they own. Maybe it's time for everyone to step back and re-examine why this device threatens them so much.

It doesn't threaten me.

I want one. I can afford one. But if I can't take my existing PSP collection with it without having to re-buy all 10 games, then why would I buy one?

I haven't bought a new PSP game since God of War, and it was almost a year before THAT one.

The PSP doesn't have many if ANY new games that I want. I want to continue to play my existing titles, and maybe pick up some of those Mini titles which sound cool.

But why should I have to RE BUY all my games to play them on this newer model? I was excited about the idea of not having to carry around UMDs with me.

I don't think anyone is threatened. They're upset because they DO want one, but Sony hasn't REALLY given them the incentive to pick it up.

 

[KZObsessed]

You could get it for £199 before launch.

Not that that's anymore positive :lol

 

[Y2Kev]

Is the Go a concession to developers? Like a last ditch attempt to drum up development support?

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

Finally, the truth of the matter, you know I really think that's what a lot of all this crying is about tbh, most of you already own a PSP that works fine but you feel compelled to own the new model but simply can't justify the cost so you all cry and put it down instead so you can try and convince yourself that you don't need to upgrade, well that's tough tbh.

I don't think you understand that this guy was trolling people who don't like them. You and he are on the same side.

 

[perfectchaos007]

Hell Sony should be practically giving away PSPGo's if they had any common sense. They make tons more money off of them for 2 big reasons!

1. All profit from games on PSPGo go straight to sony! No commision to retailers!
2. They have a monopoly on game prices via sony store. They can charge $30 for a game you can get for $15 dollars anywhere else. And reports from consumers indicate that Sony is already using this tactic!

So if this product was a hit, Sony would make boatloads of cash, but the product wont be a hit if the damn thing is almost the price of a PS3! This product should be at DSLite price level.

 

[HK-47]

It doesn't threaten me.

I want one. I can afford one. But if I can't take my existing PSP collection with it without having to re-buy all 10 games, then why would I buy one?

I haven't bought a new PSP game since God of War, and it was almost a year before THAT one.

The PSP doesn't have many if ANY new games that I want. I want to continue to play my existing titles, and maybe pick up some of those Mini titles which sound cool.

But why should I have to RE BUY all my games to play them on this newer model? I was excited about the idea of not having to carry around UMDs with me.

I don't think anyone is threatened. They're upset because they DO want one, but Sony hasn't REALLY given them the incentive to pick it up.

Have you been reading Go threads at all?

 

[Tobor]

Here's the thing though, the PSP was on it's last legs before the Go convinced publishers to give it another shot. Do we want this platform to survive long term, or not? For better or worse, the Go is the testbed for a new platform, and the last stand for the old one.

Hate the price, bitch and moan about the DD, but at the end of the day, any fan of the PSP platform should at least appreciate that Sony is making an effort to save the brand.

 

[Google]

Even buying a PSP 3000 and a separate 16gb Memory Stick Duo is cheaper than buying a PSPGo.

What's your point?

That because something is cheaper, it's value is exponential to that of it's more expensive cousin?

 

[elrechazado]

Here's the thing though, the PSP was on it's last legs before the Go convinced publishers to give it another shot.

Which publishers have reengaged thanks to the go specifically? Any evidence for this?

 

[Tobor]

It doesn't threaten me.

I want one. I can afford one. But if I can't take my existing PSP collection with it without having to re-buy all 10 games, then why would I buy one?

I haven't bought a new PSP game since God of War, and it was almost a year before THAT one.

The PSP doesn't have many if ANY new games that I want. I want to continue to play my existing titles, and maybe pick up some of those Mini titles which sound cool.

But why should I have to RE BUY all my games to play them on this newer model? I was excited about the idea of not having to carry around UMDs with me.

I don't think anyone is threatened. They're upset because they DO want one, but Sony hasn't REALLY given them the incentive to pick it up.

That's a lot of the sentiment, agreed, but it doesn't explain the "die in a fire" attitude from admitted fans of the platform.

Which publishers have reengaged thanks to the go specifically? Any evidence for this?

John Davison speaking to western developers. Beyond that, you honestly think Sony's big 1st and 2nd party push happens without the Go?

 

[Yes Boss!]

The truth of the matter is that people around here are acting as if Sony killed their children over an optional model. An optional model that has reinvigorated PSP development for everyone, regardless of which model they own. Maybe it's time for everyone to step back and re-examine why this device threatens them so much.

Honestly, I think a lot of buyers (at least on GAF) know exactly what Go is and are buying it as a second machine. The lack of UMD and ability to play existing titles is a bonus in this case. This is a PSN machine with the titles curated by Sony. I have no intention of getting rid of my older PSPs that play UMDs. Go is my smaller, more portable friendly machine that I take out of the house now. Phat is for home playing and my import UMDs.

I'll likely pick up a second Go for all my Japanese PSN shooters I've amassed and the future PSN releases from that region.

 

[Y2Kev]

Which publishers have reengaged thanks to the go specifically? Any evidence for this?

I think something like AoT PSP and AssCrud PSP are great examples of games that would not have happened two years ago. I am just theorizing that this is because of the Go, though.

Not that I give a shit. The Go is--unlike the DSi-- the perfect system upgrade. It's optional and offers no locked-out software. Bitch and moan all you want, hang on to your PSP 3000 and you're golden.

Can't say the same thing about my DS. (Not that it's at all relevant, but the complaining seems sort of strange).

I do get the opportunity cost argument. Unless DD was a concession to publishers.

 

[OldJadedGamer]

What's your point?

That because something is cheaper, it's value is exponential to that of it's more expensive cousin?

I was still trying to figure out the point in the post I was referring to.

 

[Shotgun Kiss]

I would have thought retailers would have liked the high price point. It's the only way they can make money off it, or even better for them, it convinces peole to buy an old PSP instead, and therefore, actual hard copies of games.

I'm surprised more retailers haven't boycotted the PSP Go entirely, much less dropping the price.

 

[2 Minutes Turkish]

That's a lot of the sentiment, agreed, but it doesn't explain the "die in a fire" attitude from admitted fans of the platform.

Sorry, I TRY to stay out of official Sony threads, so I haven't seen the die in a fire stuff.

 

[lowrider007]

Ahh, the old "you're too poor to afford it" nonsense. I never get tired of seeing that one trotted out, whether it's for xbl, or price of games, or the ps3, or the go!. Making idiotic generalizations is always a blast.

Which why I didn't use the words 'poor', I said "can't justify the cost", and whether people like it or not for a fact there users on this board crying and moaning about the Go and that stems from them not being able to 'justify' the cost of the system when they already own PSP, but why moan when you can enjoy the system that you already own, that's what I don't get, surely current PSP owners should be happy that they have the ability to gain access to all this new content that the store has to offer, because of the release of the Go Sony are now pushing more DD content aggressively and current PSP owners get to reap the rewards for free, Sony didn't make this content exclusive to the Go, so what's the problem ?

Ok the go doesn't take umd's, so what, you already own a perfectly working PSP then ? just forget about the Go, it's just not you then, but it will suit other users that maybe don't own many umd's, or most probably new users that are comparing the price of the 3000 model + 16gb memory card vs the price of a Go with it's inbuilt 16gb memory and may prefer to own the new model @ a little extra cost to have the system in a nicer shell.

 

[elrechazado]

John Davison speaking to western developers. Beyond that, you honestly think Sony's big 1st and 2nd party push happens without the Go?

Sony's own publishers is your example?

 

[elrechazado]

Which why I didn't use the words 'poor', I said "can't justify the cost"

....ok, except you didn't at all.

Originally Posted by Google:
I like my PSP Go.

I'm sorry so many of you cant afford one.

Finally, the truth of the matter

oops :lol

 

[PopcornMegaphone]

The Go is a weird value proposition. It's targeted towards core gamers who are willing to shell out $250 for a portable gaming device, but don't already own a psp. The core market is already saturated, while the more casual market would be more interested in the DSi or IPod Touch.

I can understand how some people would like the Go, but chilly reception isn't shocking. IMO Sony went in the wrong direction.

 

[lowrider007]

....ok, except you didn't at all.

Originally Posted by Google:
I like my PSP Go.

I'm sorry so many of you cant afford one.



oops :lol

Show me where I said 'poor' please ?

I agreed with what he said and reiterated it into my own 'preferred' words that suited my own opinion.

 

[Plasma]

I still have the really old PSP model, I want a GO but £200 is still too much to pay. Will probably pick one up if/when the price hits around the £130-£150 mark.

 

[elrechazado]

Show me where I said 'poor' please ?

Keep digging

 

[Tobor]

Sony's own publishers is your example?

So you skipped the first part of my post?

 

[lowrider007]

Keep digging

Explain please.

 

[Google]

Keep digging

Because you're the one acting like a tool?

 

[K' Dash]

I like my PSP Go.

I'm sorry so many of you are dumb enough to buy one.

Fixed.

Saying that people can't afford one is stupid, why would I want to buy the INFERIOR version?, 3000 is better and cheaper.

 

[Google]

Saying that people can't afford one is stupid, why would I want to buy the INFERIOR version?, 3000 is better and cheaper.

Why wouldn't you want a model that is more portable, better looking, with internal memory and with better hardware?

Because it's more expensive, and the games cant be bought for $5?

 

[elrechazado]

Because you're the one acting like a tool?

A shovel, ideally.

 

[Raistlin]

lawl at the people defending this crap

worse version of a handheld at twice the price. what a steal

Could not disagree more.

Go is so much better than the regular model, it's ridiculous.

 

[K' Dash]

Why wouldn't you want a model that is more portable, better looking, with internal memory and with better hardware?

Because it's more expensive, and the games cant be bought for $5?

To me PSP Go is the ugliest bitch of all portables, even the 1000 looks sexier, games can be bought online too with 1000, 2000 and 3000, besides 3000 plays ALL MY UMD's and the games that I've bought on PSN, I already have a BIG ASS memory stick that I got for real cheap, if it was >$150 (how it should be) I'd *think* about getting one.

3000 looking better thatn Go is IMHO, a matter of taste.

 

[RuGalz]

People always say they want options.

When they are given options, they hate it. The irony.

 

[WrathOfOtaibah]

I doubt millions of fence sitters couldn't wait to get a hold of a PSP revision with a smaller screen, lower battery life, and a download only service.

It isn't about money, it is about value. With the PSP Go, you are simply paying more for less. You have to be suffering from a severe case of Stockholm Syndrome to justify it.

 

[Gantz]

Wow Sonyland must be in an uproar :lol

 

[The Faceless Master]

lots of angry uk pspgo buyers who bought it at full price incoming

oh, i get it... sarcasm...

 

[Google]

It isn't about money, it is about value.

Value is different things to different people.

Thus why people are able to purchase Ford Mondeo's for $70,000 with a Jaguar badge on the front.

 

[Cirekiller]

To me PSP Go is the ugliest bitch of all portables, even the 1000 looks sexier, games can be bought online too with 1000, 2000 and 3000, besides 3000 plays ALL MY UMD's and the games that I've bought on PSN, I already have a BIG ASS memory stick that I got for real cheap, if it was >$150 (how it should be) I'd *think* about getting one.

3000 looking better thatn Go is IMHO, a matter of taste.

ok..instead of complaining about it, why not just stick with the older models. Like people said b4, no1 is forcing you to buy this, Sony isn't discontinuing the older models. They are offering a more expensive PSP for people who want one. I got traded in my PSP2000 for one because I can put it in my pocket without half of it sticking out, and for the blue tooth.

 

[WrathOfOtaibah]

Value is different things to different people.

Thus why people are able to purchase Ford Mondeo's for $70,000 with a Jaguar badge on the front.

They have a poor sense of value too.

Although you could argue that Jaguar is a premier brand rather than a Ford. This isn't the case with the PSP Go vs. PSP

 

[jman2050]

Redundant product doesn't sell? I'm shocked.