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[LordOfChaos]

To think they took staff off of ME and ended up with two mediocre games.

I actually somewhat enjoyed Andromeda, I was more just pissed off that it killed a mid term future for the franchise, and from what I hear Anthem is worse.

 

[Manstructiclops]

This looks like a WW2 anti-asian propaganda poster

LOL holy shit.

 

[angelic]

I'm surprised, she gave them great advice to make the perfect game. what happened?

Imagine the few non-beta male's faces at bioware when this harpie turned up on a red carpet. A device hasn't been created that can measure that amount of eye-rolling.

 

[michaelius]

Imagine the few non-beta male's faces at bioware when this harpie turned up on a red carpet. A device hasn't been created that can measure that amount of eye-rolling.

Nah being non progressive at such woke corporation probably is more similar to 1984 where you pretend to agree and keep your thought to yourself.

 

[angelic]

Nah being non progressive at such woke corporation probably is more similar to 1984 where you pretend to agree and keep your thought to yourself.

Imagine the internal communications. Probably along these lines:

 

[Norse]

Crackdown 3 bombed harder than Sea of Thieves it seems, 2nd week and its at #26.

2 games that are on game pass. You don't need to physically own these games so I'd imagine that has an effect on actual sales numbers. Why is that something you don't seem to understand? Or do you and would rather blindly attack Xbox exclusives for a cheap thrill?

According to the charts, anthem and crackdown 3 campaign are #3&4 most played games on Xbox currently so bombs away I guess.

 

[DForce]

2 games that are on game pass. You don't need to physically own these games so I'd imagine that has an effect on actual sales numbers. Why is that something you don't seem to understand? Or do you and would rather blindly attack Xbox exclusives for a cheap thrill?

According to the charts, anthem and crackdown 3 campaign are #3&4 most played games on Xbox currently so bombs away I guess.

You're looking at it the wrong way.

Microsoft is not putting these games on game pass just for people to play the single player, they want a lot of them to stick around for the multiplayer.

Microsoft offered Game Pass for $2 this month, so gamers were no doubt going to try it out. If the multiplayer has a low player base and the sales are low, then it was a failure.

On most played Xbox games, Crackdown 3: Campaign is currently 28th and the multiplayer is not even in the top 50. If the NPD numbers are low and the multiplayer fails to pick up steam, then this is no doubt a failure.

 

[demigod]

2 games that are on game pass. You don't need to physically own these games so I'd imagine that has an effect on actual sales numbers. Why is that something you don't seem to understand? Or do you and would rather blindly attack Xbox exclusives for a cheap thrill?

According to the charts, anthem and crackdown 3 campaign are #3&4 most played games on Xbox currently so bombs away I guess.

You're in a sales thread, even if anthem and crackdown are 3&4 on games played, it doesn't mean crackdown made as much as anthem did via sales. Gamepass =/= sales.

 

[Grinchy]

Damn, even Fallout 76 (another online-only game) did twice these sales. That does not look good, but it's probably a harsh lesson that needed to be learned.

 

[Norse]

You're in a sales thread, even if anthem and crackdown are 3&4 on games played, it doesn't mean crackdown made as much as anthem did via sales. Gamepass =/= sales.

My point was that the sales numbers for a game pass game would naturally be effected due to that fact you wouldn't need to buy the game at retail.

 

[NickFire]

On the one hand, outside of Switch I have not bought a disc copy in who knows how long. On the other hand, if Fallout 76 outsold this at launch, then yikes.

 

[Norse]

You're looking at it the wrong way.

Microsoft is not putting these games on game pass just for people to play the single player, they want a lot of them to stick around for the multiplayer.

Microsoft offered Game Pass for $2 this month, so gamers were no doubt going to try it out. If the multiplayer has a low player base and the sales are low, then it was a failure.

On most played Xbox games, Crackdown 3: Campaign is currently 28th and the multiplayer is not even in the top 50. If the NPD numbers are low and the multiplayer fails to pick up steam, then this is no doubt a failure.

Sea of thieves and crackdown 3 physical sales will be effected by the fact both can be played on game pass without purchasing a physical copy. That's the point I was trying to make.

 

[demigod]

My point was that the sales numbers for a game pass game would naturally be effected due to that fact you wouldn't need to buy the game at retail.

And my point was Crackdown 3 sold less than Sea of Thieves, a game which was also on game pass.

 

[DForce]

Sea of thieves and crackdown 3 physical sales will be effected by the fact both can be played on game pass without purchasing a physical copy. That's the point I was trying to make.

You're trying to say that sales figures don't really matter because they're on Game Pass. That's really not a logical argument.

 

[Norse]

And my point was Crackdown 3 sold less than Sea of Thieves, a game which was also on game pass.

True true, but to compare the physical sales numbers of game pass titles vs normal retail titles is comparing apples to oranges imo.

 

[Norse]

You're trying to say that sales figures don't really matter because they're on Game Pass. That's really not a logical argument.

Oh they matter, just comparing them to normal retail games seems illogical imo.

 

[DForce]

Oh they matter, just comparing them to normal retail games seems illogical imo.

The game just needs to have a certain level of success in retail because the user base for Wrecking Zone seems to be very low.

So if the game failed as a Game Pass title, then they're going to need retail\digital sales to recovery their losses and this doesn't seem to be the case so far.

 

[Woo-Fu]

People ignoring the trend towards digital seem to have an agenda of sorts.
People ignoring Access and Access Premier seem to have an agenda of sorts.

It's interesting how Anthem became the posterchild for so many things in the industry that consumers are fed up with. While I think this reaction is long overdue, I don't think Anthem is particularly worse than any other examples. Be interesting to see what happens with Division 2's release.

Hopefully EA and Bioware stay the course on this one, the core gameplay is quite enjoyable.

 

[ethomaz]

You're looking at it the wrong way.

Microsoft is not putting these games on game pass just for people to play the single player, they want a lot of them to stick around for the multiplayer.

Microsoft offered Game Pass for $2 this month, so gamers were no doubt going to try it out. If the multiplayer has a low player base and the sales are low, then it was a failure.

On most played Xbox games, Crackdown 3: Campaign is currently 28th and the multiplayer is not even in the top 50. If the NPD numbers are low and the multiplayer fails to pick up steam, then this is no doubt a failure.

There are not.

Crackdown 3 campaign is the #24 most played in US (dropped 2 positions compared with last week) and Anthem #36.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/most-played/games/xbox?gamecapabilities=capabilityxboxenhanced

You're in a sales thread, even if anthem and crackdown are 3&4 on games played, it doesn't mean crackdown made as much as anthem did via sales. Gamepass =/= sales.

His claim is not accurate... CD3 is the 24th most played game in US last week... two positions drop compared with launch week.

Anthem is #36 in US.

 

[DForce]

There are not.

Crackdown 3 campaign is the #24 most played in US (dropped 2 positions compared with last week).

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/most-played/games/xbox?gamecapabilities=capabilityxboxenhanced

Anthem we will know Saturday.

Yes, it's #24 but multiplayer is nowhere to be seen on this chart. This means the lightly hood of resubscribing to game pass for Crackdown 3 is very low.

 

[ethomaz]

UK most played...

#15 Crackdown 3
#26 Anthem

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/store/most-played/games/xbox?gamecapabilities=capabilityxboxenhanced

 

[ethomaz]

Yes, it's #24 but multiplayer is nowhere to be seen on this chart. This means the lightly hood of resubscribing to game pass for Crackdown 3 is very low.

Wait did you change the 3&4? I really read that before.

 

[Fragment]

On consoles I can understand why this number may have some weight.

But on PC this means nothing. I personally haven't purchased a boxed PC game in probably 20 years.

I didn't buy Anthem and I won't.. currently playing through Dragon Age Origins again this time as a Blood Mage, god dammit BioWare get your shit together.

 

[YayNJ]

I havent bought a physical copy of a XBOX or PS4 game for years. Last physical I bought on anything was Zelda on the switch when it first came out.

As the poster above me mentioned - who the hell buys physical PC games this century?

I'm sure there's many like me. There's a very good reason the music charts are starting to combine sales charts.

 

[Verdanth]

Ill say it: Andromeda is better than Anthem.

 

[Xenon]

Who buys a physical copy of an online only game?

 

[Ogbert]

The game is so bad. So so bad. Very very very bad.

 

[Norse]

So the charts are in, seems Anthem has jumped on the charts at a pretty good place taking number 3 from Crackdown, which has held steady by only dropping 1 rank to #4. The question is will Anthem hold on to this ranking or drop a significant amount after a so many controversies surrounding it.

Apex legends has passed Fornite and continues climbing. Clearly EA's clock is right twice a day despite constantly being off with their IPS crashing, but it seems like this MAY be a long-term hit.

Crackdown 3's heavily advertised gimmick MP mode with cloud destruction dropped several places to 34 from the the low 20's. While the Single-Player has held steady and has only dropped one place from #3 to #4 primarily because of the new release of Anthem, whom due to negative reception may drop on next weeks charts. This shows that people playing Crackdown 3 are not too interested in the Cloud Destruction multiplayer, and are more interested in the super-powered action packed, gun down open world gameplay of CD3's campaign.

Forza Horizon 4 is still holding top 10 after all this time with a slight drop to #9. Forza Horizon 3 was actually below (above?) #10 this time last year which shows 4 has held slightly more interest.

Curiously, Super Bomberman R has jumped up the charts slightly, seems this fun little arcade style game had it's share of fans. It's also currently on sale for an affordable price.

BattleField V continues to drop down the charts several places as interest in the game continues to drop. Along with Shadow of the Tomb Raider.

Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege has been increasing and has been getting a lot of positive word of mouth across the net. It's becoming a favorite among Xbox One gamers.

First-Party wise it seems SP Crackdown 3 dominates, followed by Forza. This may be a good lesson for Microsoft to come up with more cool SP games and/or campaigns in the future.

 

[VertigoOA]

Anthem's ranking won't be accurate until this Friday. The daily Xbox sales charts are not dailies... they're cumalitive weeklies from that day to next week same day. That's only considering ea premier users for the 10hr trial and maybe two days or release... maybe

Those rankings are most interesting when you remove the gamespass and f2p software.

 

[ethomaz]

The cart ahead is...

Heavy innacurate... I don't know why people continue posting it.

The methodology is innacurate.

 

[VertigoOA]

The cart ahead is...

Heavy innacurate... I don't know why people continue posting it.

The methodology is innacurate.

The weekly charts are an excellent metric of the us market for games actually played. Whereas twitch is a metric of players NOT playing. It's better than nothing.

THise daily charts Voost is postings looks like complete bullshit tho

 

[JoeyWestSide]

Feb 23 in the UK (So on the 22nd in the US). they've had only a few hours to track that approx 43k physical copies sold in the uk from when we have had the chance to buy it. Not even weekend tracking results. Not bad.

 

[VertigoOA]

Feb 23 in the UK. So on the 22nd in the US they've had only a few hours to track that approx 43k physical copies sold in the uk from when we have had the chance to buy it. Not bad.

Andromeda came out on a Tuesday. Anthem on Friday... So fake news.

Yea, this is gonna outsell every previous Mass Effect debut.

UK charts lol.

Games journalism lol

 

[Voost Kain]

The weekly charts are an excellent metric of the us market for games actually played. Whereas twitch is a metric of players NOT playing. It's better than nothing.

THse daily charts Voost is postings looks like complete bullshit tho

I'm not posting daily charts (Where did you even get that from?), they are accurate weekly charts, MS charts aren't updated accurately and are displayed by completely different metrics than the ones on Xbox.com. Etho was already told this by three different users, he's a troll

 

[VertigoOA]

I'm not posting daily charts (Where did you even get that from?), they are accurate weekly charts, MS charts aren't updated accurately and are displayed by completely different metrics than the ones on Xbox.com. Etho was already told this by three different users, he's a troll

The weekly charts on the website and app are the same.

The official most popular chart is definitely reliable but I would say take a look at it Saturday or Sunday to see anthem's standing.

NBA2k being the most popular game people actually paid money for is fascinating. Rainbow six and destiny probably are the most expensive.

And resident evil 2 never broke into the top 10

Really goes to show you that despite the reception of kingdom warts 3 and remake 2... not many cared to play them

 

[VertigoOA]

The weekly charts on the website and app are the same. And that website you have been sourcing gives zero info from where they get their stats... it's bullshit

The official most popular chart is definitely reliable but I would say take a look at it Saturday or Sunday to see anthem's standing.

NBA2k being the most popular game people actually paid money for is fascinating. Rainbow six and destiny probably are the most expensive.

And resident evil 2 never broke into the top 10

Really goes to show you that despite the reception of kingdom warts 3 and remake 2... not many cared to play them

 

[DForce]

Wait did you change the 3&4? I really read that before.

I just changed the rankings to 24 because i miscounted the rankings on MS website.

 

[ROMhack]

I don't have the figures on hand but UK physical game sales have absolutely plummeted in recent years. I don't know how much we can read into it.

 

[ethomaz]

I don't have the figures on hand but UK physical game sales have absolutely plummeted in recent years. I don't know how much we can read into it.

That is most recent we have...

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2019-01-02-uk-video-games-market-is-now-80-percent-digital

That means when it comes to AAA releases, digital sales only account for around 25 per cent of the games sold. However, that percentage is getting bigger. Last year, 20% of FIFA 18's sales were digital.

It increasing but a way slower pace than US for example... of course online only games have bigger % digital but I can't see something drastic... avg. for AAA games should be a bit over 25% today? I don't know but people guessing 50%, 60%, etc are really overestimating digital ratio.

UK physical is way cheaper than digital yet.

 

[Ixiah]

Can someone explain to me how the Chucklefucks who push for early releases of Games arent getting fired or at least get a nope, considering this has happend so many Times now, even an Amoeba would have learned by now ?

 

[UltimateUnknown]

As someone who lives in the UK, there is no way I can believe that digital sales are somehow higher than physical sales. You basically get robbed if you buy games digitally. AAA games often sell for like £50-55 digitally, while the same games from retailers can be found between £35-45. It's a pretty massive disparity and I have no clue why digital prices are so atrociously high.

 

[Scopa]

I don't know man, everytime i see this game i can see some of AS "advice" on the female character designs at least.

That looks like Long Duk Dong from Sixteen Candles.