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Umm...after ep 8, Claymore deserves it's own thread..

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Index
1.What is Claymore?
2. Yoma and Halfs?...
3. Becoming hybrid
4. How does it all come together?
5. Sides
6.How does the "organization" work/Suspicions?
8.Current Episode
9.Current Chapter

1.What is it?: Claymore is a manga published in monthly Shonen Jump by Norihiro Yagi.

The story is set in a fictional world with medieval technology. Most people live in towns or cities separated from each other and at the time there does not seem to be any large political or regional governments.

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It centers around the life of Clare(Kurea) and Raki. Clare was presumably the only one who survived a attack from a Yoma in which she lost both her parents. Sequentially the Yoma took a liking to her and took her along with it. One day a Claymore came to town and vanquished the Yoma which had been traveling with the girl. Turned on by the look of her saviour "Teresa", Clare took a liking to her and followed her around even jumping off a cliff in order for Teresa to take her in from the abuse she'd suffered.
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Some time later a group of bandits raided a town where Teresa had left Clare to start a new life and Teresa intervened. Killing the bandits which is deemed a unforgivable crime by the "organization" to kill humans. Several other Claymores were sent after Teresa to kill her but Teresa had the position of number "1" out of all Claymores and could not be defeated. A epic battle took place with a specific Claymore by the same of "Priscilla" and Teresa let down her guard to show mercy and was killed as Priscilla "awakened". Clare stumbled into town and encountered a mysterious man in black who asked if she wanted revenge. Clare grew up and encountered the same situation with a boy by the name of Raki and so the story starts.
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2.Claymore? Yoma?: Nobody knows for sure where the Yoma came from but the have for the longest time been with humans. They have a particularly nasty habit of eating on human organs as their diet and can make themselves look like those they've consumed. They are the antagonists in the story.

Claymore are for the most part female only. Before male Claymores existed but they were stopped being "made" since when they used their power it led to feeling of lust and ecstasy which resulted in them going out of control quickly and "awakening". They all have silver eyes due to hybridization and require very little food to survive. Because of this they are given the Claymore name and that of "White eyed witches" by regular folk. . They are also immune to most extreme conditions and can heal quickly from a wound by releasing their "Yoki" a.k.a their spiritual energy. They are given the name Claymore due to the well...claymores they carry.
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3.Becoming a Hybrid: In order to become a Claymore one must take into their body either the blood of a Yoma or in the case of Clare the blood of Clare making her 1/4 hybrid not 1/2. The transformation can be very painful and as such most Claymores are made from people who have fallen on bad luck. Usually those who had loved ones killed by a Yoma become Claymores as they have nothing left. One would assume that they would be respected but in reality most people revile them for being half "monster".
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4.How does it all work?: Humans cannot distinguish between Yoma or real people and as such are regulated to asking the Claymores for help. Typically a Claymore is sent to the area requiring assistance and dispatches of the Yoma. Afterwards the mysterious man in black who is part of the "organization" will come and collect a fee.
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5.So it's just Claymore vs Yoma?: Not quite. It is discovered that one someone "awakens" i.e. When a Claymore uses to much of their Yoma powers they cannot revert back to human form and become an awakened being. A merge of the Yoma and Human aspects. Typically they acquire monstrous forms and as all Yoma hunt humans. Both males and females have somewhat of an "orgasmic" affect when getting close to releasing(yeah...) and some do it on purpose for this effect. Unfortunately those who get caught up in it lose control. Awakened ones are very powerful and typically require higher level Claymores to take them down.
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6.What's this "Organization"?: Just that. They are a mysterious group of men who reign over the Claymore and send them on missions and collect the fee afterwards. It is a secret society and they are never seen by most. The man in black who confronts Clare as a child is shown to surprisingly never have aged over the time she has become an adult. Suspiciously he covers his eyes and mouth and seems to always know where any Claymore is.

The rest of the organization is similar they all have non human features that resemble those of Yoma very closely and weark all black usually covering most of their bodies.

Town that do not pay the fee or are short of the amount by the organization mysteriously are attacked by large numbers of Yoma and wiped out. Even if somehow they rebuild that town will never receive assistance again.

For the group which claims to have human interests at heart such behaviors is suspicious. Likewise the rules they set that "no claymore may harm a human" has led to horrible situations. Such as Claymore being sexually abused or taunted without having any means of retaliating. Any Claymore disobeying this rule is quickly hunted down by their own kind and killed.

Suspicion has arisen amongst many of the strongest Claymores and the Clare herself and as such many of them have deserted and are being hunted by those still loyal to the organization.

8.Wait! Wait! How do Claymore fight?: Claymore are given the name claymore for the swords they carry. Each sword is unique not physically but in that each has a symbol corresponding to the power of that individual Claymore. Alternatively since Claymore are half Yoma they can utilize Yoma powers. When this is done veins and muscles contract and their strength grows enormously.There are two stages to a Claymore:
1) Base: This is the initial stage and the one most Claymore fight in all the time. They look perfectly human and utilize their swords to deal wit foes.

2) Second: This is the most powerful form of a normal Claymore as they channel Yoma powers and increase strength, speed and recovery. Teresa only used this form once due to the enormous amount of power she held and was regarded as the strongest due to only having to use her base form.
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3) Awakened: Nobody fights in this form save those who became awakened and ran away. Their forms are usually monstrous and they can change back from human form to released at any time. No normal Claymore can match these and none try to attain that power as it causes one to lose their sanity. If a Claymore detects they are reaching their limit they will usually ask a fellow Claymore to slay them while they are still human.
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Interestingly it has been discovered that one can surpass their limit and yet still revert to normal form. However this requires great willpower and is not guaranteed to work again.
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8.Current episode: Claymore 13
Current Manga chapter: Claymore 73


9.Releases: Claymore manga usually comes out on monthly but recently is has been found out that Claymore will become a WEEKLY release as it has gained popularity and the shutting down on monthly Jump. The Anime has no set time as of yet. Currently it is only scheduled for 26 episodes but if enough support is given it could become another Naruto, Bleach or One Piece.

Warning: All though this is a Shonen it is a surprisingly dark series. After I watched all 13 episodes so far and all 73 chapters today at times it really made me feel sick with the dismemberments. This is such a bad thing though as it really tugs at your heart strings but if you're like me and never seen something such as Berserk take it slow!

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(Originally posted by crushdance [sorry konex])
 
Please tell me this thing's going 50 eps or more...

Awesome how Priscilla didn't try to eat Clare cos she's not human but Clare didn't know that yet
 
Cloudy said:
Please tell me this thing's going 50 eps or more...

Awesome how Priscilla didn't try to eat Clare cos she's not human but Clare didn't know that yet
Have you started reading the manga yet? It's been translated up to vol. 12.
 
Akia said:
I posted this in the other thread.

This episode was freaking crazy. wtf total. this show rox.
Even tho I knew Teresa was going to die I was still hoping she wouldn't =(
well I'm off to read the manga, I can't until Clare kicks some Awakened ass!
 
Just finished reading 12+ vols of the manga.
and...OMFG! I can't believe people aren't talking about this more! It's so badass, way better that Bleach and the current naruto!
btw...It's been announced due to Claymore's recent popularity it will now appear in Shounen Jump Weekly along side Naruto and Bleach but remain a monthly release.
 
The series so far have been reall good, it feels like a shounen version of Berserk. Although I don't really like some of the story aspects like the Claymore's logic and being an organization with power ranks and so on, but that's standart with shounen titles.
 
Cloudy said:
Please tell me this thing's going 50 eps or more...

Awesome how Priscilla didn't try to eat Clare cos she's not human but Clare didn't know that yet

I think this is going to be about 26 episodes? They don't have all that material to keep going on without making shit up (which I really hope they do not).

Was the stuff in the spoiler your opinion, or was it stated in the episode?
I ask because I haven't watched episode 8 yet (group i follow hasn't subbed it yet), but that's not the reason given in the manga (I'd be pretty surprised if they changed that for the anime given how closely they followed the manga until now).
 
Guys, i saw the first ep. and thought it was kinda weak... but due to the art style, I was kinda comparing it a bit too much to Berserk, which makes almost everything else look weak. Does this show get better? I may give it another chance since there seems to be a lot of love for it here.
 
A great show, episode 8 surprised the hell out of me....I'm just afraid this might turn into a "tee hee hee I read the manga I don't wanna spoil it for you guys but just you wait something cool's gonna happen!"

vas_a_morir said:
Guys, i saw the first ep. and thought it was kinda weak... but due to the art style, I was kinda comparing it a bit too much to Berserk, which makes almost everything else look weak. Does this show get better? I may give it another chance since there seems to be a lot of love for it here.

Yes, yes it does. One should never judge a show just by its first episode. I mean, this season Lucky Star had probably the worst first episode in existence, but so far every episode after that has been great :lol .

Claymore isn't really "Berserk with women", I think it's closer to "Mai-Hime with murder" :)
 
Yes, Claymore manga is one of the best so far. The only thing claymore has in common with Hime is that both shows have women that fight. Claymore is much better.
 
clearacell said:
Yes, yes it does. One should never judge a show just by its first episode. I mean, this season Lucky Star had probably the worst first episode in existence, but so far every episode after that has been great :lol .

Claymore isn't really "Berserk with women", I think it's closer to "Mai-Hime with murder" :)


...with a hint of Noir.
 
LuCkymoON said:
Just finished reading 12+ vols of the manga.
It's so badass, way better that (....) naruto!

What isn't better than Naruto?

And yeah. it's awesome so far, I'm really enjoying this season. But if episode 8 - quality episodes make animes deserve their own thread this is gonna turn into anime-age pretty soon with all the quality shows this season.
 
Lain said:
I think this is going to be about 26 episodes? They don't have all that material to keep going on without making shit up (which I really hope they do not).

Was the stuff in the spoiler your opinion, or was it stated in the episode?
I ask because I haven't watched episode 8 yet (group i follow hasn't subbed it yet), but that's not the reason given in the manga (I'd be pretty surprised if they changed that for the anime given how closely they followed the manga until now).

It's his opinon. Episode 8 basicly follows the exact text in the mana (well the trans I read. 10sigh rocks... also people read the first 3 the chaps of volume 13 they rock hard).

From the episode Priscilla did not eat Clare beacuse she felt Clare was not worth the effort/would not satisfy her craving (Clare is normal here. Teresa says so herself. As Ilena says in episode 7, Teresa has the greatest ability to sense Yoma energy. She basicly has the Sharingan)

I hope that when the anime catches up with the manga they stop and wait. It will be a painfull wait, but man it will be worth it.

This is a really good series and I can't wait for the next 6ish (maybe more?) episodes.
 
Fireblend said:
And yeah. it's awesome so far, I'm really enjoying this season. But if episode 8 - quality episodes make animes deserve their own thread this is gonna turn into anime-age pretty soon with all the quality shows this season.


I agree, I'm still keeping up with at least 6+ shows this season and a couple from the last season's releases.
 
LuCkymoON said:
Just finished reading 12+ vols of the manga.
and...OMFG! I can't believe people aren't talking about this more! It's so badass, way better that Bleach and the current naruto!
btw...It's been announced due to Claymore's recent popularity it will now appear in Shounen Jump Weekly along side Naruto and Bleach but remain a monthly release.

What isn't? It's decent, not impressive at all but I guess I can see the appeal behind a "power-level" dramatic shounen with "Gunslinger Girl"-like protagonists and a gothic fantasy setting. I'm not following though, manga is easy to follow since I don't need to download 200mb episodes and I'm probably the most picky person on GAF when it comes to animation.

Anyway, I don't see how this could get published in Weekly Jump without being toned down...
 
Omnicent said:
It's his opinon. Episode 8 basicly follows the exact text in the mana (well the trans I read. 10sigh rocks... also people read the first 3 the chaps of volume 13 they rock hard).

From the episode Priscilla did not eat Clare beacuse she felt Clare was not worth the effort/would not satisfy her craving (Clare is normal here. Teresa says so herself. As Ilena says in episode 7, Teresa has the greatest ability to sense Yoma energy. She basicly has the Sharingan)

I hope that when the anime catches up with the manga they stop and wait. It will be a painfull wait, but man it will be worth it.

This is a really good series and I can't wait for the next 6ish (maybe more?) episodes.
I think the anime may take a hiatus at the 7 year time skip. This would be the perfect spot imho.

vas_a_morir said:
Guys, i saw the first ep. and thought it was kinda weak... but due to the art style, I was kinda comparing it a bit too much to Berserk, which makes almost everything else look weak. Does this show get better? I may give it another chance since there seems to be a lot of love for it here.

keep watching and you will see why it's loved. I can tell you tho it does not slow down, it keep getting better and better. =)

Lain said:
I think this is going to be about 26 episodes? They don't have all that material to keep going on without making shit up (which I really hope they do not).

Was the stuff in the spoiler your opinion, or was it stated in the episode?
I ask because I haven't watched episode 8 yet (group i follow hasn't subbed it yet), but that's not the reason given in the manga (I'd be pretty surprised if they changed that for the anime given how closely they followed the manga until now).
Believe me they have more than enough to go 50+ episodes
 
that wasnt a fitting way for someone as powerfull as Teresa to die... but yeah, I agree, there's a moment in every Anime where the sh*t gets gangsta, episode 8 was it.
 
Projenitor said:
that wasnt a fitting way for someone as powerfull as Teresa to die... but yeah, I agree, there's a moment in every Anime where the sh*t gets gangsta, episode 8 was it.
Hmm, those are spoilers, use the tags.
 
Teknopathetic said:
No it does not.
ITIAWTP


I stopped after 6. It's pretty shitty. Does it really get better? Does Raki improve to the point where I wouldn't prefer getting my skin torn off my face rather than watch a scene with him?
 
Rorschach said:
ITIAWTP


I stopped after 6. It's pretty shitty. Does it really get better? Does Raki improve to the point where I wouldn't prefer getting my skin torn off my face rather than watch a scene with him?
If you really want to know what happens to Raki:
Clare and Raki are forced to part ways after the next story arch, he really doesn't appear in the next arch (The Slashers) that much at all.

Fireblend said:
Hmm, those are spoilers, use the tags.

is it really a spoiler when it is about the current episode that's been out for almost a week?
 
Loved the whole arc they've had going to past few episodes. Teresa is such an awesome Claymore.

I'll admit that the first few episodes didn't really do much for me. They weren't terrible, just nothing too amazing. Every once in awhile there would be a cool fight scene, but nothing I really cared about. Until...
they started getting into Clare's past. The way they presented everything these past episodes has been awesome. Amazing how they built up Teresa's character so much in those few episodes.
 
LuCkymoON said:
is it really a spoiler when it is about the current episode that's been out for almost a week?

Well, a couple of people posting in the thread have stated they're not that far yet. It's only fair.
 
Projenitor said:
that wasnt a fitting way for someone as powerfull as Teresa to die... but yeah, I agree, there's a moment in every Anime where the sh*t gets gangsta, episode 8 was it.

Man you are in for a lot of surprises. Though what happned to
Teresa
was very surprising the first time I saw it happen. Just proves that no one is immune to death, possibly excluding Clare. Gives the manga/anime a realistic feel.

Also in that one episode (it was 5 or 6) with the bandits.....
I wonder the exact reason why they were vomiting (I know Teresa didn't have a scare. I'd guess claymore's frontal side stays in a messed up hybrid state).

Also LuCkymoON
Clare for only being #47 must be mad strong. She only awakened her limbs (arms and legs) and whooped Ligardes (the guy that killed Flora, Undine, Veronica, and Jean) like a rag doll. He could do nothing. Since she was just past her limit I'd guess she was around 80% awkaned..... so what the hell will be the other 20%. She probably couldn't beat Priscilla cause in volume 13 Rafella states that Isley actually got owned by Priscilla and became her general....... There is no way Alicia/Beth combo could beat her. Also that combo has a huge weakness. If someone gets past Alicia and kills Beth then that will be a problem. If Beth awakens along with her twin....

Also Miata (the girl with Clarice) is said to have the potential to be #1 (possibly better than Alicia), but she is unstable. I smell another Priscilla.
 
Best anime of the season, and right up there with Death Note in quality.

How many episodes will this be anyway?
 
Omnicent said:
Man you are in for a lot of surprises. Though what happned to
Teresa
was very surprising the first time I saw it happen. Just proves that no one is immune to death, possibly excluding Clare. Gives the manga/anime a realistic feel.

Also in that one episode (it was 5 or 6) with the bandits.....
I wonder the exact reason why they were vomiting (I know Teresa didn't have a scare. I'd guess claymore's frontal side stays in a messed up hybrid state).

Also LuCkymoON
Clare for only being #47 must be mad strong. She only awakened her limbs (arms and legs) and whooped Ligardes (the guy that killed Flora, Undine, Veronica, and Jean) like a rag doll. He could do nothing. Since she was just past her limit I'd guess she was around 80% awkaned..... so what the hell will be the other 20%. She probably couldn't beat Priscilla cause in volume 13 Rafella states that Isley actually got owned by Priscilla and became her general....... There is no way Alicia/Beth combo could beat her. Also that combo has a huge weakness. If someone gets past Alicia and kills Beth then that will be a problem. If Beth awakens along with her twin....

Also Miata (the girl with Clarice) is said to have the potential to be #1 (possibly better than Alicia), but she is unstable. I smell another Priscilla.
***manga spoilers***
Found it quite interesting how Clare partially awakens; she has been told by everyone up until that point that she is inefficient. As she partially awakens her body turns into an super efficient killing machine. I think at this point she may have surpassed Teresa, but it's hard to say since we have only seen Teresa use 10% of her power. Although Clare has been killing awakened beings for the past 7 years while hiding her yoki and she learned the two fastest sword techniques; Flora's Windcutter and Irene's Quick sword. Did you also noticed that Clare has fully absorbed Irene's fully awakened arm?
I'm very interested in what Riful said she found that could defeat Priscilla, I just can't think of a reason why she needs a claymore that can read/control Yoki to do it. (Clare or Galatea) Maybe she wants to find Rafaela, who as far as we know may not be dead. Just in hiding after killing Her awakened sister Lucera.
I think Clarice/Miata is another Teresa/Clare tragedy waiting to happen. Miata is going to be insane if she awakens with her state of mind. Maybe even become the boss after Priscilla is defeated?

Anzu said:
Best anime of the season, and right up there with Death Note in quality.

How many episodes will this be anyway?
It's gotta be more than 26; there's now way they could fit everything in without leaving open massive plot holes.
 
well if we're talking series that climaxed at 8, Gurren Lagann definitely deserves it's own thread.

this episode was awesome though.
i wasn't expecting the whole "awakening" thing
 
v1cious said:
well if we're talking series that climaxed at 8, Gurren Lagann definitely deserves it's own thread.

this episode was awesome though.
i wasn't expecting the whole "awakening" thing
Gurren lagann is badass and has it's own thread already. =)
 
LuCkymoON said:
If you really want to know what happens to Raki:
Clare and Raki are forced to part ways after the next story arch, he really doesn't appear in the next arch (The Slashers) that much at all.
:O Guess I'll give it another shot. Hopefully, the action gets better too. I already had the next ep, but couldn't force myself to watch it. Too many better things this season.



is it really a spoiler when it is about the current episode that's been out for almost a week?
I guess not normally, but if this thread was made to get new viewers involved, then yes.
 
LuCkymoON said:
***manga spoilers***
Found it quite interesting how Clare partially awakens; she has been told by everyone up until that point that she is inefficient. As she partially awakens her body turns into an super efficient killing machine. I think at this point she may have surpassed Teresa, but it's hard to say since we have only seen Teresa use 10% of her power. Although Clare has been killing awakened beings for the past 7 years while hiding her yoki and she learned the two fastest sword techniques; Flora's Windcutter and Irene's Quick sword. Did you also noticed that Clare has fully absorbed Irene's fully awakened arm?
I'm very interested in what Riful said she found that could defeat Priscilla, I just can't think of a reason why she needs a claymore that can read/control Yoki to do it. (Clare or Galatea) Maybe she wants to find Rafaela, who as far as we know may not be dead. Just in hiding after killing Her awakened sister Lucera.
I think Clarice/Miata is another Teresa/Clare tragedy waiting to happen. Miata is going to be insane if she awakens with her state of mind. Maybe even become the boss after Priscilla is defeated?


It's gotta be more than 26; there's now way they could fit everything in without leaving open massive plot holes.


She probably has not surpassed Teresa. Remember Irene's stated that with her arm Clare would only be able to use Qucik sword but it would only be about 50% as effective, which in retrosopect means if Clare had a 100% she would be better at than Irene. However Teresa fought the top 4 Claymore, they released yoma energy and she still beat them. Also remember tha Irene stated that Teresa was not at all serious as normal. Remember that cut she gave Priscilla.... If Teresa never meet Clare and the same events occured Priscilla would be headless.

Also Clare does not use the Qucik Sword anymore. Windcutter takes less energy, has the same power, slightly less speed, but is more accurate.
Same with Miria's new Mirage technique. Her base speed has increased so much that she doen't have to use Yoma energy bursts (is she had to use the added yoma energy, not much would be able to keep up).

Also yeah I noticed the arm. There is no seam. If you remember when Clare fought Ophelia, she tried to place her legs back on, but to no avail. Then a Yoma appeared and Ophelia being the crazy ass threw Raki to the Yoma. This caused Clare to release, which in turn had her legs fully heal.

She released when she whooped on Ligardes, so the arm probably truly became her own, not borrowed as Clare puts it.

I wonder the samething. I don't think it's to find Rafaela. Remember Rafaela went into hidding till the Teresa/Priscilla incident. She has surpressed her yoki energy just as Clare and the others. Also the organization had a meeting and they stated that Rafaela would probably not be able to find them (Clare, Galatea, etc). It probably works both ways.

Even though Rafaela is as strong as her sister, Priscilla would still whoop them, cause Isly is still with her.

I agree that Clarice and Miata will be a problem case. I actually see another..... it deals with Beth pushing her self to stay spirt linked to Alice, thus causing Beth to awaken.... so the new #1 and #2 are awaken. In the end there will be a way to fully awaken and revert back. It has been hinted at throughout the volumes. THough reversion is currently crude as it takes either twins or the life of another claymore (Jean using her last bit of energy to revert Clare).

There will definatly be more than 26 episodes, as everything up to volume 12 could fill that rather easily.
 
Rorschach said:
:O Guess I'll give it another shot. Hopefully, the action gets better too. I already had the next ep, but couldn't force myself to watch it. Too many better things this season.

Wait until you see episode 7. :D
 
I'm liking it so far. During eps 8 I said "well I did not see that coming" at least 3 times, so that's gotta count for something. :lol

I found the first few eps ok, but the last 4 or so have really improved the action and intriguing plot elements.
 
I just caught up after hearing the hype, and episode 8 was really awesome. I did not care for any of episodes up till 3, but the whole Clare's past is really good. Hopefully when they get back to the present, that kid following her around gets killed in some horrific way
 
Yeah, put me down as another who watched the first eight after reading this thread. i like the fact that just when i feel like i know what's going to happen or how it's going to happen, there's a twist and things go differently. Screw waiting for 9; i'm downloading the manga.
 
aoi tsuki said:
Yeah, put me down as another who watched the first eight after reading this thread. i like the fact that just when i feel like i know what's going to happen or how it's going to happen, there's a twist and things go differently. Screw waiting for 9; i'm downloading the manga.
I can tell you right now it doesn't slow down =)
 
Also include me as a person who's hooked after episode 8. I was caught in the "omgwtf" phase for a good amount of time after watching that episode. Like I said in the general anime thread, it's been a while since I've felt such a great atmosphere of... melancholy in an anime since Elfen Lied. Except this is epic.
 
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