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Uncharted 3 - E3 2011 Gameplay and Trailer
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mickcenary
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badcrumble said:
Ha. I made sure to include the word "stealth" in there, so, yes - I totally did see that shit and it was awesome. How could anyone NOT see it? Also, it seems to me as if Drake merely pulled the pin on a grenade already attached to the enemy's bandolier, which makes it even cooler.
badcrumble
Member
That would be cooler, but I think planting one of your own grenades would be a lot more balanced.mickcenary said:
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
From this picture, you can see that they're using *something*
And that something can do AA even around harshly lit areas, like around his fingers/arms etc, which they were never able to do using 2xMSAA in previous two games (as clearly evidenced by Jett's screen above).
So perhaps it is MLAA after all. To me this looks better than what they had before, and in the direct feed video jaggies never bothered me.
And that something can do AA even around harshly lit areas, like around his fingers/arms etc, which they were never able to do using 2xMSAA in previous two games (as clearly evidenced by Jett's screen above).
So perhaps it is MLAA after all. To me this looks better than what they had before, and in the direct feed video jaggies never bothered me.
The first trailer was. The one that showcases villain was direct buffer 720p, and it did look like it used MLAA.Mr_Brit said:
Gafapastismo
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Mr_Brit said:
I'm not sure, but I think that only did that in debut trailer (VGA trailer).
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Lord Error
Insane For Sony
^^ WOW, supersampled shot doesn't look that much better, especially if you take into account that gameplay screen suffers from terrible video compression *and* is recompressed using imgur.
KZ3 either has this very reduced or removed completely. Although, I'm almost 100% sure effects kicks in stronger during the more cinematic moments like melee kills etc. I think they did that because so many people complained about it with KZ2, and we all know GG are a bit reactionist.
MLAA uses edge detection pass first, then works only on those detected edges. Sony's implementation is better than any of its kind, true, but not for that reason.pixelbox said:
LBP2 still has object motion blur, it just looks different, and perhaps not as good when analyzed in still shots. In motion however, the effect looks pretty much the same.JaseC said:
KZ3 either has this very reduced or removed completely. Although, I'm almost 100% sure effects kicks in stronger during the more cinematic moments like melee kills etc. I think they did that because so many people complained about it with KZ2, and we all know GG are a bit reactionist.
Metalmurphy
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And lets not forget those are still screen caps from a video.
Quite impressive indeed.
Quite impressive indeed.
Kyaw said:
They're already compressed, they're caps from a compressed video.
Difference between my PNG pictures and the imgur output is minimal. You can also see in the holdup screen that fake DOF has been added to the press pictures, but stuff like that is par for the course. The comparison was primarily used to take a look at the image quality of the game.nelsonroyale
Member
Mr_Brit said:
Hmm, multiplayer might not be a good reference point though...
SP graphics>>>>>multiplayer graphics
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Interesting, but maybe inconsequential, because they could be using different (worse) solution for multiplayer. Also, MLAA can be tweaked so maybe they tweaked it different to better suit their visual direction. I think it works great for them, whatever they're using, you can see how good it is in SP direct feed video.Mr_Brit said:
True, it looks like they have some cascaded shadowmap solution in place, and best of all it doesn't look blocky at all.NBtoaster said:
UC3 has dynamic animation and water (probably sand too) tech that sets it apart from anything I can think of. They also seem to have some kind of special GI lighting solution for desert scenes which looks very impressive.BeeDog said:
SolidSnakex
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Edit: arleady posted.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Los Angeles Times article about preparing the E3 demo and the trailer:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-games-uncharted-20110607,0,213967.story
Of all things there, something odd caught my attention:
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-games-uncharted-20110607,0,213967.story
Of all things there, something odd caught my attention:
Why would they have something like this when it first two games it was just a fade out / fade in to the beginning of the scene? I thought the whole idea about simple fadeout was to not drill it in that the character just 'died', but to rather wave that away.
They seriously need to find a way to upgrade whatever they have for AA because it makes the game look fugly IMHO.
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8628/uc3e32011gameplaydemoav.png
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8628/uc3e32011gameplaydemoav.png
MoonsaultSlayer
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Maybe (hopefully) it's just for E3? Like.. if you die, you get a game over screen, game goes back to main menu and next person plays? Oh wait... no SP at E3, huh? Damn. Behind closed doors?Lord Error said:
Metalmurphy
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Norml said:
U2 had similar problems in screenshots, then everyone played it and didn't complain.
nelsonroyale
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Norml said:
yep looks amazing....! Wait what??
Chuck Norris
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Santa Monica's MLAA solution was one of the last things they implemented IIRC. It looked kinda jaggy 6 months before
I'm sure UC3 will be cleaner at release
I'm sure UC3 will be cleaner at release
AgentChris
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FUUUUU.Geoff Keighley Twitter said:
dragonflys545
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AgentChris said:
I need that freaking BETA TOMORROW!
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Deleted member 8095
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This game looks so fantastic and I'm so glad my fiancee just said, "I can't wait to watch you play that" while they were showing it on G4.
NBtoaster said:
Ah, I see. Thought as much.
Lord Error said:
Right. I haven't played much of the final game, I'll admit, so perhaps it was just lacking in the beta.
That's another possibility as opposed to simply reducing the amount of samples because of SPU stress.
Chuck Norris said:
Yeah, prior to that it was using 2xMSAA.
Self_Destructive
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It's obvious ND have a custom edge filter in place...whether it's MLAA or some other form of AA. I'm pretty sure though that what they have in place right now is probably temporary and they are waiting till they finalize everything else before they tweak the engine and perhaps alter their custom AA method.
Maybe they need to get everything in the game effect and content-wise before they will know how much overhead they have before they will focus on things like the AA algorithm.
Either way though, that direct feed footage is extremely sharp and crisp. I like that.
Maybe they need to get everything in the game effect and content-wise before they will know how much overhead they have before they will focus on things like the AA algorithm.
Either way though, that direct feed footage is extremely sharp and crisp. I like that.
nelsonroyale
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Snipes424 said:It was my vote for mustache of the show.
But Arne when are we going to see this footage I hear rumblings about with the cargo plane? The guy on the live Bombcast was amazed by it and so was Geoff Keighley. I want to be amazed too
You wan to be ruined for one of the best parts of the game?
I am on black out now apart from trailers
pharmboy044
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Dude, why spoil yourself of this awesome gameplay before the game comes out?Snipes424 said:It was my vote for mustache of the show.
But Arne when are we going to see this footage I hear rumblings about with the cargo plane? The guy on the live Bombcast was amazed by it and so was Geoff Keighley. I want to be amazed too
Trailers are the worst at spoiling the game for you. Here's a helpful tip, avoid all footage of the game.nelsonroyale said:
Personally, I'm currently on a media blackout for UC3 and I'm actually debating not playing the beta so I can go in fresh when the game comes out.
MalboroRed
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Lord Error said:From this picture, you can see that they're using *something*
And that something can do AA even around harshly lit areas, like around his fingers/arms etc, which they were never able to do using 2xMSAA in previous two games (as clearly evidenced by Jett's screen above).
So perhaps it is MLAA after all. To me this looks better than what they had before, and in the direct feed video jaggies never bothered me.
The first trailer was. The one that showcases villain was direct buffer 720p, and it did look like it used MLAA.
Probably not MLAA.
MalboroRed
Banned
Cyberia said:
Simulated ocean! >:0
I haven't been watching every since piece of media, but from what I gathered from the direct feed video:
-The AK kind of sounds weak right now...
-The grenade melee kill was pretty awesome. Although I'm hoping that if this makes it into multiplayer, the dying player won't be able to control their character and steer themselves in for a suicide bomb.
-Drake's movement seems a little weird? Probably just the swaying boat though.
-It's really damn hard to swim under water with freestyle. He should be using breast stroke when not on the surface.
-The lighting is great. So is the water. Both of these work really really well together in the beginning when Drake is still running around on deck, and the light hits the thin layer of water that Drake is running on.
-Did blindfire accuracy go back up?
-The AK kind of sounds weak right now...
-The grenade melee kill was pretty awesome. Although I'm hoping that if this makes it into multiplayer, the dying player won't be able to control their character and steer themselves in for a suicide bomb.
-Drake's movement seems a little weird? Probably just the swaying boat though.
-It's really damn hard to swim under water with freestyle. He should be using breast stroke when not on the surface.
-The lighting is great. So is the water. Both of these work really really well together in the beginning when Drake is still running around on deck, and the light hits the thin layer of water that Drake is running on.
-Did blindfire accuracy go back up?
Metroid-Squadron
Banned
Nah, it's just that one is a projected shadow (can be any shape you like, blurry or sharp) while Drake's shadow is a regular sharp shadow.NBtoaster said:
It's called lightmapping.Lord Error said:
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Not quite. If you watch the video, you can see that his shadow there is not completely sharp, like it was when the light source was closer to him earlier in the video. Well, whatever it is, it looks better and less blocky than what they had before.Metroid-Squadron said:
Like static lightmap? No, it's not that at all. It looks like a single bounce GI and it makes characters appear lit from below, from the reflection of the sand. Probably a shader simulation of some kind, but it's very effective.
Maybe, or maybe it's something like what it was in PoP:Sand of Time where it says, "Wait, no, it didn't happened that way...".MoonsaultSlayer said:
Cyberia said:
I remember seeing that water in the sea and thinking that they probably had the boat set up slightly off kilter to simulate the visual effect of a moving ocean, but never did I think that the ocean the boat was on would but truly simulated, or that the water sloshing back and forth in the swimming pool was real time simulated and not pre canned.
Amazing.
JaseC said:
I don't know, MLAA didn't work all that well with Killzone 3. Whatever the case, I really hope that ND gets the AA stuff sorted by release, there are a lot sharp pixels and edges in the footage we've seen so far.
But under estimated Naughty Dog is a fools game.
Metroid-Squadron
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Lightmaps can simulate global illumination. Take a look at what Lightmass can do (UDK) or even Uncharted 2.Lord Error said:
JCreasy
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^It's encouraging to hear that the tech team loves tackling really hard stuff and really pushes to accomplish hard stuff with the SPUs.
After seeing how well Battlefield 3 did at E3, I hope they feel challenged to try and pull off some of the amazing things we've seen in the Frostbite 2 engine in Uncharted 3, like those awesome explosions and overall portrayal of gun fire (smoke, muzzle flash, sparks, sound) in BF3. I know the BF3 is running on high-end PC hardware so that would be a great challenge for the Naughty Dog team to try and attempt with PS3.
If Naughty Dog can do some things in third-person what DICE is doing in BF3 first-person, OMG I would lose my mind.
After seeing how well Battlefield 3 did at E3, I hope they feel challenged to try and pull off some of the amazing things we've seen in the Frostbite 2 engine in Uncharted 3, like those awesome explosions and overall portrayal of gun fire (smoke, muzzle flash, sparks, sound) in BF3. I know the BF3 is running on high-end PC hardware so that would be a great challenge for the Naughty Dog team to try and attempt with PS3.
If Naughty Dog can do some things in third-person what DICE is doing in BF3 first-person, OMG I would lose my mind.
Giant Bomb was extremely impressed with the behind closed doors demo.
http://www.giantbomb.com/news/get-off-my-plane-a-look-at-uncharted-3s-e3-demo/3359/
http://www.giantbomb.com/news/get-off-my-plane-a-look-at-uncharted-3s-e3-demo/3359/