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What now Greenberg?
https://twitter.com/MajorYnos/status/734762723288879104
He is probably trolling Aaron tweet when he mentioned several PS3 exclusives together against Halo, but do we have numbers to compare how close it is?
Guys I love ND, I bought all their games day one and I have platinum trophies in the Uncharted series on Ps3 and on PS4
I did not write my thoughts here to troll or offend anyone; if I did, it wasnt my intention and I am sorry.
This is a sales thread and my only sin was that I expected more sales and larger attachment rate for Uncharted 4, a game that I supported by buying it day one.
And I expected more sales because the guys of ND deserve more.
Expressing that I expected more sales does not mean that ND did not do great with U4.
Without knowing the real cost and the total amount of money that Sony invested in the creation of U4 (it took ND 5-6 years to make) we cannot have a true estimation if 2 or 3 or 7 million in sales is enough.
This is how real life works unfortunately.
Again I am sorry for expressing my thoughts and I am off this thread.
I don't know how good you are at your job, but it is evident to me that your skills have not transferred well into analyzing video game sales. I welcome sales analysis from everyone. There are plenty in the SalesGAF that also have similar jobs as you, but unlike you they accept when they make mistakes.I really dont believe this
Please tell me that you are joking
I design software products for a living for a medical company (that run medical robotic analyzers) and as a manager I automatically think and calculate costs, customer base, probable sales, taxation, profits etch
I guess that is a sin huh?
And all of the attacks because I expected a bit more sales on the last part of one of the most known Sony franchises
I am thinking that I should have stayed away from the thread
Can you? If not, then your concern doesn't make any sense either.Can you tell me how many copies of Uncharted 4 Sony must sale to break even and have a profit? If you have that magic number and they achieve the goal then you can celebrate all you want.
Guys I love ND, I bought all their games day one and I have platinum trophies in the Uncharted series on Ps3 and on PS4
I did not write my thoughts here to troll or offend anyone; if I did, it wasnt my intention and I am sorry.
This is a sales thread and my only sin was that I expected more sales and larger attachment rate for Uncharted 4, a game that I supported by buying it day one.
And I expected more sales because the guys of ND deserve more.
Expressing that I expected more sales does not mean that ND did not do great with U4.
Without knowing the real cost and the total amount of money that Sony invested in the creation of U4 (it took ND 5-6 years to make) we cannot have a true estimation if 2 or 3 or 7 million in sales is enough.
This is how real life works unfortunately.
Again I am sorry for expressing my thoughts and I am off this thread.
Guys I love ND, I bought all their games day one and I have platinum trophies in the Uncharted series on Ps3 and on PS4…
I did not write my thoughts here to troll or offend anyone; if I did, it wasn’t my intention and I am sorry.
This is a sales thread and my only sin was that I expected more sales and larger attachment rate for Uncharted 4, a game that I supported by buying it day one.
And I expected more sales because the guys of ND deserve more.
Expressing that I expected more sales does not mean that ND did not do great with U4.
Without knowing the real cost and the total amount of money that Sony invested in the creation of U4 (it took ND 5-6 years to make) we cannot have a true estimation if 2 or 3 or 7 million in sales is enough.
This is how real life works unfortunately.
Again I am sorry for expressing my thoughts and I am off this thread.
I accept 6.7% of the blame but not more.
Every time someone doesn't buy UC4, Sony is losing sales - FACT!
I am like one of those people you know personally. i've already gone on record to say tlou is the best game i ever played - putting biases aside of course, because i do not have the desire to ever play through that again (because it is horror genre, and a zombie stealth game, none of which really appeals to me) but I definitely do want to spend more time with Uc4 because I have more fun with it.This thread has gotten off track...the sales are fantastic.
I will say I'm baffled at people saying UC and TLOU are basically the same or appeal to the exact same audience. I personally know many people who have strong preferences or find TLOU far too scary to play. TLOU is horror and UC is pure fun action. Only segments of UC1 had mild horror elements.
They may have a strongly overlapping audience, ND fans, TPS fans, story driven game fans etc...they have a huge dividing factor, with the horror elements of TLOU.
I love both series, but realize that many have strong preferences.
Sadly, ND had to send that guy to jail for that
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Yep.Was this actually in Uncharted 4?
I feel like the fact that Sony provided official numbers and Sony personnel are raving about the game's success all over social media should be enough to rationalize that everyone is happy with Uncharted's sales.
You don't flaunt numbers if you aren't satisfied with them. Look at almost every XBO exclusive.
I feel like the fact that Sony provided official numbers and Sony personnel are raving about the game's success all over social media should be enough to rationalize that everyone is happy with Uncharted's sales.
You don't flaunt numbers if you aren't satisfied with them. Look at almost every XBO exclusive.
Sony are obviously disappointed with the sales and trying to obscure ND's failure by fraud through media misled.
They are probably breaking down Naughty Dog and closing the studio as we speak.
This is normal. Game releases initially ship far more copies than what will be sold through in the first week. Especially when release is during the holiday season, as was the case with U3.
Games don't sell through their entire shipment in one week. It takes months, not one single week.
how does this compare to halo 3? did Uc4 come close?
Nope Halo 3 was a monster in the first month .
After some time it might come close to the LTD.
how does this compare to halo 3? did Uc4 come close?
This only happens on Nintendo platforms. PS is home to many popular IP from 3rd parties. Some people only get one for Sports games, or COD, or as a blu-Ray player and Minecraft lol. More diverse audience.Might have been covered, but I always find it interesting how these big, good games don't actually sell to even half a console's audience.
PS4 is at what, 40 million? If UC4 goes above 20 million copies sold it'd be unprecedented (right?), for everything but bundles and Mario games, right?
So conceivably well over half the owners of a PS4 will never buy one of its most hyped, most expensive, most well-received games around.
It's even more pronounced for something like Bloodborne, and is repeated for other consoles too (e.g. Halo 5 on Xbox One).
Halo 3 did 3.3 million in its first 12 days.
So UC4 may be in the ballpark (2.6 in 7 days vs 3.3 in 12 days).
Halo 3.3m was NPD September only.Halo 3 did 3.3 million in its first 12 days.
So UC4 may be in the ballpark (2.6 in 7 days vs 3.3 in 12 days).
Uncharted 3 did shipped for holidays (Nov to Dec) 3.8m... that include shipment to BF period.Didn't uncharted 3 sold 3.8 million copies the first day alone?
Didn't uncharted 3 sold 3.8 million copies the first day alone?
It shipped 3.8 million on day 1 because it was launching during the holidays. It didn't sell through all of that day 1. Nowhere close to that.Didn't uncharted 3 sold 3.8 million copies the first day alone?
Didn't uncharted 3 sold 3.8 million copies the first day alone?
Halo 3.3m was NPD September only.
US only.
Said that I believe U4 will do 1.3m NPD May without counting digital so I can estimate U4 performed about half of what Halo 3 performed at launch.
Someone had the idea that ND should make an (80s or 90s) Buddy Cop game - I really liked the idea.
Ya, I realized that figure was probably just NPD right after I posted. Are there any worldwide figures out there for H3 in first week/month?
I think we need worldwide numbers for both to do a rough comparison.
The coop on r2 was so much fun. It was a second campaign.It had amazing co-op, which it will forever be liked for.
Resistance 4 with R:FoM multiplayer, R2 co-op, and R3 single player style would be a phenomenal game.
The coop on r2 was so much fun. It was a second campaign.
Why are we comparing this to Halo 3? Halo 3 was an absolute monster.
To be fair if U4 could do half (or a bit more than half) of what Halo 3 did at launch I will call a really amazing job.I thought Uc4 could match it. i guess I was wrong.
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I thought Uc4 could match it. i guess I was wrong.
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No way could UC4 match Halo 3. No way.I thought Uc4 could match it. i guess I was wrong.
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To be fair if U4 could do half (or a bit more than half) of what Halo 3 did at launch I will call a really amazing job.
The numbers appoints to that.
Not bad, makes sure the lights stay on whilst TLOU2 and Crash are developed.
How could anyone think UC4 would reach Halo 3? Uncharted never had that kind of appeal, the first game wasn't big at all and it's not like the later games blew up the charts. If nothing else, it's a franchise that has steadily grown as time has gone by. It's probably a bigger franchise than Halo and Gears but that only speaks about what happened to those Xbox franchises, completely fucked the pooch.
No way could UC4 match Halo 3. No way.
How could anyone think UC4 would reach Halo 3? Uncharted never had that kind of appeal, the first game wasn't big at all and it's not like the later games blew up the charts. If nothing else, it's a franchise that has steadily grown as time has gone by. It's probably a bigger franchise than Halo and Gears but that only speaks about what happened to those Xbox franchises, completely fucked the pooch.
you always say these things but you never have individual game sales numbers to back them upUncharted 3 already matched Halo, why would 4 be different, they may not have as strong a launch but the UC games have impressive legs.
To be fair if U4 could do half (or a bit more than half) of what Halo 3 did at launch I will call a really amazing job.
The numbers appoints to that.
Not bad, makes sure the lights stay on whilst TLOU2 and Crash are developed.
How could anyone think UC4 would reach Halo 3? Uncharted never had that kind of appeal, the first game wasn't big at all and it's not like the later games blew up the charts. If nothing else, it's a franchise that has steadily grown as time has gone by. It's probably a bigger franchise than Halo and Gears but that only speaks about what happened to those Xbox franchises, completely fucked the pooch.