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Uncharted 5 Premise (U4 ending Spoiler inside)

TheOfficeMut said:
Uncharted 5 opens up with Cass, Nate and Elena off of the shore of an island just fishing and hanging out. Cass is 18/19 by now. Suddenly pirates appear and attack their vessel. Cass manages to swim away, but leaves her parents on the boat. She reaches the shore some 1000 ft. away, and from a distance watches the pirates attack Nate and Elena as the ship begins to take on water. Suddenly, a gas line is hit, we see a quick scene with Nate and Elena holding each other in arms, and the boat explodes. Nate's head immediately detaches from his body and enters the atmosphere, and Elena's body is seen eviscerated pink-mist style. As Cass stands back in shock and despair with the pirates now setting their eyes on her from the distance, Nate's head plummets to Earth and lands in her lap. She screams out in horror.

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man you might as well have cassie doing an evil laugh at this point and imply she shot the gas line and say "it is my turn to murder and plunder" and Nate going "No!!!Cassie!!!don't do this":)
 
Mr. Giggles said:
An uncharted game not made by ND is risky.... I mean who would be able to treat the IP right? Who could? The writing is the special glue that holds it all together
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um...maybe insomniac could do it. iirc way back in the Ps1 days, ND was pretty friendly with them over the whole crash/spyro projects. this is all hypothetical anyway. as of right now, we have no idea.

but it's not impossible. uncharted golden abyss, while it wasn't as good as Uc2/3/4, it's overall a pretty solid video game.
 
The ending wrapped up everything perfectly. It was absolutely beautiful and brought a tear to my eye. As much as I love sequels, I think a decade later and after 4 games and everything they've been through, Nate and Elena have earned their peace. The whole point of the epilogue was to show that after everything, the real treasure they found in the end was themselves.

There will more than likely be more Uncharted games (with other characters), but Nate, Elena, Sully and crew deserve their rest.
 
The Artisan said:
um...maybe insomniac could do it. iirc way back in the Ps1 days, ND was pretty friendly with them over the whole crash/spyro projects. this is all hypothetical anyway. as of right now, we have no idea.

but it's not impossible. uncharted golden abyss, while it wasn't as good as Uc2/3/4, it's overall a pretty solid video game.
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insomniac is a terrible game studio outside of R+C
 
If another Uncharted comes and I hope it does...
Lets focus on a new character and a different time period...

Lets focus on Francis Drake.

Lets take the original adventures. An open world open sea adventure touching Mythos that others have yet to touch. Lets go through Spanish history touch Spanish Mythos, Viking History, Aztec History, Native American and south american History, possbily Irish or other unexplored eras history.

I think that would be the best cases IMO to carry on with Uncharted... I'd love starring as francis drake... My friends and I have somewhat been discussing this for awhile now.

I imagine this will get buried but I have alot more ideas maybe I'll make a thread later too... There are somethings from reading through all the U4 threads that people seem to be missing from the game/s.
 
Jolkien said:
The single player DLC will be about D&F Fortune going to different digs. I wouldn't bet on anything else.
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Nah. I can't picture that at all. Doing that would require making an Uncharted DLC with no combat or much action, which they could be ballsy enough to do but I doubt, or it would require shitting on the development of Nate and Elena in the ending to put them into yet another dangerous situation.

I think it's likely going to be either a Sam and Sully adventure, or Sam's perspective of things once the get seperated on the island. Or a flashback adventure to Sam and Nathan when they were younger.
 
The Artisan said:
um...maybe insomniac could do it. iirc way back in the Ps1 days, ND was pretty friendly with them over the whole crash/spyro projects. this is all hypothetical anyway. as of right now, we have no idea.

but it's not impossible. uncharted golden abyss, while it wasn't as good as Uc2/3/4, it's overall a pretty solid video game.
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The bar has been raised a lot higher; you can't just pull a Golden Abyss for Uncharted 5. The budget will be a lot higher to meet the standards, and with that, only a top studio should be in charge of it (I don't think Insomniac would be good for Uncharted).
 
Uncharted 4 is a such a great end to the series (that epilogue was amazing) but I must admit I would definitely be down for another.

I wouldn't want any other developer touching the franchise though. It's either Naughty Dog or bust.
 
Mr. Giggles said:
An uncharted game not made by ND is risky.... I mean who would be able to treat the IP right? Who could? The writing is the special glue that holds it all together



Wait.... isn't platforming gameplay? Normally when people take shots at Uncharted its because of the cut scenes
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The Artisan said:
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the platforming is the best part of uncharted gameplay. i don't care what anyone says.
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SDCowboy said:
lol What the hell? The platforming is the core of the series' gameplay and was amazing.
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Just go to the Uncharted 4 OT. A lot of people didnt like the Platforming to Shooting ratio. I like the platforming in these games as they allow you a lot of freedom during combat scenarios (especially in Multiplayer) but when the platforming to combat ratio goes from 50:50 to 80:20, it starts to get boring.

There were chapters where you did nothing but platforming. It was literally impossible to die in those chapters. Then there were chapters where you just presses Triangle and called it a day. I loved the Village chapter in Uncharted 2 back in the day, but it should be a one off thing.
 
shinobi602 said:
The ending wrapped up everything perfectly. It was absolutely beautiful and brought a tear to my eye. As much as I love sequels, I think a decade later and after 4 games and everything they've been through, Nate and Elena have earned their peace. The whole point of the epilogue was to show that after everything, the real treasure they found in the end was themselves.

There will more than likely be more Uncharted games (with other characters), but Nate, Elena, Sully and crew deserve their rest.
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This 100 per cent.
 
shinobi602 said:
The ending wrapped up everything perfectly. It was absolutely beautiful and brought a tear to my eye. As much as I love sequels, I think a decade later and after 4 games and everything they've been through, Nate and Elena have earned their peace. The whole point of the epilogue was to show that after everything, the real treasure they found in the end was themselves.

There will more than likely be more Uncharted games (with other characters), but Nate, Elena, Sully and crew deserve their rest.
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you are reading too much into it. They don't regret any of the things they did in past. They still enjoy the adventure but just a different type. They hate their normal lives.

Just because they were out, doesn't mean they wouldn't get back in if someone dear to their heart is in trouble.
 
EuropeOG said:
The bar has been raised a lot higher; you can't just pull a Golden Abyss for Uncharted 5. The budget will be a lot higher to meet the standards, and with that, only a top studio should be in charge of it (I don't think Insomniac would be good for Uncharted).
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of course, i know the bar has been set higher. golden abyss came out after Uc3. nothing is a sure fire plan right now. i think uncharted the IP will rest for a little while but if and when it comes back, it's going to be different.
SlimySnake said:
Just go to the Uncharted 4 OT. A lot of people didnt like the Platforming to Shooting ratio. I like the platforming in these games as they allow you a lot of freedom during combat scenarios (especially in Multiplayer) but when the platforming to combat ratio goes from 50:50 to 80:20, it starts to get boring.

There were chapters where you did nothing but platforming. It was literally impossible to die in those chapters. Then there were chapters where you just presses Triangle and called it a day. I loved the Village chapter in Uncharted 2 back in the day, but it should be a one off thing.
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i'm well aware what the popular opinion is, and i'm also aware that i'm in the minority of appreciating uncharted's platforming over its shooting.
 
Inferno313 said:
Nah. I can't picture that at all. Doing that would require making an Uncharted DLC with no combat or much action, which they could be ballsy enough to do but I doubt, or it would require shitting on the development of Nate and Elena in the ending to put them into yet another dangerous situation.

I think it's likely going to be either a Sam and Sully adventure, or Sam's perspective of things once the get seperated on the island. Or a flashback adventure to Sam and Nathan when they were younger.
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They already done it successfully in Left Behind. But yeah I was still asleep, totally forgot about Sam and Sully we could follow them but then again with both of them I doubt they went spelunking or anything, could be a stealing job like an Ocean Eleven or something. Speculating on this is fun, did they give us any kind of timetable for the single player DLC ? I really don't care about multiplayer.
 
The Artisan said:
disagree. they made the original spyro, which is classic on the same level as the original crash,

they made the resistance series which imo is a little underrated,

and sunset overdrive was nominated for a lot of awards
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Which means they're also responsible for Resistance 2 - the worst AAA shooter I've ever had the displeasure of playing.

Sunset was awesome though. Better than Infamous and a damn shame it didn't sell better.
 
JBwB said:
Uncharted 4 is a such a great end to the series (that epilogue was amazing) but I must admit I would definitely be down for another.

I wouldn't want any other developer touching the franchise though. It's either Naughty Dog or bust.
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From Software would be amazing.

/s
 
ND was in a lose lose situation either way because of the division between fans. Some complained about the games being too short, ND expanded the over gametime. Some complained about there being too much combat, ND reduced the frequency of combat. This got people who appreciated the general play time and combat frequency kicking back at them. ND could have handled it a bit better, but there would have been complaints either way.

I'm a part of those who liked the previous length and combat ratio, but I'll take what I could get.
 
SDCowboy said:
lol What the hell? The platforming is the core of the series' gameplay and was amazing.
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Platforming has never been and probably will never be amazing in an uncharted game.

EDIT: there is a uncharted platforming defense force?! It's auto platforming, there is little input from the player. It's just there to do stuff. I speak outside of the combat. The way it's used in combat is perfect.
 
Unknown One said:
ND was in a lose lose situation either way because of the division between fans. Some complained about the games being too short, ND expanded the over gametime. Some complained about there being too much combat, ND reduced the frequency of combat. This got people who appreciated the general play time and combat frequency kicking back at them. ND could have handled it a bit better, but there would have been complaints either way.

I'm a part of those who liked the previous length and combat ratio, but I'll take what I could get.
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I LOVED that UC4 had a smaller emphasis on combat. I'll say it again, I would love an Uncharted game that had little to no combat, and upped the puzzle content.
 
Vitor711 said:
Which means they're also responsible for Resistance 2 - the worst AAA shooter I've ever had the displeasure of playing.

Sunset was awesome though. Better than Infamous and a damn shame it didn't sell better.
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i liked resistance 2. i would go so far as saying killzone 4's worse than it. but either way...it sounds like you overall don't think little of insomniac's capabilities anyway. i'm not saying they should for sure do an uncharted game, i'm saying when the time comes, there will be a developer who can do the job too. maybe not better than ND, but it's gonna be different, anyway.
 
BeforeU said:
you are reading too much into it. They don't regret any of the things they did in past. They still enjoy the adventure but just a different type. They hate their normal lives.

Just because they were out, doesn't mean they wouldn't get back in if someone dear to their heart is in trouble.
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i think the point is to let those characters rest in peace as it wrapped up well. i don't see why it is required to have drake and his family involved in an uncharted game and have people go "not again...". Just make a new one with new characters.
 
The Artisan said:
i liked resistance 2. i would go so far as saying killzone 4's worse than it. but either way...it sounds like you overall don't think little of insomniac's capabilities anyway. i'm not saying they should for sure do an uncharted game, i'm saying when the time comes, there will be a developer who can do the job too. maybe not better than ND, but it's gonna be different, anyway.
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resistance 2 had an awesome coop mode that should have been expanded in resistance 3. SP was not really good in Resistance 2. Resistance 3 SP is very good though
 
BeforeU said:
you are reading too much into it. They don't regret any of the things they did in past. They still enjoy the adventure but just a different type. They hate their normal lives.

Just because they were out, doesn't mean they wouldn't get back in if someone dear to their heart is in trouble.
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Exactly, which is why the ended up doing what they're doing by the end, which isn't a "normal life", but still have their little adventures while being together as a family and leaving the life-threatening danger behind. It's specifically why the game is called "A Thief's End", and the reason Neil Druckmann said what he said:

"At the end of the day Sony owns Uncharted and they can do whatever they want" Druckmann told Eurogamer at a recent event. "But with the end of this story it will be really hard to do a sequel with Nathan Drake. Maybe there'll be a prequel, maybe it will be a different character—I don't know. But this is the end for Nathan Drake."

"He’s at the height of his popularity, so it’s not a good business decision," Druckmann continued. "But I feel like the best way to honor him is to go out on top, to finish his story."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-01-20-naughty-dogs-neil-druckmann-on-why-uncharted-has-to-end
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I know you want more, but there's a point where creatively, it's not the best decision. Even if Cassie is the main character, it's a shoehorn to bring Nate and Elena back. Nate has been honored.
 
Not even slightly interested in more Uncharted and definitely not one where Drake isn't the focus. This game wrapped the series up perfectly.
 
Jolkien said:
They already done it successfully in Left Behind. But yeah I was still asleep, totally forgot about Sam and Sully we could follow them but then again with both of them I doubt they went spelunking or anything, could be a stealing job like an Ocean Eleven or something. Speculating on this is fun, did they give us any kind of timetable for the single player DLC ? I really don't care about multiplayer.
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You're misremembering Left Behind. It had combat, just not in the flashbacks.
 
sense said:
resistance 2 had an awesome coop mode that should have been expanded in resistance 3. SP was not really good in Resistance 2. Resistance 3 SP is very good though
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yep, i'll agree with you there.

one of the last games i ever played that had splitscreen coop :(

and i agree, resistance 2 had great coop missions. sucks i never was able to reach the end of any of them.
 
Yeah, I really hope U4 is the last one. Ending was good, this entry doesn't really lack anything... so if they want to continue formula, just start new IP with this mechanic.
 
This series has to end at Uncharted 4. I don't want this IP to be passed onto to some other studio an turned into an annual, half-assed snooze fest. If it does live on it must be a spiritual successor with new protagonists, a new name, settings, game play mechanics etc.

Let it go, people.
 
Nate and Elena die while in their D&F expeditions, the families of the mercenaries killed by Nate and led by Nadine then go after Cassie. Sully knows of this and decides the only way to save her is to move to the UK and change her name, he names her Lara Croft, he's the butler from Tomb Raider II's manor.

j/k but I wouldn't say no to a game with adult Cassie, young Sully or teenage Nate as protagonists. As long as it isn't made by RaD.

I was going to say Cutter or/and Chloe could have their own game if partnered with Sully or/and Sam, but I'd rather that be the DLC for Uncharted 4 please. Maybe throw Marisa or Rika in too.
 
MiamiWesker said:
Platforming has never been and probably will never be amazing in an uncharted game.

EDIT: there is a uncharted platforming defense force?! It's auto platforming, there is little input from the player. It's just there to do stuff. I speak outside of the combat. The way it's used in combat is perfect.
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There are lots of gamers who want as little input in their games as possible as long as the story hits them in the feels. See the GOTY awards handed out to Journey, a walking simulator, and the Witcher 3, a game with combat that starts to get boring after the first encounter.
 
Nev said:
Nate and Elena die while in their D&F expeditions, the families of the mercenaries killed by Nate and led by Nadine then go after Cassie. Sully knows of this because he's deep in that underground scene and decides the only way to save her is to move to the UK and change her name, he names her Lara Croft, he's the butler from Tomb Raider II's manor.
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New headcanon.

But seriously, please let it be over. It was perfect.
 
shinobi602 said:
Exactly, which is why the ended up doing what they're doing by the end, which isn't a "normal life", but still have their little adventures while being together as a family and leaving the life-threatening danger behind. It's specifically why the game is called "A Thief's End", and the reason Neil Druckmann said what he said:


I know you want more, but there's a point where creatively, it's not the best decision. Even if Cassie is the main character, it's a shoehorn to bring Nate and Elena back. Nate has been honored.
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I actually mostly agree that the franchise is over. Its a shame. So sad. I'd love to see more of the character. Its pretty hard to let this one go

But then this hasn't really ever happened (in video games), where a franchise is still shining bright and they end it more or less. An incredibly brave decision tbh.

I still never get over the fact that Monk the tv series just ended because, he decided the tv show should end on a high.
 
It's pretty damn obvious where they are taking this IP.

Nathan Drakes story is done. Forget him and his daughter.

So ridiculously obvious that *when* we get a new uncharted (and it is a when, this game sells too much not too) it will have a new lead and that lead will be....

Evelyn, the old lady adventurer.

Obviously she won't be old for the game but it will be an Uncharted in an old era (1900-1930's) with her as a young lady.

The whole mansion sequence screamed, this is where we are going with uncharted. If it weren't the case then why do it this way and show off all of Evelyns past hauls.

Looking forward to the adventures of Evelyn and a young Miss Morgan (Mother Drake) coming out in 2019/20!
 
Scene: 5 years in the future

Nathan Drake has been living a peaceful life with his wife and daughter. However, Nathan is haunted by nightmares and before long returns to his days of mass murder.

The game stars Cassie Drake alongside her mentor Sam Drake as they attempt to stop his killing spree.
 
ManeKast said:
Why did they show that epilogue if not to setup a continuation?
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Story-wise? To firmly establish that Nate and Elena live long happy lives together. Marketing-wise? To give everyone an excuse to go play the Nathan Drake collection. Do you think it's a complete coincidence that Nate starts telling their story all over again? It sets up a narrative loop, neatly closed from end to beginning.
 
TheOfficeMut said:
People move goalposts when they attempt to define what is or isn't considered gameplay. It's damn annoying.
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I'm all for critique but man let's be consistent at least, lol

The Artisan said:
um...maybe insomniac could do it. iirc way back in the Ps1 days, ND was pretty friendly with them over the whole crash/spyro projects. this is all hypothetical anyway. as of right now, we have no idea.

but it's not impossible. uncharted golden abyss, while it wasn't as good as Uc2/3/4, it's overall a pretty solid video game.
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Insomniac....yeesh I dunno... I mean, I see where you're coming from but man I don't know if they could find the right balance between seriousness and wittyness that the writing in uncharted is known for.

they did a great job with resistance 1 and 3....so maybe they could!

SlimySnake said:
Just go to the Uncharted 4 OT. A lot of people didnt like the Platforming to Shooting ratio. I like the platforming in these games as they allow you a lot of freedom during combat scenarios (especially in Multiplayer) but when the platforming to combat ratio goes from 50:50 to 80:20, it starts to get boring.

There were chapters where you did nothing but platforming. It was literally impossible to die in those chapters. Then there were chapters where you just presses Triangle and called it a day. I loved the Village chapter in Uncharted 2 back in the day, but it should be a one off thing.
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To the bolded bits, I just finished the game last night.... what chapter are you talking about where you press triangle and call it a day?

Uncharted game play bubbles down to 3 things:
> Platforming
> Shooting
> Puzzles

The platforming and puzzles usually go hand in hand, although there are also puzzles with 0 platforming. The platforming also allows the player exploration and the chance to enjoy the atmosphere, not to mention its fun in MP

As for the shooting elements, I think there was a good amount of it. I mean every chapter after 5 had enemy engagements.....so again.... to your bolded bits, what chapter was it where you just pressed triangle and called it a day?
 
Acquiescence said:
I think the idea of playing as the daughter in a future entry is horrible to be honest.

Just let Uncharted be put to bed. It ended in superlative fashion, so keep it that way.
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I don't think its the worst idea but... this franchise needs some time off like bring it back in 10 years or something when nobody is expecting it.
 
No way they make a game with Cassie. Nathan and Elenas story is over, and that includes Cassie. There are several options to continue the series however.

Sam & Sully
Chloe & Cutter
Cassandra Morgan
Francis Drake
A completely new cast

I personally like the idea of doing a prequel series with either Cassandra or Francis.
 
ViewtifulJC said:
Yeah, well, you know, as thrilling as the next adventure might be, in the end...you're always left with the same feeling. Sometimes you just gotta...choose what your'e gonna keep and...what you're gonna let go.
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Oh look. It's the literal moral of the entire franchise of Uncharted. It's funny how applicable it is to the entire franchise of Uncharted.

Guys. We're done here. Uncharted games are nothing special without Naughty Dog. Naughty Dog is moving on, because they can. There's a balance to be struck between making money and keeping the talent happy. Naughty Dog does both. TLoU has shipped (or sold?) 8 million copies. Possibly more than U3. Sony won't make them make another Uncharted. Why? Because Sony can just make them make another new IP that immediately sells absurd numbers.

Besides, that ending is not a sequel setup. It's the eventual conclusion to everyone's story.
 
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