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Unfortunately LTTP: Army of Two

Where to begin. . .

Got this game on goozex along with another friend, as we really enjoy a coop game, even bad ones are fun sometimes when playing with a friend.
I remember I first became aware of this game before I owned any console this gen. I think it was 06 when EGM ran a "50 most anticipated next gen games" feature. Gears of war, assassin's creed, crackdown, many others were on there. Number 1 was army of two.

Anyway, we cooped the entire game, and this is one of the worst games I've ever played.

Controls: The aiming, movement, and general controls are so incredibly sluggish and non responsive. Tracking enemies with your crosshairs is an exercise in frustration and failure.

General Bugs: Getting knocked up onto boxes and having your partner unable to reach you, even though it's a box you can vault over. Hitscan being terrible - I can see half of a guy sticking out of cover and am shooting him, but no hits register.

AI: The enemies do nothing and everything. An enemy will have you pinned, even have you downed from a shotgun effect or melee or something, and rather than keep on you, they just run across the map instead. The enemies run around like idiots all the time with no rhyme or reason. I could go on for hours about this, but why...why are you arbitrarily running around instead of you know, attacking me?

Gameplay: A FREAKING CUTSCENE TO OPEN EVERY DOOR? wtf. Why do I need a cutscene to open a door or pull off a hatch, every freaking time. Really? And how about we'll just have you walking along on a path, and throw a pit in front of you that you have to jump down into for no reason other than to just want to keep using the stupid step jump "cooperative" features? Sure, we'll take a dozen of those. Want vehicle sections that make the gears of war 2 driving on the ice lake look like gran turismo? We got those too!

Story: Just...we played through in two sittings, and there was so much cognitive dissonance in this game that it's impossible to start. I don't even have a problem with the ham fisted 7th grader caliber commentary on private armies, whatever. But when you're playing with a friend, and you both say to each other "wait, did we just miss 20 minutes of dialogue or cutscene that would have made what they just said make sense or connect to what we just did?" at the same time, something is wrong. It felt like watching a movie, but every ten minutes they cut out 5.

Achievements: A full playthrough, and I got 100 achievement points. I mean really, bad bad games should at least give you a few hundred points...

I spent the equivalent of ten dollars on this game, and I hated the entire playthrough more than any game I've played in years.
 
Awful game. The bullets fire from the guns in these random sprays that don't ever hit anything.

Shook my faith in Draft.
 
Wow it wasn't that bad. I played through the game twice with two separate people and i really liked it. The weapon customization was awesome. The missions where you actually had to cooperate to finish, such as one person controlling the parachute and the other shooting, were really fun. I don't understand the hate on this game.
 
Over 600k people bought this in it's opening month. That was the day that I lost all faith in gamer's ability to discern between shit and the shit.
 
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This game was the best co-op split screen game ever up until Borderlands and Modern Warfare 2 was released.

This game is fantastic. Can't wait for the sequel. (The DLC multiplayer maps SUCKED however).
 
I had a little bit of fun with it, playing co-op with a friend. I wouldn't have played it if it hadn't come out at a slow time of the year. It was so stupid....ass slapping, blinged weapons and suicide bomber minigames. It probably had the worst dialogue ever.
Salem - "HEY RIOS WHOS YOURE FAVORITE MEMBER OF THE WUTANG CLAN"
Rio - "DAMNIT, not now kid!"
 
chubigans said:
This game was the best co-op split screen game ever up until Borderlands and Modern Warfare 2 was released.

This game is fantastic. Can't wait for the sequel. (The DLC multiplayer maps SUCKED however).



You, sir, are quite wrong, Left 4 Dead was out before those games. Secondly, the game is terrible and should not be mentioned in the same sentence as these other great games.



robot said:
Disappointing game. Did it really sell enough for a sequel?


Yeah, but the drop off is gonna be huge. A lot of people got burned on this one. Myself included.
 
elrechazao said:
...But when you're playing with a friend, and you both say to each other "wait, did we just miss 20 minutes of dialogue or cutscene that would have made what they just said make sense or connect to what we just did?" at the same time, something is wrong.
If two people could say this exact phrase at the same time without trying or coaching...Well that'd be a world record or something.
 
Not the best game, technically, but it's lots of fun for the sheer ridiculousness of it all. Like what Rios and Salem say when you pick up a briefcase.

Played co-op with a friend. We had a blast. It's one of those have a few drinks in you kinds of games.
 
dragonflys545 said:
Should have played it when it first came out, you might have enjoyed it a bit more.
I feel nothing but burning hatred having "paid" the equivalent of ten bucks, so I doubt paying a lot more and playing it with high expectations would have helped.
 
Dead said:
Worth it for the brofists only
Yeah playing with a friend and just going through the game with all it's ridiculousness and simple aggro system was pretty fun.
 
elrechazao said:
Read the op, haven't ever touched this game without a friend.
Oh well what can I say then, just stop playing it... Personally I had a lot of fun with this game, played it all the way through with 2 of my friends. There's no accounting for taste I guess.
 
Neuromancer said:
Oh well what can I say then, just stop playing it... Personally I had a lot of fun with this game, played it all the way through with 2 of my friends. There's no accounting for taste I guess.
I did stop, after I beat it :D (op again :P)
 
Oh. Well... I guess you've done your job then. Still you're not going to get everyone here to agree with you, if that's what you're trying to do.
 
Neuromancer said:
Oh. Well... I guess you've done your job then. Still you're not going to get everyone here to agree with you, if that's what you're trying to do.
Definitely not, just interested in other opinions.
 
My cousin and I had a blast with this game, of course I only played in coop, dunno why so much hate
 
Game is terrible. Minigun didn't even animate. Hands clipped through foregrips. No polish on top of shitty gameplay.

Each of my friends is allowed to make me buy one coop game no matter how much I think it sucks. One used his chance up on this, another lost it on Sacred 2.

And I saw a video of AoT2, looks like more of the same.
 
A competent Gears clone for PS3 only gamers. I can understand it being redundant on the Xbox. :\

Also sequel had better fuckin' have skippable cutscenes. That bullshit KILLED any replayability the original had.
 
The Take Out Bandit said:
A competent Gears clone for PS3 only gamers. I can understand it being redundant on the Xbox. :\

Also sequel had better fuckin' have skippable cutscenes. That bullshit KILLED any replayability the original had.
It's nothing like gears, especially in terms of playability. Gears, even if you hate it, is mechanically sound as a shooter.

The Take Out Bandit said:
Ao2: 40 DAys IIRC

40th day I think
 
Glad I didn't waste my money on this......

Hell I might even like it though.

It seems I have trusted GAF on a few different games and then gave them a shot...... and what do you know. ended up liking them
 
Yeah, a friend and I had fun playing this game coop...but everything about it was awful. The story was probably the worst part about it; even though the 'twist' was painfully obvious long before it happened, they still somehow made the whole thing feel really disjointed and confused.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure the best part about the game was trying to setup one of those coop ledge boost things only to have my character say like "good work bro" or something, followed by a 4 second impossible to skip fist pump animation. over. and over. and over. For the sequel I hope they keep both actions bound to A.
 
Keyser Soze said:
I don't understand negative LTTP threads

Everytime I make one they get locked, everytime I see one otherwise it stays open.

I think it's people who didn't play the games when they came out to avoid a media blitz, then went back and realized the game was hollow and un-fun. This is kind of my experience with the first Assassins Creed and why I'm waiting until February to play part 2.
 
permutated said:
Everytime I make one they get locked, everytime I see one otherwise it stays open.

I think it's people who didn't play the games when they came out to avoid a media blitz, then went back and realized the game was hollow and un-fun. This is kind of my experience with the first Assassins Creed and why I'm waiting until February to play part 2.
Not that I was aware (if it even is a rule that you can't make negative LTTP threads...) but every single lttp thread is about half love and half hate anyway...what does it matter if the op is pro or con? I thought it was about coming to a game well after the hype or hate had died down and talking about it afterward.
 
For all it's flaws it was awesome fun with a friend, come on the Wu Tang Clan line was immense. Also loved the Air Guitar and being able to punch your mate.
 
It was OK. I wouldn't have played it but for the fact I had a window in my gaming schedule and it filled it adequately.

Will I buy the sequel? Probably not.
 
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