cartoon_soldier
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The scene between Oberyn and Tyrion
So good
Next episode will be so sad
So good
Next episode will be so sad
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 4 - Sundays on HBO
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WrenchNinja
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Didn't expect this from Joanna. Cast of Kings will be an interesting listen this week.
cartoon_soldier
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"Only Sister" was done fine. The line change works on the show if you look at it from a non-book reader perspective.
The last scene was great.
Sophie Turner was great too.
The last scene was great.
Sophie Turner was great too.
They didn't said that the Hound was terrorizing the Riverlands, they said he killed 5 soldiers.
But yeah, Rorge and Biter were wasted in a pretty meh scene (and that's weird because usually the Arya/Hound scenes have been one of the best extra content created for the show... after the Arya/Tywin scenes).
But yeah, Rorge and Biter were wasted in a pretty meh scene (and that's weird because usually the Arya/Hound scenes have been one of the best extra content created for the show... after the Arya/Tywin scenes).
Right on. My favorite scene of the night.
WrenchNinja
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Why do people think Daario is Euron?
KibblesBits
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I'm wondering this too.
I was confused on why they wasted Rorge and Biter on that scene. It didn't seem to make sense for Rorge to just stand there right after Biter does his thing (which seemed off) and then still stand there for Arya to kill him. I'll have to rewatch it but that irked me more than "only your sister".
bengraven
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That look on Bronn's face is exactly what I pictured it would be per the book. As much of a smartass as he's been, attempting to act cold and merciless, it's obvious he has affection for the little Imp.
Because he is.
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/109609-eurio-greyharis/
John Dunbar
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Someone needs to make Euron is Daario GIF from Ace Ventura's Finkle is Einhorn scene.
Wander what they're going to do with Lollys now. Will she still be pregnant? Will baby Tyrion be cut? Maybe they'll just mention what happened during the riots and say it was off screen.
Bit strange they got rid of Lady Tansa and replaced her with some arbitrary Lord Stokeworth.
I read somewhere the whole Stokeworth/Bronn plot could be quite important in TWOW/ADOS. Falyse's husband or someone mentions they have a claim to Rosby even though Lord Rosby (coughing guy who Cersei made master of coin in AFFC) wanted his ward or someone to inherit it after he coughed himself to death. In the ADWD epilogue someone mentions the need to resolve the Rosby inheritance at the council meeting but Kevan says it can wait until after the trials of the queens.
It's looking pretty likely that soon Bronn will be ruling both Stokeworth and Rosby, and have a fairly large number of sellswords about him as well. He could be looking at being a fairly major thorn in Cersei, or someone's, side.
SquiddyCracker
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Cornballer
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Cornballer
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.Adalian said:
SquiddyCracker
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Btw, what chapter/book is the "Chaos is a ladder" speech in?
It remains to date my favorite monologue in game of thrones.
It remains to date my favorite monologue in game of thrones.
indigo-cyclops
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God that felt so good. Fucking Oberyn, gonna miss you man. I just hope hope hope they show Gregor in true agony.
Steelyuhas
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Don't think it is.
That scene was pretty much 1:1 from the book if I recall correctly.
VanquishUK
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I hope Oberyn's death is as graphic and awesome as it is in the book. I doubt it though.
WrenchNinja
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Well you've convinced me. That's pretty nuts.
Cornballer
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Adding to the list of inane arguments for the next two weeks until we get a new episode:
- Time.com: The Physics of the Game of Thrones “Moon Door”
- Time.com: The Physics of the Game of Thrones “Moon Door”
Yep it is more or less word for word.
indigo-cyclops
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Same, I'm convinced. It's a reasonable theory regardless of the travel issues people have with it.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Yeah, the majority of the dialogue in that scene was straight from the books.
The only bit I remember really being different was that whole 'Lord Stokeworth' bit, when obviously it's Lady Stokeworth in the books. Kind of odd with that also happening in the same episode that Oberyn says his father took him and Elia to the rock, when it was their mother in the book. I think it's kind of lame how they're eliminating all these examples of ruling ladies from the books.
Tyrion: "Oberyn, can you do me a favor?"
Oberyn: "What is it?"
Tyrion: "Everyone knows The Mountain killed your sister and her children. Could you stop repeating it?"
Oberyn: "I'm sorry. It just makes me angry."
Tyrion: "I understand, but it's all you say. You haven't completed one scene without mentioning it."
Oberyn: "It won't happen again. I promise."
Tyrion: "Great. So what do you like to do for fun?"
Oberyn: "I visit the brothels, and I enjoy a nice long walk."
Tyrion: "Really? I never did enjoy the outdoors. My father would take me into the mountains and..."
Oberyn: "HE KEELED MY SEESTER."
Oberyn: "What is it?"
Tyrion: "Everyone knows The Mountain killed your sister and her children. Could you stop repeating it?"
Oberyn: "I'm sorry. It just makes me angry."
Tyrion: "I understand, but it's all you say. You haven't completed one scene without mentioning it."
Oberyn: "It won't happen again. I promise."
Tyrion: "Great. So what do you like to do for fun?"
Oberyn: "I visit the brothels, and I enjoy a nice long walk."
Tyrion: "Really? I never did enjoy the outdoors. My father would take me into the mountains and..."
Oberyn: "HE KEELED MY SEESTER."
Goddamn, there's no stopping this khalasar.
SquiddyCracker
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Another point to D&D.
fallengorn
Bitches love smiley faces
Yeah, even I can't deny the increasing plausibility of the Euron = Daario theory anymore. It's definitely not in the realm of R+L=J yet, but I could definitely see it being true. It could be something only the show is dong, to essentially cut out Victarion's entire character while still keeping the overall framework of the plot intact. I would actually like this a lot, as unlike the book, the show hasn't created any obvious contradictions which would make the theory highly implausible. Hell, Daario doesn't even have to leave Slaver's Bay for it to work on the show. Either way, I can't call it crackpot anymore.
SquiddyCracker
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That makes a lot of sense.
It's the perfect cover, and he manages to uphold his vow to Dany (if that sort of thing is something he cares about even) - as his "sword" (e.g. his company) is still in her service.
Just imagine the look on people's faces when Daario turns out to be Euron, it will be the ultimate betrayalthon.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Throw an eyepatch on him, give him some rugged, greyjoy clothes, have his hair grow out a bit and he'll be fine.
They really nailed the Tyrion scenes in this episode. I'm really glad they played out the Bronn thing well. It wasn't that Bronn was backstabbing Tyrion, it was just that he knew going against The Mountain was suicidal.
bengraven
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If a train hitting you at high speed can cause your limbs to detach, I don't see how hitting a mountain after a fall at that speed couldn't.
If a train hitting you at high speed can cause your limbs to detach, I don't see how hitting a mountain after a fall at that speed couldn't.
Morrigan Stark
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In The Mentalist he speaks with a standard American accent. I think he's "faking" the accent for the show to make Dorne a bit more exotic.
Well I'm a purist, and I don't mind that line change so much, so...
I think "Only Catelyn" would have been the best of both worlds though.Yeah he reminded me of the Cardinal of Richelieu, lol. It looked a bit anachronistic, but it drove the point home that he's a little lord now.
Uh, as she should be. I thought she was way watered down in S2, it's about time she started killing some folks.
Because GRRM takes too much time to release each books and his hardcore readers get bored and/or insane.
do you really want to know??
Laurentius
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I recommend just waiting and seeing. The events after the fight will likely still surprise you.
I knew about the red wedding before hand, I don't think it matters anymore what I know and don't know really
To be fair it didn't really ruin my enjoyment of the scene either, guess I don't really care about spoilers. Don't detail it too much tho, just broad strokes
Ok I'll just wait then /shrug. The show/books are just fucking depressing tho, it's one of the few things I don't mind being spoiled, eases the pain lol.
toddhunter
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Basically:
* Oberyn never fights the Mountain. Just as they are about to get into it, Tywin puts an end to the "farce".
* Tyrion has to fight instead.
* As the mountain is about to chop him in half, Tyrion races forward and bites him in the balls. The crowd groans, even Tywin.
* For some reason (this is never explained properly) this is the Mountain's weakness or something as he goes down to the ground where Tyrion can easily defeat him.
* From there things are pretty much back to normal around King's Landing. The main difference is Tyrion is a bit less trusting and he doesn't have Bronn to back him up.
* Tyrion then holds a competition to find a new Bronn, the winner ends up being the Hound who has returned from dropping off Arya to Petyr/Sansa.
* But Tyrion doesn't want to be like Joffrey with his own dog. He wants only cat.
* Tyrion has to fight instead.
* As the mountain is about to chop him in half, Tyrion races forward and bites him in the balls. The crowd groans, even Tywin.
* For some reason (this is never explained properly) this is the Mountain's weakness or something as he goes down to the ground where Tyrion can easily defeat him.
* From there things are pretty much back to normal around King's Landing. The main difference is Tyrion is a bit less trusting and he doesn't have Bronn to back him up.
* Tyrion then holds a competition to find a new Bronn, the winner ends up being the Hound who has returned from dropping off Arya to Petyr/Sansa.
* But Tyrion doesn't want to be like Joffrey with his own dog. He wants only cat.
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