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USA-Age: Who are your Top 5 Americans?

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Me
Myself
I
...The guy typing this message
and uh...the person in my room.

I don't know, I guess Abraham Lincoln, Audie Murphy, Washington, Benjiman Franklin, and Martin Luther King Jr.
 
Al Gore, creator of the internet.

Seriously, what about guys like rockefeller and carnegie? They built the country.
 
CajoleJuice said:
If Albert Einstein counts, then Arnold does.

Arnold > Einstein

How about Arnold Einstein?

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Better Question: what are your top 5 ALIVE Americans?

1. Barack Obama
2. Paul Krugman
3. Nate Silver
4. Nick Hexum/SA Martinez
5. Joe Posnanski
 
No particular order

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Thomas Paine

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Thomas Jefferson

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Carl Sagan

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Dennis Kucinich

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Bill Nye (I actually agree with the guy who mentioned him. He got me interested in science.)
 
MLK: Greatest leader of civil rights
Franklin: Genius, inventor, and one of the greatest diplomats
Henry David Thoreau: didn't exactly invent, but set out a blue print for civil disobedience
Washington: had the support and political capital to take power permanently, but didn't
Madison: wrote the Bill of Rights
 
CharlieDigital said:
No mention of Bill Gates?

Jobs has done more for the PC industry than Gates. Just sayin'

I can't even name five for the Greatest Living Americans. All I've got are Lance Armstrong and Steve Jobs. Barack Obama could be on the list but he has yet to be fully proven as he hasn't done much yet.
 
Neil Armstrong (I thought of him before I saw the first post)

George Washington

Maybe Thomas Jefferson or Teddy Rossevelt, haven't make up my mind yet.

As for the rich people I pick Andrew Carnegie.

The last spot I want to give it to an entertainer, I think Hollywood is an essential part of the American experience, but I have no idea whom I will give it to. I don't like Chaplin and Disney. Maybe Orson Welles? Or Steven King? :lol Oh hell I will give it to Babe Ruth. :D
 
Let's see . . .
Ronald Reagan
George Washington
Sean Hannity
Billy Graham
and, umm. . . .
Robert La Follette
 
Chairman85 said:
A loose union of states vs. the British again?

I'm really not in the mood to get into an argument over this but there is no reason to be certain the war of 1812 would have happened in a Jeffersonian system. You do know we declared on Britain in that war, not the other way around, right?
 
George Washington
Benjamin Franklin
Abraham Lincoln
Thomas Edison
Franklin Delano Roosevelt


Theodore Roosevelt
Andrew Carnegie
Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler
Gen. George S. Patton
Howard Hughes
Martin Luther King




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EDIT: Holy crap, Wikipedia got me again. I don't even remember why I even went there... but I got caught up and read the entire wiki entry on: Neitschke. Cripes!!!!

This post was started about an hour ago and was half finished before I wandered off in another browser. Just hitting submit now. :lol
 
Gaborn said:
I'm really not in the mood to get into an argument over this but there is no reason to be certain the war of 1812 would have happened in a Jeffersonian system. You do know we declared on Britain in that war, not the other way around, right?
Aware. Also, aware no one's mind is going to be swayed by the other.
 
Gaborn said:
I'm really not in the mood to get into an argument over this but there is no reason to be certain the war of 1812 would have happened in a Jeffersonian system. You do know we declared on Britain in that war, not the other way around, right?

I'm really not sure what he's getting at, either. I don't loathe Hamilton and I'm quite aware of the struggle between the ideological forces at play and I like the result of that conflict, the Constitution and Bill of Rights that we have. I realize that Washington, someone I do respect and would certainly place on this list, regarded Hamilton and his advice rather highly.

I would also note that after Adams blessed one-term and out, the Democratic-Republican party held the presidency for 24 years, and I would regard all 3 of those presidents (Jefferson, Madison, Monroe) as amongst my favorites.
 
ImperialConquest said:
EDIT: Holy crap, Wikipedia got me again. I don't even remember why I even went there... but I got caught up and read the entire wiki entry on: Neitschke. Cripes!!!!

This post was started about an hour ago and was half finished before I wandered off in another browser. Just hitting submit now. :lol

Yeah, wikisurfing is a dangerous that way. The great thing is looking what tabs you have open after you realize what you have done.
 
Too many spots being wasted on founding fathers. Let's just lump them all together, they're the same basic guy anyway.
 
Borgnine said:
Too many spots being wasted on founding fathers. Let's just lump them all together, they're the same basic guy anyway.

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hear hear

I retract Jesus and put Lenny Bruce in instead.

I mean Ernest Borgnine.

Man won an Oscar and was in Baseketball.

Nobody can top that.
 
John Adams
Charles Lindbergh (Nazi controversy aside)
JFK
Bruce Springsteen
Capt. C.B. Sullenberger
 
Gaborn said:
I'm really not in the mood to get into an argument over this but there is no reason to be certain the war of 1812 would have happened in a Jeffersonian system. You do know we declared on Britain in that war, not the other way around, right?
Yes. And we also declared war on Germany in WWII. Doesn't mean war wasn't coming anyways.

I think he's trying to say that with Jefferson's small government ideals the country would have been weak and fallen to shambles once at war. Of course he overlooks the fact that in actuality we lost that war and kind of bluffed our way to a decent treaty. It's not like Hamilton's active government policies saved us or anything.

Although I would like to point out that as history progressed and we became embroiled in world affairs, we would never have become the superpower we are today if we had based our economy on Jeffersonian agrarianism. Hamilton saw the importance of manufacturing and down the road he was proven correct. The War of 1812 however does not seem to me to be a good example of that.

Borgnine said:
Too many spots being wasted on founding fathers. Let's just lump them all together, they're the same basic guy anyway.

Yeah why don't we just lump all the presidents together too, or anyone who served in public office or anyone who ever gave a speech. smh
 
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