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Valve + MS work on some "interesting" Portal 2 stuff, MS more open to Steam on 360
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snoopeasystreet
Member
This will end with Microsoft buying valve and turning steam into an xbox live client.
snoopeasystreet
Member
jgminto said:
A month of exclusivity on COD map packs doesn't come cheap.
Dead Prince
Banned
Portal 2 Season Pass
i can see it now.
i can see it now.
jgminto said:
The update needs testing. Testing costs money. You're not going to convince console manufacturers to let software onto their system if they've not confirmed that it doesn't, like, wipe the hard drive or the firmware, or worse (from their POV!) allow running of unsigned code on the system.
snoopeasystreet
Member
Actually, now that I think about it. It's probably adding the Robot Enrichment store to the 360 version. With rumors of MS introducing free to play and now that they've started selling the gears things, I could see them doing it.
dragonelite
Member
jgminto said:
Bandwidth and a other era when this gen started.
The convience of console gaming atleast for me was no patching and just put in and play.
Now you have day one patch and shit on consoles.
Probably next gen updates and stuff should be more flexible if sony and microsoft let the user use there own hdd.
1) Valve doesn't like Sony but likes Microsoft.
2) Sony pissed, gives Valve what they want.
3) Valve happy, Sony happy, Microsoft kind of pissed.
4) Microsoft pissed, gives Valve what they want.
5)
6) Everyone has given up something...
That's kind of how I understand this whole story.
2) Sony pissed, gives Valve what they want.
3) Valve happy, Sony happy, Microsoft kind of pissed.
4) Microsoft pissed, gives Valve what they want.
5)
Iwata (laughs)
That's kind of how I understand this whole story.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
jgminto said:
The main thinking behind it is that the old PC model of releasing broken games then patching them later doesn't translate over to consoles. So they put up a barrier, sure you can patch your game but it will cost you each time.
MS gives you the first update for free (everyone makes mistakes right?) then charges you for each patch after that. Sony charges for every patch regardless. The companies that get stuck in the middle of this are devs that want to constantly update their games and add stuff... not patch broken stuff.
The update system means well, but isn't a catch all for all games and should be revised next gen.
Vormund said:
Unless they handle it on a case-by-case basis - which runs the risks of cries of 'double standards', although I guess they already happen behind the scenes - it's going to be extremely tricky.
"Quantity of content" is a rather ill-defined concept, and trying to treat it as something quantifiable for this use is not going to work out well. Try it yourself; come up with a measurement, then turn it around and come up with a way a developer could exploit that, or alternatively, a developer who *should* benefit from that wouldn't be able to.
Either way, you're still basically asking a console manufacture to foot the bill for a developer to release stuff on their console. Ask yourself this: Where will the money come from? Most likely, increased licensing fees. Devs still lose out.
Dead Prince
Banned
they might also get around to patching TF2 as well.
The Librarian
Banned
I don't care about getting Steam on the 360. I just want that DLC.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Would there be a point now? 360 audiences are "flavor of the week" in a big, bad way. Does TF2 360 still have an active community?DMPrince said:
OldJadedGamer
Banned
enzo_gt said:
I like that idea actually.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I'm not sure TF2 would even fit in the 360's RAM with all the additions.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
No With the exception of having my portal 2 PC copy from my PS3 one, I really never found a use for Steam on PS3, so I doubt it's going to be useful on the 360.
Princess Skittles
Prince's's 'Skittle's
Good to know, I wonder if some people play it to have a pre-hat TF2 experience.Paco said:
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Metalic said:
I got Portal 2 to play with my friends on 360 but outside of getting a free PC copy... what were the benefits of having the Steam integration on the PS3 version?
OldJadedGamer said:
Steam achievements being intergrated with PS3's if you're playing on PS3 anyway.
Think of it as "low-end PC getting Steam and Steam options." And that's about it. You can have cross-platform play with PC players, you can (IIRC) invite and chat with PC players through Steam. You can get FREE DLC at Steam/Valve's discretion on PC/PS3, and you get a free PC (at least in Portal 2's case) copy for Steam/PC via Valve.
There's really no downside other than another service through a service: Steam connecting through PSN.
Stumpokapow said:
I don't think it would even need those. Just patch the game with the fixes. Those addons just ruined TF2 imo. The vanilla is still the best.
360 TF2 actually had a surprisingly decent community until Valve patched it with the class limit patch. That killed the game, what a horrible feature when you can't see what servers are using it.
AbsoluteZero
Banned
Rad- said:
I...I thought I was the only one.
sixteen-bit
Member
This is really good to hear.
AlphaTwo00
Member
Well you see, when you have updates, they take up bandwidth for people to download.jgminto said:
If MS has to host them, they want devs to pay for them. They ain't running a charity.
Littleberu
Banned
AlphaTwo00 said:
Not even close to why they have to pay.
Rad- said:
+1. Too bad the PC version is all HAT FORTRESS 2 LOLOL UNBALANACED CLASS WEAPONS AND NO VANILLA SERVERS FOR YOU TROLLOOLOLOLOL even on GAF. >:|
Oh, so it was them that broke my mojo and love for the 360 TF2. VALLLLLLLLVE! Y U NO WANT ME TO BREAK GRIDLOCKS AT SPY BECAUSE SHITTY SPIES ARE ON MY TEAM!?
angular graphics
Banned
Portal 2 mods on 360 (and sure enough then on the PS3 as well)? Seems so (?).
http://thisismyjoystick.com/blog/feature/interview-chet-faliszek-valve/
http://thisismyjoystick.com/blog/feature/interview-chet-faliszek-valve/
angular graphics
Banned
Yes, something definitely seems to be up... http://www.gamebanana.com/news/20059
Once again he uses the word "interesting" to describe a future change for Portal 2 and how that change will relate to "handling custom content".
So, the facts:
1) they plan to do something "interesting" about handling custom content in Portal 2 on PC
2) something "interesting" that is related to how modding on consoles hasn't caught on will be done with DLC2
3) Microsoft is listening to them and they are ok with the openess they are asking from them to do something "interesting"
My conclusion: either Portal 2 custom maps will somehow be available on all 3 platforms, and/or they are making a simple map editor for all 3 platforms...
Once again he uses the word "interesting" to describe a future change for Portal 2 and how that change will relate to "handling custom content".
So, the facts:
1) they plan to do something "interesting" about handling custom content in Portal 2 on PC
2) something "interesting" that is related to how modding on consoles hasn't caught on will be done with DLC2
3) Microsoft is listening to them and they are ok with the openess they are asking from them to do something "interesting"
My conclusion: either Portal 2 custom maps will somehow be available on all 3 platforms, and/or they are making a simple map editor for all 3 platforms...
angular graphics
Banned
*Le bump*
funkystudent
Member
if I had to guess there just gonna take some user mods and release them on consoles and DLC.
Maybe they are gonna release that L4D portal map someone made?
Maybe they are gonna release that L4D portal map someone made?