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Venezuela moves clocks forward 30 min to save power
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bobbychalkers
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Daylight savings is already evil, an extra 30 minutes is unspeakable.
Barrylocke
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Why did Chavez move the clocks back in the first place?
FullMetaltech
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Stop using Hairdryers ladies!
Actually, in what is probably the only good thing Maduro has done or will ever do, he is removing a stupid time zone change that Chavez placed on Venezuela.
Chavez, giving no fucks, just decided that Venezuela should have an irregular time zone. If it was 5pm in New York, in Venezuela time it was 4:30.
DST isn't evil, it's shifting back an hour in the fall that's evil.
Stop playing videogames gentlemen!
TyphoonStruggle
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ColtraineGF
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Good luck to the hundreds of programmers working on time libraries when that happens...
America is evil or something
In what way is this odd?
People, especially world leaders, rarely do things without some kind of reason. I feel like calling something like this arbitrary and chalking it up to the whim of a madman is about the least mental energy you can invest in trying to understand or explain something like this.
NHarmonic.
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These meassures are worrying. Hope the people of venezuela stay strong with all that crysis.
Hexa
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OK. You tell us. How was that not completely arbitrary and the whim of a madman? Because the most Google is giving me for an explanation is that he did it "moved by claims that it will help the metabolism and productivity of his fellow citizens" which overall just sounds to me like the whims of a madman.
But SpongeBob.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Are you familiar with the late Hugo Chavez? Or socialist dictators in general?
I have no idea, it's hard enough for me to find a direct source for this news let alone something that happened 9 years ago. And who cares, really? My point is that buying into and propagating these caricatures of America's enemies isn't helping anyone, and I feel like Occam's razor supports the notion that there was some reason that led to the actions of a government administration, as opposed to the explanation we're seeing in this thread, which is basically that it was a random, singularly unexplainable event.
Yes, Hugo Chavez and all socialist leaders are insane.
Skellig Gra
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I don't know if I'd say hilarious. Seems like really dire times down there.
This is on top of trying to make people work a 4 day week and the dam that provides 70% of Venezuela's electricity is close to going offline.
The 4 day week sounds nice but in the middle of a massive recession the last thing you want is 1 day's less pay, 1 day less you can do business, and for fixed operating costs per day to increase.
The 4 day week sounds nice but in the middle of a massive recession the last thing you want is 1 day's less pay, 1 day less you can do business, and for fixed operating costs per day to increase.
Well to be fair, it does say "government workers", so it doesn't seem to directly apply to businesses and who knows if the employees are salaried.
I wouldn't really call adding fairly subjective slander "fixing" it. You could throw in "totalitarian" or "terrorist" too if you wanted, I guess.
No, Maduro is literally insane. Venezuela is in the heaps right now and Maduro chooses to blame their problems not on their own making but of foreign agents trying to bring down the will of the people. Seriously it takes two seconds of looking at the way Venezuela is right now to see that it is not being run by anyone sane.
enanogrande
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Threads like this make me sick. So much fucking ignorance.
Um he changed the constitution to effectively guarantee himself the job for life and would still be in charge if he hadn't died. He was elected but it is hardly a crazy slander to call him a dictator.
Obama gets that accusation for executive orders.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Ooooh. Okay.
So that's an accurate summary of your thoughts? All socialist leaders are insane? Not really sure what you're getting at.
So what are we talking about here? Is he depressed? Does he have dementia? Schizophrenia?
Yes he did that (I'm actually opposed to leaders removing the term limit) but there were still elections needed to stay in power. Calling him a dictator is unnecessary and wrong even though he had authoritarian quirks.
As for Maduro, he is very incompetent and has shown to be incompetent from the start. He just isn't able to play the political games you need to play to stop the economy from being sabotaged (he helps sabotaging it instead).
LiquidSolid
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How so? Moving the clock forward means you get an hour less sleep, moving it back means you get an hour more. I love it when daylight saving ends.
Anyway, pretty sad that something like this is probably the first positive story that's come out of Venezuela for a while.
Most of the economic meltdown isn't strictly Maduros fault, tog be fair. It's because Chavez turned Venezuela into a petronation. When the price of oil collapses, so does Venezuela.
http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/032515/how-does-price-oil-affect-venezuelas-economy.asp
Maduro can be perfectly blamed for his completely inane and heavy handed attempts at solving the issue, though. Especially the moronic price controls and attempts to cover up how bad the situation really is.
Coriolanus
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The electoral process in venezuela is, surprisingly, one of the most transparent in the world, fwiw.
Hard to claim that a dude is a dictator when voter turnout is at 80%, well above most countries in the globe, they invite a fuckload of international entities to observe the process, and then the goverment's candidate wins by a very tiny margin.
This, of course, doesnt mean that the process is completely free from fuckery since evidently, no process is, but it does mean that what fuckery does happen doesn't take place at the polling stations.
Hard to claim that a dude is a dictator when voter turnout is at 80%, well above most countries in the globe, they invite a fuckload of international entities to observe the process, and then the goverment's candidate wins by a very tiny margin.
This, of course, doesnt mean that the process is completely free from fuckery since evidently, no process is, but it does mean that what fuckery does happen doesn't take place at the polling stations.
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