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[Wandering Robot]

Who's right? Who's wrong? We'll know for sure in around a month. This just goes to show that GAF is quick to freak out over possibilities. :')
Doesn't really make a difference to me, anyway. The architecture isn't suuuuuuper different.

 

[wild wild rice]

"Near Xbox One" works for me.

 

[jroc74]

Well damn.

Makes me waver even more in that other Switch thread now...lol.

Will it be a step above the Wii U is all I ask....

And this is just gonna make some double down on it being a handheld first instead of home console first.

Like me.

 

[Meesh]

I'm confused... don't know if I'm good or not with this... lol

 

[NateDrake]

So I'm confused then. So you confirm that now is not pascal based too?

I'm looking to things and trying to see what's going on. I had a handful of contacts sharing Pascal with me over the summer. Trying to figure out what's going on.

 

[Vena]

Well damn.

Makes me waver even more in that other Switch thread now...lol.

Will it be a step above the Wii U is all I ask....

And this is just gonna make some double down on it being a handheld first instead of home console first.

Like me.

Regardless of Maxwell or Pascal, it will be multiple times a WiiU.

 

[lensoftruth]

Because people see "older Maxwell architecture" in the OP and their brain checks out.

It's like those threads about ram, people just see numbers and generations. It's pretty funny to be honest

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Will it be a step above the Wii U is all I ask....

Ummmm.

Yes.

 

[Astral Dog]

Will it be a step above the Wii U is all I ask....

.

Yes

 

[facetheslayer92]

The article states it's near Xbox One. That seems beyond most people's expectations. Why would the archeticture change your mind if it's still as powerful as most thought previously?

I thought for sure it would use Pascal, but this rumor makes me less likely to pay a premium at launch. I knew the Switch would be underpowered obviously, but I'd have to see the launch lineup and Virtual Console first before rendering judgement. $199 is what I would pay as of right now.

 

[Bleeether]

Dead on launch, huehuehue

 

[Plum]

Basically no new info, outside a different name. Specs are the same, teraflops are, size... same as the old info, but somehow "Nintendo sucks, I'm out!!!".

It's now less than a month until 2017 yet the "Times GAF overreacted in 2016" thread just keeps getting more content.

The January event alone is going to make next year's thread double the size of this year's.

 

[EloquentM]

Well damn.

Makes me waver even more in that other Switch thread now...lol.

Will it be a step above the Wii U is all I ask....

And this is just gonna make some double down on it being a handheld first instead of home console first.

Like me.

whether they use maxwell or pascal they'd have to try very hard to underperform a Wii U...

 

[Persona7]

Why would Nvidia stockpile millions of X1 chips when NO ONE placed orders? Did they know that Nintendo would want them in the future?

One reason could be Shield expectations not panning out.

 

[DeuceGamer]

Because people see "older Maxwell architecture" in the OP and their brain checks out.

Apparently. I admit the article seems to be poorly comprised, but if we are believing part of it we should believe all of it. If it's Xbox One Level, it would far surpass my expectations.

I also think the way the article was written has a lot to do with some people's reactions. Nintendo "kiddie cartoon graphics" and all. What is that all about?!

 

[Schnozberry]

I didn't comment on retail units. I said Pascal back in July based on information I was hearing and being told. Today I said I heard final dev kits were still Maxwell-based a few weeks ago.

Well, we know it isn't bog standard Tegra X1. The chip has been customized to have USB 3.1, as it couldn't use USB C for video without it. I'm just hoping they are shrinking down to 16nm.

 

[Garrett Hawke]

Why would Nvidia stockpile millions of X1 chips when NO ONE placed orders? Did they know that Nintendo would want them in the future?

They over estimated demand of their own devices?

 

[Deadbeat]

Regardless of Maxwell or Pascal, it will be multiple times a WiiU.

1xWiiU?

 

[Graphics Horse]

The difference between Maxwell 16nm and Pascal is minimal...

Being 16nm is the main thing, the fear is they've made some weird deal on 20nm chips.

 

[chaosblade]

Because people see "older Maxwell architecture" in the OP and their brain checks out.

I think most people are writing that off as unrealistic. Especially if this thing is running Maxwell. Switch being equal to or better than XBO AND running Maxwell is the kind of thing to make a stupid bet on. Maybe if portability wasn't a factor, but it is.

 

[OryoN]

Eurogamer reported that the development kits use normal off the shelf X1 chips. The article Nvidia released doesn't specifically say that they designed a new chip either.

With an active cooling solution that was pretty loud. Clearly a way to "make ends meet" until the actual custom chips/final hardware is ready.

Also, that last paragraph in the OP doesn't make sense; for the reasons some have already pointed out, in addition to the fact that Nvidia's modern architecture(since Maxwell iirc) is internally designed small, then scaled up accordingly(as apposed to starting big, then downsized). So there's really nothing stopping Pascal architecture - whether Switch uses it or not - from being used in low-powered devices.

 

[JaseC]

This flies in the face of multiple other rumors and sources

I wouldn't consider Nvidia's blog post evidence to the contrary. "The high-efficiency scalable processor includes an NVIDIA GPU based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce gaming graphics cards" is a PR fluff phrase that doesn't necessarily refer to the GTX 1000 series. Even the author of the Gamespot article makes a point to say that Pascal is only "potentially" the case.

 

[Vena]

1xWiiU?

Multiple meaning greater than 1.

 

[ProtomanNeo]

This changes nothing as far as I'm concerned. We've already heard pretty strong reports of ports up and running on the Switch. So it at least falls in the general realm of the Xbox one and PS4

 

[nogoodnamesleft]

Maxwell far surpasses the Xbone and the PS4.

Um, what?

 

[Jawbreaker]

The article states it's near Xbox One. That seems beyond most people's expectations. Why would the archeticture change your mind if it's still as powerful as most thought previously?

The same article says it would have trouble running the latest "high end" Bone and PS4 games. It's kind of a mess.

 

[Astral Dog]

1xWiiU?

More like 2x 3x

 

[J@hranimo]

1xWiiU?

Do you realize how dumb this is?

 

[DeuceGamer]

I thought for sure it would use Pascal, but this rumor makes me less likely to pay a premium at launch. I knew the Switch would be underpowered obviously, but I'd have to see the launch lineup and Virtual Console first before rendering judgement. $199 is what I would pay as of right now.

This is what I don't understand. If it delivers the same, or more power, than what was rumored in a theoretical Pascal chip, why is that an issue?

 

[gogogow]

Because people see "older Maxwell architecture" in the OP and their brain checks out.

Pretty much. People read it's not Pascal, but Maxwell, so it must be old as fuck.

Maxwell X1 is a chip from Q2 2015.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Finally someone is going to sit with 10k at the table during lunch.
He was getting so lonely.

 

[KratosEnergyDrink]

funny thread.

the article not so much, the writer seems to have little knowledge of technical stuff.

 

[jroc74]

Ok thanks for all the responses...lol.

Above the Wii U, good to know.

 

[Shahadan]

Why would Nvidia stockpile millions of X1 chips when NO ONE placed orders? Did they know that Nintendo would want them in the future?

Not an indication of anything but they canceled a shield tablet using X1 chips this year iirc, probably because of the switch

 

[Vena]

The same article says it would have trouble running the latest "high end" Bone and PS4 games. It's kind of a mess.

Well that info also flies in the face of what Matt told us...

There's a lot of weird inconsistencies in/within this article, and with other info we have.

 

[lt519]

I mean keyword "based" on Maxwell architecture and Emily throwing quotes around "Maxwell." Probably a Maxwell chip but trying to infer performance based solely on that is a guessing game at best.

Regardless near x-one level graphics on a portable, sign me up.

 

[sfried]

More like 2x 3x

I thought somewhere more like 5x? I dunno anymore.

I'll wait and see the presentation.

 

[Captain Europe]

Why is everyone freaking out? The article states it won't do 4K and that it's closer to Xbone, isn't that something we've known for ages now?

 

[bounchfx]

people want lower prices then complain about what it takes to get them. seems about right.

if the graphics are simply better than the Wii U (which they will be), then I'm not gonna have a problem with it. Wii U had some pretty games. The big issue here is third party parity, but yeah.. I guess we'll see how it goes.

 

[Tom Nook Sawyer]

Finally someone is going to sit with 10k at the table during lunch.
He was getting so lonely.

Ice cold

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Well that info also flies in the face of what Matt told us...

There's a lot of weird inconsistencies in/within this article, and with other info we have.

I thought it was another dude that said it would run those games with no problems.

 

[Nanashrew]

funny thread.

the article not so much, the writer seems to have little knowledge of technical stuff.

Believe it or not, Dean Takahashi has been a tech journalist for a long time. But yeah... The way this article is written is terrible and he makes so many contradictions in it as if he doesn't understand it. It's bizarre.

 

[DeuceGamer]

Well that info also flies in the face of what Matt told us...

There's a lot of weird inconsistencies in/within this article, and with other info we have.

May have missed it but what did Matt say?

 

[chaosblade]

people want lower prices then complain about what it takes to get them. seems about right.

if the graphics are simply better than the Wii U (which they will be), then I'm not gonna have a problem with it. Wii U had some pretty games. The big issue here is third party parity, but yeah.. I guess we'll see how it goes.

Pascal is on a smaller node, therefore cheaper. Maxwell would be paying more for less performance. That is only for manufacturing and disregards licensing, but that's much more difficult to put a number on.

 

[OrbitalBeard]

Well that info also flies in the face of what Matt told us...

There's a lot of weird inconsistencies in/within this article, and with other info we have.

Dude needs to enter this thread!

 

[ChrisMahoney]

Why is everyone freaking out? The article states it won't do 4K and that it's closer to Xbone, isn't that something we've known for ages now?

Because Pascal is much more power efficient and us consumers hope for the best possible product?

 

[psyfi]

I'm happy either way.

 

[Otakumegane]

This doesn't even make much sense, as Pascal is better than Maxwell in nearly every way and must be readily available for production even months ago. Given the choice, I don't see Nintendo deliberately choosing to use Maxwell over Pascal especially due to switch's partial handheld nature.

I'll wait on this. The info doesn't seem too accurate.

 

[Nanashrew]

Why is everyone freaking out? The article states it won't do 4K and that it's closer to Xbone, isn't that something we've known for ages now?

Yep.

There's really no need for alarm or "sky is falling posts."

 

[Deadbeat]

Do you realize how dumb this is?

Just preparing you for disappointment.