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Venture Bros. Season 3
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Mike M said:
Exactly. This is what I don't understand. The Guild is a (basically) public organization. You can apply, they have a rulebook that people like Brock and Venture quote from.
But then other times, that is contradicted.
The timeline of the show has just gotten extremely convoluted, to the point that it's a little distracting. I'd like to see the timeline of events depicted in the show listed in sequential order. The earliest thing we've seen is with Venture's (great?) Grandfather in The Orb, right?
fallengorn
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That was Aleister Crowley.Ventrue said:
Already ordered.Gribbix said:
The inclusion of Aleister Crowley and Eugene Sandow is great. I had never heard of either of them, but their inclusion is totally appropriate. I always enjoy taking a wikipedia tour after every episode to check on all the references. Unlike most reference heavy shows, the references tend to extend beyond mere name dropping and instead greatly expand the fiction.
I absolutely want to live in a world where Mark Twain, Oscar Wilde, Eugene Sandow, and Aleister Crowley have banded together to fight Nikolai Tesla. I find it surprising that Thomas Edison was not part of the their organization as well.
Tom_Cody said:
I agree, I dont know the exact timeline that the Zephry thing was supposed to be going on, I imagine sometime in the 1910's or 1920's, maybe a bit earlier. They need to somehow bring in Grover Clevaland and his time machine into forming the group. Also, an explenation of why the rusty venture show had a URL would be nice. :lol
The creator's have never been overly concerned with continuity on issues like this, but It's still fun to speculate.Mike M said:
The two clearest bookends I've found would be Eugene Sandow's rise to prominence around 1890 and Oscar Wilde's death in 1900.
Another interesting thing I've realized is that Thomas Edison invented the cylindrical phonograph that Brock used throughout the episode, another indirect reference to Edison, in addition to his heated rivalry with Nikolai Tesla.
tralfazz said:
Wow, my anticipation for the finale just went through the roof.
The first confirmed location for season 4 has already been revealed as
The Sovereign/David Bowie's HQ. I feel pretty confident that Bowie will tie into the finale and it would be amazing if he were connected to Tesla and the Guild's founding.
Edit: Another interesting note on this topic: apparently Mark Twain and Tesla were good friends. It has been a lot of fun researching all these historic figures and their connections to each other.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Anyone find it a funny coincidence that the Dr. Venture of the past sounded a lot like the Monarch?GDJustin said:
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
I'd also thought they might have just been trying give him a typical turn of the century voice. Like the ones that pop up in old newsreels etc.Tom_Cody said:
heliosRAzi
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It'd be really awesome of the real David Bowie voiced himself.
A Link to the Past
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I hope Henchman No. 1 survives.
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
thats what i was getting at yes.
also, cant wait for molotov and her girl army. i've seen one or two pics of it, didn't realize it was going to be in the finale. Im excited.
Another thing I don't understand is the "Rusty Venture Cartoon" was it a cartoon or was supposed to be "real" like live action or something.
At the beginning of this episode you saw a badly drawn jonas sr and kano, rusty and Colonel Gentleman looked mostly normal. So was that supposed to be like a cartoon show or not? Why would they put Jonas Sr getting his ass beat and Rusty having to shoot a guy in what is supposed to be a kids show? That seems like something that would really happen.
I'm confused.
also, cant wait for molotov and her girl army. i've seen one or two pics of it, didn't realize it was going to be in the finale. Im excited.
Another thing I don't understand is the "Rusty Venture Cartoon" was it a cartoon or was supposed to be "real" like live action or something.
At the beginning of this episode you saw a badly drawn jonas sr and kano, rusty and Colonel Gentleman looked mostly normal. So was that supposed to be like a cartoon show or not? Why would they put Jonas Sr getting his ass beat and Rusty having to shoot a guy in what is supposed to be a kids show? That seems like something that would really happen.
I'm confused.
kame-sennin
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LAUGHTREY said:
I would have appreciated this being spoiler tagged.
LAUGHTREY said:
I think it was supposed to be a cartoon, they just decided to be extreme about it for shits and giggles.
Fun Factor
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LAUGHTREY said:
Did he really kill him?
He never said yes or no to Brock's question.
I want
Jonas's death
GrotesqueBeauty
Banned
Is it possible thatFTWer said:
he's actually alive,
LAUGHTREY said:
I was thinking about this yesterday. I think we are supposed to consider it to be accurate depictions of Rusty's childhood. This is interesting since Thadeus is the failure that he is, and Rusty was a hero Boy Adventurer, but every indication we have so far is that it is true to life.
I think more than anything else the cartoon is meant to explain his fame in the show's world. He was a famous boy adventurer as a child, but I can imagine that it would be difficult to explain how he gained fame from boy adventuring alone. It also makes it easier for the writers to draw parallels between Rusty and other successful child actors who went onto to fail at adulthood. I can image that the writing in those scenes would become very abstract if they weren't simply able to refer to him as a cartoon star.
Tom_Cody said:
Frankly I cannot believe that Tesla is evil in this case. That simply cannot be. I mean, Edison? Definitely. The man was the Microsoft of the turn-of-the-century (although, in all fairness, it seems he actually developed useful things on his own rather than just stealing them, being in the right place at the right time, or buying them out) and is, along with Issac Newton (utter bastard, strong claims that he ripped off calculus from a Russian chap) one of the two historical figures I would most like to go back in time and hit repeatedly. Tesla, though far more of a mad scientist, was a genuinely awesome man. I'll also cite the Mark Twain connection as well which makes it seem a tad unlikely that they would be in opposition.
I strongly suspect that Crowley is really the one who ends up founding the Guild. Especially after how he's ejected in this episode.
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