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Verizon doesn't want customers who want cheaper phone plans

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I've been using T-mobile for years. The service may be spotty, but my bill is $20 month AND customer service is amazing. I don't understand how they can charge 2-3x times as much for a slightly better connection.

I also may be one of the few people who liked being in a contract. After a contract renewal I got to pick out a free or mostly free phone. Now I have to drop monthly payments. Suck it T-mobile.
 
I'm not sure if I want to go to T-mobile and pick up the $30 plan and just use Hangouts dialer when I'm on wifi, or try Fi. I wish I could get a 6 inch phone just to try out for a week and see if the Nexus 6 is as impractical as it looks.

Went from 4.7" phone to the N6, and it's the most practical device I've ever owned. The size is amazing for 1440p video and pictures, gaming, and pretty much everything. Bigger is better. It takes like 1 day to get used to the size, and then it's really hard to go back to tiny screens.
 
are you fucking kidding me son?

you link me to a novel of how to bypass things? i want a phone at the price and plan i desire, i don't want to jump through hoops upon hoops

So what you're saying is you didn't want unlimited data. Well, fine then. You didn't want it and so you didn't get it.
 
Could not pay me to go to T-Mobile. Service sucks on I-80 up to Tahoe and I-5 down to LA from the bay area. Last time I drove to LA I had working internet radio the entire trip. You can't even do that on T-Mobile since it drops back to EDGE (my MIL has T-Mobile, she ended up using my iPad as a wifi hotspot to get reliable phone service, the irony). You have to take CA-99 if you want working service which is an hour longer.

I don't want to have to worry about whether where I'm going I'm going to be able to get cell service. If I go on vacation I don't have to worry about whether the hotel's wifi sucks balls because if it does I have my phone and I can be reasonably confident that wherever there are people it will probably work. And I'll pay Verizon more than Bargain John's not-really-that-much-cheaper Uncarrier for that.

Seriously though, my last bill was $220.93 for three phone lines and two tablets. T-Mobile for the same service, which would have fairly annoying lack of data sharing, would be $130 per month on a good month. But now I have to pay for the phones.

So the difference in price over 24 months I pay $18.75/mo for my phone, $18.75/mo for my wife's phone and $12.50/mo for my friend's phone. So now I'm up to $180/mo for far shittier service. The difference is $40/mo. It's just not that important to me to save $40/mo and not have a workable data service on the most trafficked highway in California.
 
Yeah, i switched to AT&T from Verizon in December and att is horseshit in comparison. I never knew what dropped calls, dropped signal or slow as shit mobile Internet was like until now.

This. I switch back to Verizon after 3 months of Att. Att and Verizon are the same price anyways.
 
Could not pay me to go to T-Mobile. Service sucks on I-80 up to Tahoe and I-5 down to LA from the bay area. Last time I drove to LA I had working internet radio the entire trip. You can't even do that on T-Mobile since it drops back to EDGE (my MIL has T-Mobile, she ended up using my iPad as a wifi hotspot to get reliable phone service, the irony). You have to take CA-99 if you want working service which is an hour longer.

Really? I just went up to Tahoe and down to LA last year and I had H+ all the way. (I disable LTE on my phone most of the time.) The only issue I have with Tmo is more spotty service indoor. Otherwise, even the LTE speed is better than what I had on Verizon probably due to less congestion.

We consolidated both my side of family and my wife side of family into a single plan. So non-pooled data is good for my case. We are basically saving 50% of monthly bill at $150 after tax for 7 lines. It might go up a bit for a couple lines after the promotional 2.5G data runs out but that's less of a concern due to unlimited music streaming that most of the lines don't need more data.
 
i am inclined to agree. unless theres something better, people should be ready to pay the price for its quality, cause FIOS is simply amazing.
FiOS lost there edge too now. I had FiOS for like 2 years and sometime last year TWC upgraded my area so we could get speeds up to 300 mbps download for like 70$. I called Verizon and told them I was going to leave unless they can match it or reduce my bill. They said so so I signed up with TWC and get 300 mbps for the same price as I was getting 50 mbps with Verizon FiOS.
 
Hm... I pay $90 for 3 lines on Cricket. With 3 lines getting 2.5GB of data. On Verizon I would get a total of 10GB of shared data for the three lines for $125 (assuming I bring my own device).
 
Lets see here Verizon. When I was with them 2 years ago, it cost me around $90/mo for only 450 mins/1000 text/300mb data. Numbers could be off slightly. With Tmobile, I pay only $50 for unlimited minutes/texts/and unlimited data with 2.5gb as high speed. Service for me is just as good as Verizon. Verizon is overpriced to hell.
 
Could not pay me to go to T-Mobile. Service sucks on I-80 up to Tahoe and I-5 down to LA from the bay area. Last time I drove to LA I had working internet radio the entire trip. You can't even do that on T-Mobile since it drops back to EDGE (my MIL has T-Mobile, she ended up using my iPad as a wifi hotspot to get reliable phone service, the irony). You have to take CA-99 if you want working service which is an hour longer.

I don't want to have to worry about whether where I'm going I'm going to be able to get cell service. If I go on vacation I don't have to worry about whether the hotel's wifi sucks balls because if it does I have my phone and I can be reasonably confident that wherever there are people it will probably work. And I'll pay Verizon more than Bargain John's not-really-that-much-cheaper Uncarrier for that.

Seriously though, my last bill was $220.93 for three phone lines and two tablets. T-Mobile for the same service, which would have fairly annoying lack of data sharing, would be $130 per month on a good month. But now I have to pay for the phones.

So the difference in price over 24 months I pay $18.75/mo for my phone, $18.75/mo for my wife's phone and $12.50/mo for my friend's phone. So now I'm up to $180/mo for far shittier service. The difference is $40/mo. It's just not that important to me to save $40/mo and not have a workable data service on the most trafficked highway in California.

1. Do you spend the majority of your day on the highway?
2. I never have connection problems on I-5 north of LA.
 
The $30 plan I have on T-Mobile is unlimited data. Not Unlimited, then throttled. Literally unlimited 4g. If you're paying $30 for less than unlimited you're getting screwed


Wi-Fi calling still uses minutes.

Wow. They upgraded it. Didn't realize it was now unlimited.

$30/mo for that is a great deal.

Could not pay me to go to T-Mobile. Service sucks on I-80 up to Tahoe and I-5 down to LA from the bay area. Last time I drove to LA I had working internet radio the entire trip. You can't even do that on T-Mobile since it drops back to EDGE (my MIL has T-Mobile, she ended up using my iPad as a wifi hotspot to get reliable phone service, the irony). You have to take CA-99 if you want working service which is an hour longer.

I don't want to have to worry about whether where I'm going I'm going to be able to get cell service. If I go on vacation I don't have to worry about whether the hotel's wifi sucks balls because if it does I have my phone and I can be reasonably confident that wherever there are people it will probably work. And I'll pay Verizon more than Bargain John's not-really-that-much-cheaper Uncarrier for that.

Seriously though, my last bill was $220.93 for three phone lines and two tablets. T-Mobile for the same service, which would have fairly annoying lack of data sharing, would be $130 per month on a good month. But now I have to pay for the phones.

So the difference in price over 24 months I pay $18.75/mo for my phone, $18.75/mo for my wife's phone and $12.50/mo for my friend's phone. So now I'm up to $180/mo for far shittier service. The difference is $40/mo. It's just not that important to me to save $40/mo and not have a workable data service on the most trafficked highway in California.

I've made the drive from SF to LA down I-5. T-Mobile service all the way.

Verizon can't even manage a solid data signal from SF -> San Jose on 280. Try that and you're "officially" in 4G coverage, but you're going to end up with 3G and/or no signal at all.
 
I've been using T-mobile for years. The service may be spotty, but my bill is $20 month AND customer service is amazing. I don't understand how they can charge 2-3x times as much for a slightly better connection.

I also may be one of the few people who liked being in a contract. After a contract renewal I got to pick out a free or mostly free phone. Now I have to drop monthly payments. Suck it T-mobile.

The whole point of the OP is that Verizon doesn't want the people who are okay with $20 a month and spotty service. They prefer to offer better service and charge more. From the perspective of an operating mobile communications provider, someone has to pay for all the network upgrades and maintenance and that someone is the customer. So as far as Verizon is concerned, they like charging more for better service because that money can be reinvested in the network. This is why T-Mobile's network can never get better, because they have to charge less, they have fewer customers to begin with, and so they have less money to improve their network.

Meanwhile Verizon covers 97% of their network footprint with LTE. I don't even know what it's like not having LTE anymore. With the exception of a few deadspots I've encountered in buildings where nobody has cell signal no matter what provider they have, if I have a cell signal, I have LTE.

Furthermore it's nice knowing I can depend on my cell phone to have a signal when I need it. My car's radiator blew up on the way home in some nowhere bumfucksville last year. If I didn't have signal, I would have been pretty fucked, no way to call a friend to help me and no way to call AAA to get a tow. This is more important to me than my phone bill being $20 a month.
 
The whole point of the OP is that Verizon doesn't want the people who are okay with $20 a month and spotty service. They prefer to offer better service and charge more. From the perspective of an operating mobile communications provider, someone has to pay for all the network upgrades and maintenance and that someone is the customer. So as far as Verizon is concerned, they like charging more for better service because that money can be reinvested in the network. This is why T-Mobile's network can never get better, because they have to charge less, they have fewer customers to begin with, and so they have less money to improve their network.

Meanwhile Verizon covers 97% of their network footprint with LTE. I don't even know what it's like not having LTE anymore. With the exception of a few deadspots I've encountered in buildings where nobody has cell signal no matter what provider they have, if I have a cell signal, I have LTE.

Furthermore it's nice knowing I can depend on my cell phone to have a signal when I need it. My car's radiator blew up on the way home in some nowhere bumfucksville last year. If I didn't have signal, I would have been pretty fucked, no way to call a friend to help me and no way to call AAA to get a tow. This is more important to me than my phone bill being $20 a month.


Ah, I pay less with AT&T and get good coverage where I go. What little area i don't get coverage it's not worth paying more per month to get (it's areas I am not in often... like at most maybe once a year if even that).

I mean, even AT&T is a better deal than Verizon (and they're the other half of the big two) and at least for where I go I don't see a difference.
 
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