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VG Tech: Bioshock PS4 vs PS3 Frame Rate Test
- Thread starter Nachtfalke
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drangleic tourism
Member
Oh thank fuck. I want to give the remaster a shot, but if it doesn't sit well with me because of the changes I'll just replay the PC original.
It's definitely time for another playthrough though, and these threads are just making it harder to wait for the PC remaster.
Oh well, just wait another decade for the next remaster, maybe they'll do it right that time.
7echnicolor
Member
How does the Xbox One version compare?
I'll watch again and see if I notice anything. Usually screen-tearing is like someone violently attacking me with a pineapple, so I'd be surprised if I overlooked it somehow.
Here's the worst example:
https://youtu.be/HKTtjmfxi2s?t=293
The red lines at the side of the image are meant to represent screen tearing.
Finale Fireworker
Member
Please let me know because I am standing in front of a locked box in the basement that says "OPEN IN CASE OF BAD REMASTER" and I don't know what's in it other than that there's no going back once it's open.
TheMoon
Member
same, played and platinumed it perfectly fine without ever thinking about frames.
Is it possible the test is misinterpreting a special effect? Because that doesn't look like screen-tearing to me. It looks like the distortion from the gun's heat exhaust.
UPDATE: Or stepping through a waterfall, it would appear.
LOL! Oh man, I'm really curious what's in there. Take one for the team...
Finale Fireworker
Member
Is it possible the test is misinterpreting a special effect? Because that doesn't look like screen-tearing to me. It looks like the distortion from the gun's heat exhaust.
UPDATE: Or stepping through a waterfall, it would appear.
LOL! Oh man, I'm really curious what's in there. Take one for the team...
I opened it...
There's just a note...
It says "There was a SOLUTION here. It's gone now."
Sounds like, whatever it was, some poor soul already got to it when the Silent Hill Collection hit PS3.
That means... I have nothing. I am trapped here. I am stuck with a bad BioShock remaster. This is my Hell.
This is what happens when Ken Levine leaves the company.
That handsome, beer-swilling monkey-man with an amazing imagination and a heart of gold.
All he wanted was us to stop making SFM porn of Elizabeth.
This is karma.
Doesn't seem to be the case I'm afraid. Here's a shoddy screengrab from the video showing a very obvious tear.
VG Tech likely uses the same, or a similar, algorithm to Digital Foundry and whilst it's definitely fallible I don't think it's got it wrong this time, especially with the massive drops in framerate the tears accompany.
EDIT: Here's a DF video explaining how they monitor screen tears: https://youtu.be/KVg19CbkXR4?t=311 and if VG Tech is using similar or the same software they can check just as easily to avoid errors.
Aw, shit. Well, hopefully it's extremely rare and only happens during intense moments. It seemed to nearly coincide with the player stepping through the waterfall, so I didn't even notice it.Doesn't seem to be the case I'm afraid. Here's a shoddy screengrab from the video showing a very obvious tear.
VG Tech likely uses the same, or a similar, algorithm to Digital Foundry and whilst it's definitely fallible I don't think it's got it wrong this time, especially with the massive drops in framerate the tears accompany.
The Hamburglar
Banned
30fps really is ass. Can't see how people say they can't tell the difference. What is 30fps even good for? open world 3rd person games and rpgs?
To introduce consoles into graphics discussions.
They messed up the water in the Bioshock remaster?. Really? REALLY? *sigh* This is basically like messing up the fog effects in a Silent Hill remaster.
Not buying then. Too bad. I was really interested in this since I did not play BS2 or any of the DLC.
The comments from these Gamespot guys about the water are even funnier now. So much competence and knowledge.
Not buying then. Too bad. I was really interested in this since I did not play BS2 or any of the DLC.
The comments from these Gamespot guys about the water are even funnier now. So much competence and knowledge.
Doesn't seem to be the case I'm afraid. Here's a shoddy screengrab from the video showing a very obvious tear.
VG Tech likely uses the same, or a similar, algorithm to Digital Foundry and whilst it's definitely fallible I don't think it's got it wrong this time, especially with the massive drops in framerate the tears accompany.
EDIT: Here's a DF video explaining how they monitor screen tears: https://youtu.be/KVg19CbkXR4?t=311 and if VG Tech is using similar or the same software they can check just as easily to avoid errors.
Screen tearing is one of the few unforgivable things in gaming, for me. It makes every games a fucking miserable experience. How does this happen on a goddamn remaster? If you're greenlighting a remaster not made by Bluepoint or Nixxes, just cancel it. All these lazy cash grabs.
LordOfChaos
Member
Ah PS3, the 20something FPS box.
To be fair the PS1 and N64 were also 20something FPS boxes as well. At least the PS2 had some 60fps games that weren't barren as fuck like F-Zero X.
Nachtfalke
Member
timmyp53
Member
It looks fine to me. To me it looks better. I honestly dont like the blurry froth stream on last gen.
thelastword
Banned
That's the thing, I played it on PS3, but it never felt so bad to me, but stats don't lie. The remaster has some pretty nice improvements, seems there are some light shafts not present in the PS3 version and fire effects look higher rez, better AA and textures are also improvements I've spotted. water seems to be more foamy on the PS3, but to me they flow a bit more naturally and better on the PS4.......
There are some dips into the 30's when things gets hectic, so it seems the improvements are a little more taxing overall. Hope they at least patch ti for more improved framerate when things get unpredictable. This is one thing about Bisohock, you could trigger so many effects in tandem, it's no doubt it's a strain on the GPU. Looking forward to see how the others hold up. IQ looks much improved from last gen consoles, we'll also see how these remasters run on similar PC's to the consoles in a few days.
The Dear Leader
Banned
Yeah this is looking rough, they couldn't convince PC gamers to buy this over the original.
johnnydrama
Banned
Man, last gen was ROUGH.
wowbaggerBR
Member
At least you are not alone =)
There's the Arkham thing too. She would love it, but the remaster seems to look very crappy.
here4payne
Member
Amen. Watching that video (drops during the intense firefight at the end aside), I was happy with what I saw. Mostly stable 60 FPS and improved textures at 1080p. Maybe it's because I have never played these games before I was happy to drop $60 on this and have not been disappointed while playing it.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
In the side by side, the first looks like an artistic change, which is odd.
But the reflections in the next bit look bad.
Some are saying it looks the same as it ever was.
Mononoaware
Banned
John Kowalski
Banned
shiit, ~25 fps
those were the days
those were the days
I apparently had this thread open forever because I didn't see any of the replies
Edited my post now that I see it's not an uncommon feeling.Such a shame.
matrix-cat
Member
How do you screw up the water effects in Bioshock?
Hostile_18
Banned
Wasn't one of the only areas of GTA V PS4/XB1 that was worse off was the foam parts of the water? Was that ever patched back in? Perhaps there's more going on with that kind of effect than we know.