I always find it hard to believe this was the girl from Dumb and Dumber
So you're saying there's a chance?
I always find it hard to believe this was the girl from Dumb and Dumber
This is insane, especially subversus' post. They completely blow away every game out right now, max settings and all.
VG247 is under the impression that several media outlets are in possession of documents related to Durango from CES and are currently working on major leak stories.
bullshit
max payne 3 maxed out looks better or at least as good as Watch Dogs. I also forgot about its fluid animation, 1313 doesn't look that impressive anymore compared to that. Yeah, they added volumetric lights (Metro 2033, BF3, Planetside 2, Crysis 2-3), so what? Crysis 3 looks insane too and it's out soon.
So no, these games look good but they are essentially beefed up PC versions. Show me Fallout 4 with Max Payne 3 animation quality, God of War polycount on every NPC and Ass Creed town population then I'll be impressed. Until then I see no real improvements.
wwwykiShit is about to get real.
Real soon.
see why i like GAF????
that rumoured 1.84TF ps3 vs 1.2TF x720 thing has caught SPAM sites like n4g by storm . even sites like vg24 are taking info from this forum to get hits
bullshit
max payne 3 maxed out looks better or at least as good as Watch Dogs. I also forgot about its fluid animation, 1313 doesn't look that impressive anymore compared to that. Yeah, they added volumetric lights (Metro 2033, BF3, Planetside 2, Crysis 2-3), so what? Crysis 3 looks insane too and it's out soon.
So no, these games look good but they are essentially beefed up PC versions. Show me Fallout 4 with Max Payne 3 animation quality, God of War polycount on every NPC and Ass Creed town population then I'll be impressed. Until then I see no real improvements.
But this info don't come from Gaf.
But this info don't come from Gaf.
Sounds bullshit. Currently working? The fuck does that mean? They aren't the ones breaking the NDA.Shit is about to get real.
Real soon.
No, it doesn't. Really. Watch dogs has much greater fidelity and it's an open world title.
Not to be a stickler for details, but no it isn't. At least not the version we saw. That was clearly a vertical slice of a game that wasn't anywhere near completion. There's no way that slice contained anything resembling an open world. Make no mistake, what we saw was carefully constructed and constrained. We have no idea if that quality will hold up over an entire city.
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Not to be a stickler for details, but no it isn't. At least not the version we saw. That was clearly a vertical slice of a game that wasn't anywhere near completion. There's no way that slice contained anything resembling an open world. Make no mistake, what we saw was carefully constructed and constrained. We have no idea if that quality will hold up over an entire city.
No, it doesn't. Really. Watch dogs has much greater fidelity and it's an open world title.
Well there goes these two rumors, though given the sources, that's not too surprising.
And so the leaks begin. I'm more inclined to believe the VG247 rumour over NowGamer. Something about it just reads as more believable. It could be my subconscious that just wants Xbox 3 to be more powerful than the PS4. It could be the note in the VG247 article stating that Microsoft spent far more on the Xbox 3; and Sony just doesn't have the funds to heavily invest in R&D for the PS4. We all know Sony's financial situation. That statement makes alot of sense. Microsoft's wallet is the largest in the world; whilst Sony's been in the red for years. It would make logical sense that Microsoft would injest vast sums of cash in developing an Xbox successor (just look at how much money they spent on Halo 4). Either rumour could be true. Both rumours could be untrue.
For now I'm going with the VG247 rumour. The NowGamer rumour seems a tad unbelievable. 3 and 4 Teraflops? Isn't that close to super computer processing power? Seems overpowered. I'm not that educated on the subject but I can't see the next generation systems being that powerful. Again, the VG247 report is more believable. The exciting factor we can derive from all of this is that the true leaks should begin soon. I have a feeling we'll be hearing more; much more about the new consoles from Microsoft and Sony in the coming weeks and months. I would have thought that Microsoft would be determined to make their system more powerful than the PS4 given the power advantage that the PS3 had over the 360. We shall see.
have you played it maxed out? Because judging from E3 video polycount in Watch Dogs is on Max Payne level and all other stuff (smooth shadows, IQ, DX11 DOF, high res textures and so on) are present in Max Payne 3. So I see just a cross-gen game, not next-gen game.
Compare vanilla Morrowind and Skyrim. Now that's an upgrade.
I agree about WD being open world though. I wonder how it will look on 360.
I saw the demo at E3 as well. I was in the same demo as aegies, as a matter of fact. WD is the real deal, though. While MaxPayne has a ton of bells and whistles on PC, it none the less is a linear shooter. For WD to do what it does AND be open world is remarkable. And considering that WD is more than likely a launch window title, fidelity in nextgen titles will only get better. Just as it says at the top of GAF, believe.
The demo vid hinted at simultaneous asynchronous cooperative gameplay through the campaign so I fail to see how it'll play anything like GTA or AC.well, yeah, it's impressive quality for an open world. But we really need to drop the shackles of this gen. While Watch Dogs may look cool it will play like another GTA or AssCreed title. They just can't improve on gameplay substantially when they have to deal with 512 megs of RAM.
Well, ThreeSixty perhaps you do want to believe Xbox 3 is more powerful than PS4
But lets look at a few of your points.
'Sony doesn't have the funds to invest' : yes they are in financial difficulties overall, but PlayStation is a successful product and they will invest what they need to. MS doesn't get a free pass on this. Even though the company makes lots of money, their shareholders will want a return on investment and will not simply write a blank cheque
'Look at how much MS spent on halo 4' : look at how much they didn't spend on many other first party exclusives. They pushed in the first few years, then left it to third parties. They don't row money around because they can, they target the spend where it counts.
3-4 TF is likely to be unrealistic, but it isn't supercomputer territory. Top end gaming PCs will be there this year.
'MS would be more determined' : why? By your earlier comment Sony should be more determined to succeed to have a product to bring in some money. And both are huge companies, its a bit simplistic to suggest one isn't determined.
The NowGamer article does seem farfetched though. We are rapidly reaching silly season so hopefully we will have more concrete leaks or info to calm the randomness a little before the proper reveals.
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I think I might use my four different accounts to do some downvoting when it's back.
have you played it maxed out? Because judging from E3 video polycount in Watch Dogs is on Max Payne level and all other stuff (smooth shadows, IQ, DX11 DOF, high res textures and so on) are present in Max Payne 3. So I see just a cross-gen game, not next-gen game.
Compare vanilla Morrowind and Skyrim. Now that's an upgrade.
I agree about WD being open world though. I wonder how it will look on 360.
Strangely this is the most substantive piece in the whole thread.
And so the leaks begin. I'm more inclined to believe the VG247 rumour over NowGamer. Something about it just reads as more believable. It could be my subconscious that just wants Xbox 3 to be more powerful than the PS4. It could be the note in the VG247 article stating that Microsoft spent far more on the Xbox 3; and Sony just doesn't have the funds to heavily invest in R&D for the PS4. We all know Sony's financial situation. That statement makes alot of sense. Microsoft's wallet is the largest in the world; whilst Sony's been in the red for years. It would make logical sense that Microsoft would injest vast sums of cash in developing an Xbox successor (just look at how much money they spent on Halo 4). Either rumour could be true. Both rumours could be untrue.
For now I'm going with the VG247 rumour. The NowGamer rumour seems a tad unbelievable. 3 and 4 Teraflops? Isn't that close to super computer processing power? Seems overpowered. I'm not that educated on the subject but I can't see the next generation systems being that powerful. Again, the VG247 report is more believable. The exciting factor we can derive from all of this is that the true leaks should begin soon. I have a feeling we'll be hearing more; much more about the new consoles from Microsoft and Sony in the coming weeks and months. I would have thought that Microsoft would be determined to make their system more powerful than the PS4 given the power advantage that the PS3 had over the 360. We shall see.
that number was actually calculated by someone from here
most likely that dude thuway
Sony's R&D budget is similar to Microsoft, and Sony has had one of the biggest R&D budgets in the world for last 10 years or so..
Depends how you define similar. Microsoft's R&D budget last year was $9.6bn. Sony's was $6.0bn. Relative to the size of the companies Sony spends more though.
Depends how you define similar. Microsoft's R&D budget last year was $9.6bn. Sony's was $6.0bn. Relative to the size of the companies Sony spends more though.
At one point is must have been, but seeing as they upped the RAM for XB3, other things might have changed too.The X-Box 3 is going to have an 8-core 64-bit processor (assumedly an i7 or similar design) rated at 1.2 Teraflops. The PS4 will feature a 4-core 32-bit processor. XB3 will be using a GPU running support for DirectX 11, while the PS4 will be using an OpenGL 4 GPU. XB3 is specified to use 4 GB RAM, and the PS4 will be shipped with 2GB.
Specifications state that the PS4 will have *NO* hard drive by default, while the XB3 will come with a 500GB Hard Drive with 8GB of Flash memory. The XB3 will also have a 24/7 connectivity system which has not been entirely elaborated on, with coming support for cloud-based connectivity in 2015/2016.
Why do I have this? Well, let's just say that some major developers like EA games are currently very pissed because the PS4 specs are shitty compared to the next XBox and besides limiting their abilities in making more impressive games for the new Playstation, it's also going to shit up cross-platform titles in the same way that the lack of Blu-ray and Standard Hard Drive did with the XBox this generation, and Sony's not listening to their pleas for less shitty hardware. Right now, programmers are pretty much looking at it and comparing the two consoles like one is a high-end gaming PC and the other's a piece of shit eMachines unit from Walmart's $200 special (including monitor).
Depends how you define similar. Microsoft's R&D budget last year was $9.6bn. Sony's was $6.0bn. Relative to the size of the companies Sony spends more though.
At one point is must have been, but seeing as they upped the RAM for XB3, other things might have changed too.
it bugs me that the Sony Revenue and R&D colors are different.
At one point is must have been, but seeing as they upped the RAM for XB3, other things might have changed too.
I noticed that. OCDtastic.
What happened in 2004?
edit: Oh yeah, Itunes took off.