Let me guess there is zero fud going to the Xbox side? Maybe you just don't notice it from your side, but from the middle I can assure you it looks very different.
Oh look pot kettle black......usual clowns
They did indeed.........Sony paid for parity.
Must be some kind of defense mechanism. I'm not a fence sitter by any stretch of the imagination (I'm Xbox biased) and yet I am definitely aware of the craziness spread by Xbox fans in the build up. Hell, I even participated in most of it because it was just so easy to wind up a certain group back then (that Sony silence was killing them). How the Sony fans can be completely oblivious to how they were doing the same is beyond me. Honestly, their FUD was more pervasive just because of the greater number of generators. There is probably 5 fanboy YT channels for every one for Xbox thanks to PS4's performance last gen, same with all the forums etc. With all that considered, the Sony fanboy FUD just had more natural virality to it.
Basically the FUD was just flying everywhere as always, good times.
They are great, got mine from there too for 42 pounds after rewards.Ordered it for Series X. Should come Thursday like Returnal did for PS5 last week from The Game Collection.
Must be some kind of defense mechanism. I'm not a fence sitter by any stretch of the imagination (I'm Xbox biased) and yet I am definitely aware of the craziness spread by Xbox fans in the build up. Hell, I even participated in most of it because it was just so easy to wind up a certain group back then (that Sony silence was killing them). How the Sony fans can be completely oblivious to how they were doing the same is beyond me. Honestly, their FUD was more pervasive just because of the greater number of generators. There is probably 5 fanboy YT channels for every one for Xbox thanks to PS4's performance last gen, same with all the forums etc. With all that considered, the Sony fanboy FUD just had more natural virality to it.
Basically the FUD was just flying everywhere as always, good times.
On topic, looks like the 1S needs that 30fps cap too. Hopefully that is something that will be looked at.
How the Sony fans can be completely oblivious to how they were doing the same is beyond me. Honestly, their FUD was more pervasive just because of the greater number of generators.
At the same clock speed performance should scale almost linearly as far as graphics/rt is concerned.Well but more CUs still should give important benefit in terms of performance for raytracing, that's undoubted.
Is it? Xbox fans were and still are more vocal and delusional. So, Astal, MisterXmedia, Timdog, Bluenugroho and so on....their crusade last to this very day.
Ignoring it was said Xbox was GCN basedNot that much how it was ( and still is) on PS5 side, not even close, especially after official specs announcement. Don't worry, i was paying attention what was said across the net. So, 2 months ago here was still crap how PS5 is RDNA 1 based.
I agree there is was more shit going to the Sony side, but Sony didn't help by staying quiet.Not that much how it was ( and still is) on PS5 side, not even close, especially after official specs announcement. Don't worry, i was paying attention what was said across the net. So, 2 months ago here was still crap how PS5 is RDNA 1 based.
For every one of those there are 4 or 5 equivalents in the Sony camp,
Ignoring it was said Xbox was GCN based
Ignoring it was said Xbox was GCN based
Its funny how fanboys post Khalid memes up the ass if ps5 has a 0.5 percent frame advantage in any game. When Series X has any advantages they want to think with reason and say both versions performed well. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Its funny how fanboys post Khalid memes up the ass if ps5 has a 0.5 percent frame advantage in any game. When Series X has any advantages they want to think with reason and say both versions performed well. Hypocrisy at its finest.
This is gonna be a comical generation. I'm ready.
PS5DE is gimped because of no disc drive....? Then what does that make the Series S? On life support?
The specs in the DE is the exact same as the regular PS5.
Blame MS for not making a discless XSX for $100 less.
Xbox One/X versions tested.
So in other words XSX can never 'win' a face off then?.PS5 having a .23 advantage is a big deal because it obviously has slightly weaker hardware.
XsX having a .23 advantage is not a big deal because the gain is disproportionate to XsX's HW advantage.
Why can't ahem.... people understand this?
Man, all that teraflop talk MS did to further indoctrinate its cult was all BS… like always.
I only remember talks about GCN then there are was some murmurs about Sony heavy investing in RDNA2 R&D, and because of that there are was speculations that architecture will be exclusive to PS5, so Xbox will use GCN or RDNA1. But iirc it was in 2019, long before spec was announced. Contrary to that the most notoriously idiotic xbox fanboys run with "not true RDNA2" slogan to this day.I've only seen T Trainsmove say that recently about the PS5 but I haven't really seen people call the XSX a GCN based system.
I think what you're talking about was the doubt over the CUs due to the lower clock speeds of the XSXs GPU. To be fair both GPUs are a mish mash of GCN, RDNA1 and RDNA2 parts for BC reasons. The RDNA1 parts are there because they are also used in RDNA2.
So in other words XSX can never 'win' a face off then?.
Game is slightly better on PS5 = 'lolz Xbox'
Game is slightly better on XSX = 'Yeah but its more powerful so it should be better, PS5 still wins!'
Man, all that teraflop talk MS did to further indoctrinate its cult was all BS… like always.
That dose of realitySo in other words XSX can never 'win' a face off then?.
Nobody said the ps5 performance was bad . Just saying that 0.5 frame advantage in favor of ps5 causes fanboys to say Series X is a trash system.So why does the PS5 version have bad peformance? The only one that's sketchy is the XSS RT mode.
Could you really say either premium console is terrible with this game?
You have your win enjoy it.
wild guess, x1x runs native 1080pVery interesting, X1X needs 1080p to get a solid 60 whilst XSS does it at 1440p. The resolution mode seems to fall within VRR range mostly on X1X so I'll definitely try that too.
Nobody said the ps5 performance was bad . Just saying that 0.5 frame advantage in favor of ps5 causes fanboys to say Series X is a trash system.
When Series X has any advantages they want to think with reason and say both versions performed well.
Man, all that teraflop talk MS did to further indoctrinate its cult was all BS… like always.
I went back and checked the PS4/Pro versions to compare them, seems about right between the lot. One S/Pro res mode could maybe do with a 30fps option.Very interesting, X1X needs 1080p to get a solid 60 whilst XSS does it at 1440p. The resolution mode seems to fall within VRR range mostly on X1X so I'll definitely try that too.
wild guess, x1x runs native 1080p
xss runs interlaced (checkerboarded) 1440p
amount of pixels rendered would be a bit higher with native 1080p (2.1m pixels) opposed to interlaced 1440p (1280x1440 = 1.8m pixels)
but again, i have no confirmation. but i dont believe ss can push native 1440p 60 fps in this game tbh. it's %67 checkerboard or %33 console magic sauce (if so, props to the machine and microsoft)
Xbox One X in Prioritize Frame Rate Mode renders at a native resolution of 1920x1080.
Xbox Series S in both modes renders at a resolution of 2560x1440 using what appears to be a form of checkerboard rendering.
thx for the confirmationI went back and checked the PS4/Pro versions to compare them, seems about right between the lot. One S/Pro res mode could maybe do with a 30fps option.
One S 41.88fps
PS4 55.25fps
Pro res 40.2fps
One X res 50.36fps
Pro perf 59.95fps
One X perf 60fps
Well, they do have the most powerful console in terms of raw GPU power. They never claimed if it was 2x or 50% more powerful, just that it was more powerful. Most of us knew that an 18% tflops wouldnt really manifest into a massive difference, but you cant blame MS for idiots like Dusk Golem, Timdog, Colbert and ShepshalEd.
I am curious to see if this whole 'we waited for RDNA 2.0' talk is also bullshit or if it does manifest into performance when we start seeing next gen games. I know mesh shaders are basically primitive shaders, and Sony has ML, and their VRS is on the Geometry engine, but I am willing to give MS the benefit of the doubt here. Let's wait and see if Fidelity FX performs better on the xsx and if VRS and mesh shaders really do give them a big performance boost.
I am more pissed at MS launching a 4 tflops console than boasting about having the most powerful console. if they really wanted to compete with Sony, they shouldve released a $399 sku and taken a loss to give their consumers a better deal instead of offering them a lower spec'd machine. Returnal is rendering at 1080p internal on the 10 tflops PS5. This isnt even some late gen game. It's launch window. Whats going to happen when games like that start to show up on the xsx? Are the xss vesions going to have an internal resolution of 540p. Would the upscaling even work on resolutions that low?
Yes you're clearly triggered.I was pretty clear too. Call superior a version which runs 2 FPS better in some spot it's laughable and I was quite calm just find ridiculous such behaviour and I'm referring on both sides eh.
Nobody is saying the XsX is trash. This is a fabrication based on a damaged ego because 1.8TF really didnt mean shit after all.Nobody said the ps5 performance was bad . Just saying that 0.5 frame advantage in favor of ps5 causes fanboys to say Series X is a trash system.
So in other words XSX can never 'win' a face off then?.
Game is slightly better on PS5 = 'lolz Xbox'
Game is slightly better on XSX = 'Yeah but its more powerful so it should be better, PS5 still wins!'
It's basically almost every win for PS5 because Phil Spencer "most powerful console" narrative crap. As long PS5 with almost 2 TF deficit shows graphical settings and performance on par with XSX or better, it's basically a win for PS5. In vast majority of games XSX didn't showed almost 2TF difference in games ( that includes fps advantage, graphicall and resolution advantage - all in 1.
The tools held it back , Series X is just hulking up !Funny enough, i've said to you this a month ago
XSX is DESTINED to win every face-off because it is stronger, i guess. :/
Xbox fans, what the hell do you want from XSX to be in face offs in game analysis? For PS5 i want to be as closest as possible. And it delivers on all fronts as almost 2TF weaker console, slower bandwidth and what not, sometimes on par, sometimes better. The vast majority of gamers didn't expected that, i didn't. For an almost 2 TF stronger console as XSX people EXPECTED there shouldn't be sometimes better, sometimes on par instead, it should be always better... by a landslide. :/ But that is not happening.
This time, next year. Bookmark itThe tools held it back , Series X is just hulking up !
Again it's not alpha relative. It's the compute vantage. Series X can handle a static scene better than ps5 when raytracing is applied because of the higher cu counts. Otherwise ps5 would run equally "bad" on performance mode if the bandwidth is the cause.I wear glasses. One eye is near sighted, other is far haha. With my glasses my vision is better than 20/20 though.
Although not exact they are quite close. For sure close enough to compare. Xsx keeps 1 to 2fps adv entire time with alpha regardless of enemies.
Could be an outlier or it could be a sign early issues have been ironed out. Guess we will have to wait for another game or 2 to see if Xbox bucks the Alpha drop trend.
Superior word in my vocabulary it's wider than better...Christ I'm not even English and I have to explain to you the mean of superior? A person can say a series X has an advantage on FPS (almost insignificant if I can say) but superior version? Can you imagine a pc gamer who call superior a game which runs better for 2 FPS on amd GPU over the Nvidia ? People would laugh behind him. That's what I meant. Just to say. Now maybe the whole game will run marginally better on series X obviously in the case the argument changes completely.Yes you're clearly triggered.
Nothing ridiculous about calling the version that runs a bit better the superior version if that's what it is.
Did I say it was way better? No. I said it was better if it has less frame drops, thus being the superior version.