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Vicarious Visions officially working on Destiny
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Obliterator
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Indeed the budget has to be massive. But truthfully I don't think they are going to have any difficulty at all making that money back.
If it's good I think it's entirely possible Destiny 2 outsells COD next year
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Working on Destiny 2 or the first?
LiveFromKyoto
Member
That was mainly because of issues with the tool chain, not because they were lying liars.
http://kotaku.com/the-messy-true-story-behind-the-making-of-destiny-1737556731
Basically everyone is on the second game right now and has been for a while.
Obliterator
Member
Destiny 1 didn't have near this sized work force
LiveFromKyoto
Member
2. The first one is probably only going to get one, maybe 2 more small updates after this month.
Obliterator
Member
Yep a large number of the staff have been on Destiny 2 since The Taken King
Its gotta be, right.
Early leaks suggested this and so have newer ones from what I've gathered.
everyday math
Banned
Why can't we ever just have one destiny thread without Shitposts? Why?
Man Destiny 2 is gonna be huge.
Man Destiny 2 is gonna be huge.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
oh i 100% agree. No one replays the single player missions in the end game so why have them at all? I would rather they do 20 strikes than 25 single player missions no one is going to play more than once.
In fact, the strikes can be the story campaign missions. i understand they have to balance the story missions so that they can be played solo but they can decrease the number of enemies when you have fewer than 3 people playing the strike.
i am so sick and tired of playing the same five strikes over and over again.
The game should also launch with at least two raids.
paragonpro
Banned
I guess destiny is activisions new development dungeon now that cod is falling off a bit
Most likely just throwing bodies at it and using original dev tools.
Nestled_Grizzly
Member
I recall that they redid their tools. Could be wrong.
Blam
Member
It better be last time Destiny 2 was mentioned they said close to 1000 people were working on it.
Nope you're right they said they revamped their entire workflow because of how shit the D1 workflow was.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
Bungie is starting from the ground up with Destiny 2.
GTR R35_Supra RZ
Banned
When's this supposed to drop, Holiday '17 bundled with Scorpio?
everyday math
Banned
According to Shinobi they have been updated.
I can't see how having such a huge team is a good thing. This screams Ubisoft/Capcom syndrome where there are so many people working on it that it is a bloated pinata of ideas.
I really hope I'm wrong, but I just can't see love being put into a game with so many different groups of over a thousand working on it. It feels like it is destined to just be a soulless game with a ton of polish.
I really hope I'm wrong, but I just can't see love being put into a game with so many different groups of over a thousand working on it. It feels like it is destined to just be a soulless game with a ton of polish.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
No way they don't go with another deal with Sony. Scorpio's install base is going to be microscopic by comparison.
FrontalMonk
Banned
This is what I was thinking. With a workforce that large, I just pray that the game is managed well. We saw what happened with AC3, and that had a workforce of like 600 people across five studios.
Bundled with the PS4 Pro Slim. The Xbox users can't even get console exclusive weapons we were told we'd get after a year of exclusivity.
RichiRamjag
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DeviantBoi
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Destiny 2 is indeed gonna be huge... and Bungie is up to the task.
The problem are the expansions that come after the game... and Bungie proved that they can't handle it alone.
One probability (and I'm guessing here)... is that Bungie is in charge of the Destiny 2 base game and the Year Two expansion (what The Taken King was)... VV and HM are in each in charge of a DLC (what The Dark Below and House of Wolves were) for Year One and Year Two... maybe Year Three if Bungie again has problems with making a sequel.
With this arrangement, they each have one year to create a meaty expansion.
I'm just hoping that we get one more expansion for Destiny 1 before the sequel gets released. I'm gonna lose interest in the game if there's no new raid until Destiny 2 hits.
And if there's no expansion, then maybe an update to the existing raids.
The problem are the expansions that come after the game... and Bungie proved that they can't handle it alone.
One probability (and I'm guessing here)... is that Bungie is in charge of the Destiny 2 base game and the Year Two expansion (what The Taken King was)... VV and HM are in each in charge of a DLC (what The Dark Below and House of Wolves were) for Year One and Year Two... maybe Year Three if Bungie again has problems with making a sequel.
With this arrangement, they each have one year to create a meaty expansion.
I'm just hoping that we get one more expansion for Destiny 1 before the sequel gets released. I'm gonna lose interest in the game if there's no new raid until Destiny 2 hits.
And if there's no expansion, then maybe an update to the existing raids.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
More awesome for 2017. Gonna be a great year.
Well Bungie is still independent and their agreement give them rights for all their new IPs during the work with Activision, no?
EL CUCO
Member
This is my thinking as well. With as many hours as I've put into Destiny, I cant help but have really low expectations with Bungie and it's almost sad.
I'm hoping for an anything goes patch come Spring/Summer. All raids brought back and all original Y1 weapons now Y3, who cares that they are OP.
Flame Lord
Member
Opp, wrong thread.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Most of the strikes are taken from the sp anyway and people do play them all the time for dailies.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
This is a game that's gonna promise an ever lasting stream of content for months on months. Your gonna need all the help you can get. I'm pretty sure Bungie is working on the core design of the sequel while Vicarious Visions and High Noon are supplying the content.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I know a bigger development team shouldn't necessarily be a good thing, but Destiny 2 is going to so good and I'm getting pretty damn hyped for it. I just hope they have a better story, some more linear story missions and then it's just going to knock it out of the park. They've already nailed the gameplay and the world design is generally excellent. Now fill it with compelling things to do and we're all set.
You weren't told you'd get it after a year. Every single mention of exclusive items indicated it would be exclusive for "at least one year"; you just chose to assume it would be exactly a year.
Mind you, I think it's super shitty that Xbox players have a few fewer things (luckily not missing out on anything good). But though I sympathize with your sentiment, your statement was inaccurate.
anothertech
Member
So 500 working on og, 500 working on pro/Scorpio version then? 
I'm sure the game will have content, but it begs to question quality over quantity.
I'm just saying, how these things usually go is huge teams have these huge AAA games that are a mess because there isn't a clear vision simply because of how many peoples hands the game runs through.
I want to be wrong but history isn't kind to showing what could very well happen. One team of 200 is crazy, three teams split into 1,000 is madness.
So does 800 people at Bungie mean just game developers or also including commercial, legal, accounting etc? Because 800 developers is insane.
No overheads? Put it this way, it costs a lot more than $100k to employ someone on a $100k salary.
No overheads? Put it this way, it costs a lot more than $100k to employ someone on a $100k salary.
everyday math
Banned
How do you want them to make tons of content and not have the labor force to do so?
LiveFromKyoto
Member
Yeah, but then AC4 was amazing.
This is an MMO, it needs mountains of content. People still criticize the first game for not having enough ready to go at launch. If they want to make this one more open world than the first game's areas, it's going to need an army of staff.
martino
Member
i love destiny but what is also insane with this game is the poor quantity of content produced and how they reuse environment / asset despite the budget for it.
i hope this will change in the next game.
I think PRO will be 30fps, Scorpio as well most likely, we don't have the final product so it's hard to tell which is one of the reasons I hope we do get a competent PC port.
That, KB/M and customizabilty.
They play them for the daily rewards not because they are dying to replay the missions.