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[iMax]

I thought every xbox could be an sdk unit now? Is that not the case with scorpio?

Yes but that's largely for independent developers. AAA developers and larger indies still need dedicated devkits, ideally, for extra resources and development overhead.

Plus, Scorpio isn't out yet so any developers—indie or otherwise—will need a devkit prior to launch.

 

[LukasTaves]

No screen please.

No, I want my all "notifications go there display"!

 

[arhra]

Wow that is actually very far in the future...we are still on 16xx builds

No we're not. Retail is currently on 1705 (May 2017 update), and Alpha/Beta insider rings are on 1706 builds (which will become the June update) now. The 1706 build listed in that screenshot is dated to the 18th of May (170518). Not sure where the "future" talk is coming from.

I can, and did, try that but doesn't it break down with the PSU and the rear connector on that long lead?

The internal exploded view from the DF reveal is the retail console (doesn't have the extra ports that the devkit has, etc). On the retail console, the power connector will be on the back-right of the console (on the left from a rear view), matching the One S, and has that long lead to bring it over there from the PSU, which is on the opposite side of the system.

On the devkit it looks like it just goes straight to the PSU, since the devkit instead has a debug port where the retail kit will have the power connector, next to the HDMI ports.

 

[Shin]

Man even the dev kit looks cool. I can't wait to see how this thing looks and to see it in action. 6 days...

It really does, 6 days more until we see what the consumer version looks like!

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

No we're not. Retail is currently on 1705 (May 2017 update), and Alpha/Beta insider rings are on 1706 builds (which will become the June update) now. The 1706 build listed in that screenshot is dated to the 18th of May (170518). Not sure where the "future" talk is coming from.



The internal exploded view from the DF reveal is the retail console (doesn't have the extra ports that the devkit has, etc). On the retail console, the power connector will be on the back-right of the console (on the left from a rear view), matching the One S, and has that long lead to bring it over there from the PSU, which is on the opposite side of the system.

On the devkit it looks like it just goes straight to the PSU, since the devkit instead has a debug port where the retail kit will have the power connector, next to the HDMI ports.

Cheers for the info (I take it you're a dev and/or Microsoft?) and I agree about the PSU. Makes sense.

My guess would be because of the extra 12GB of RAM fitted to the other side of the motherboard plus the extra 4CUs on the GPU (producing more heat) Microsoft chose to place the PSU in the dev kit on the other side?

 

[Popsickles]

Microsoft knows how to design shit lately in the hardware front. Looks damn good.

Oh come on it looks shit, like a cable or satellite box, not like a game console.

 

[gamz]

Oh come on it looks shit, like a cable or satellite box, not like a game console.

For a dev kit?

 

[Popsickles]

For a dev kit?

People on here a praising this design plus it looks kinds like the s.

 

[hanspampel]

Oh come on it looks shit, like a cable or satellite box, not like a game console.

 

[gamz]

People on here a praising this design plus it looks kinds like the s.

And? S is amazing.

 

[xxracerxx]

They said in the video it looks "completely different. "

Hmmm!

Fuck, that isn't good news to me. I really dig the S design.

 

[ViciousDS]

I'm still hoping they pull a cooling is still on the top ordeal, I really don't like rear vented units.

 

[arhra]

Cheers for the info (I take it you're a dev and/or Microsoft?) and I agree about the PSU. Makes sense.

Oh god, no. I've got zero inside knowledge, I'm just going on what we've seen from DF, this video, etc.

As far as I can tell from the external shots of the devkit, plus the exploded view from DF/the official page, the internal layout is roughly the same between the devkit and the exploded view (which I'm assuming is the retail console, as it definitely doesn't match the devkit).

There are obviously some minor differences in external ports (but that's just a matter of cable routing and external design), and the cooling system may be somewhat beefed up to deal with the extra RAM and more enabled CUs (although maybe they just designed it with headroom and the devkits just get louder than the retail systems will), but it looks like the way that the components (motherboard/drives/psu/cooling system) are laid out and stacked together is consistent between devkit and retail.

The confusing part when looking at the exploded view is that you have to realize that the system is assembled "upside-down" compared to how Xboxes have traditionally been done, with the motherboard sitting at the top of the casing and everything else underneath it. Which is why the ports are at the top of the devkit above the vents, and why the ports and bluray drive initially appeared to be on the wrong side/in the wrong order when looking at the exploded view.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

People on here a praising this design plus it looks kinds like the s.

Yeeeeeah. The S is arguably the best looking console ever made so not sure the Scorpio dev kit looking like it is a bad thing.

I'm still hoping they pull a cooling is still on the top ordeal, I really don't like rear vented units.

Pretty sure it's already confirmed that there'll be no top vents. This one is stackable. Which is great.

 

[paulogy]

This has to be the most coverage we've ever seen for a dev kit, right?

 

[KageMaru]

This has to be the most coverage we've ever seen for a dev kit, right?

Probably but I think it's great that any company is trying to bring more transparency to how games are made. The more gamers know, the better it is for everyone IMO.

 

[inpHilltr8r]

Only 5 blinkenlights? Sad.

 

[BLAUcopter]

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[AmyS]

Press button for dolphin

The scorpio is full of dolphins.

Is it true can this thing really run the dolphin GameCube emulator

Yeah, it runs Dolphin(s) right on the FPS display.

Project Scorpio is 3DO M2 resurrection, confirmed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZpj9tGOmxg

Dolphins have a special place in history of game console creation!