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Video Capture from consoles

Sega1991 said:
I spent $15 on an EasyCap USB 2.0 and $6 on a Universal S-Video cable (PS3/360/Wii). For the price, it has served me very well.

Example videos that I have recorded with the device:

Bayonetta First Climax (360) Part 1, Part 2
Better Late than Never Video Review: Shenmue
DiRT 2 Demo Replay
Sonic Unleashed: Rooftop Run S-Rank

It takes a little bit of coaxing to get that quality of video out of it, though, but really - for $15, what do you expect? The end result is about as clear as standard definition video can get.


It also features very little input lag, making it easy to play games through it without needing to deal with a splitter.

I've been wanting to get into SD Capture for a while and this looks right up my alley.

Just curious for those with the Haugepauge 1212 and similar hardware. Is Raid setup absolutely vital for HD capture, or is it merely to get the highest capture quality possible? I've got a fast enough computer, just not the best HDD setup.
 
Is Raid setup absolutely vital for HD capture, or is it merely to get the highest capture quality possible?

Since the only real HD card is the Intensity Pro (mainstream HD card, that is), then yes it is vital. Unless you use MJPEG compression which is really not worth it.
 
Choppasmith said:
I've been wanting to get into SD Capture for a while and this looks right up my alley.

Just curious for those with the Haugepauge 1212 and similar hardware. Is Raid setup absolutely vital for HD capture, or is it merely to get the highest capture quality possible? I've got a fast enough computer, just not the best HDD setup.

I have a 7200rpm hardrive and set it to max settings and have no problems. I think it's really dependent of your CPU I have an OC'ed Q6600


here are some videos on youtube in HD that I put up

Tekken 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE_4U9WpAYc
Bayonetta - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxhzvggVWU0
BlazBlue - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjznHUV3HQw
 
Sentry said:
This was never answered, so i'm assuming that's a no way in hell right?

Long ago I remember reading about an external PCI case of some sort that a guy used to connect the Black Magic to a laptop. Might do the trick for the iMac as well, I guess, but I remember the whole setup was pretty pricey.
 
Varth said:
Long ago I remember reading about an external PCI case of some sort that a guy used to connect the Black Magic to a laptop. Might do the trick for the iMac as well, I guess, but I remember the whole setup was pretty pricey.
Yeah, a MAGMA PCI Express expansion. It will only work with Express cards slots though, and it may or may not have enough speed to go. It's very random from laptop to laptop.
Quite expansive, but when it works it's worth every penny.
 
Choppasmith said:
Just curious for those with the Haugepauge 1212 and similar hardware. Is Raid setup absolutely vital for HD capture, or is it merely to get the highest capture quality possible? I've got a fast enough computer, just not the best HDD setup.

It isn't required whatsoever, and has no impact on the quality of recordings you'll get from the Hauppauge. For the Intensity Pro... sure... but not from the HD PVR.

All of my YouTube videos have been recorded with the Hauppauge HD PVR 1228 (can you still get the 1212?) and encoded using Sony Vegas Pro 80.c.
 
I use a USB capture card to record my stuff.

Two main things you'll need:

- Dazzle Platinum (old version by now, the Black version of the Platinum is the latest)


- Scart splitter (So you can have the video/audio signal on the TV as well as going to the Dazzle).


Then all you need are a couple, maybe a few scart cables for connecting stuff together, and that's about it.


Linked some recordings below, should you want to check out the kind of quality you can get.

The best the software that comes with my Dazzle in particular can do (also apparently the only software you can use to record with the platinum) is 30fps, 640x480 and DivX-encoded.

All the stuff below was recorded at the same quality:

No More Heroes [Rank Battle #9]

Super Mario Galaxy [Final boss]

Sonic Unleashed (360) - Savannah Citadel Day


Incidentally, and this isn't really console related per-se, but if you have a PSP-3000 and a composite/s-video composite AV out cable, you can use the same method to record PSP footage with the Dazzle, at the same kind of quality.
 
TimeKillr said:
There are a few advantages to having the HD PVR over a Black Magic Intensity Pro, the most notable being portability. When we do our tournaments, I just bring my HD PVR and my netbook (yes, my NETBOOK) to record the matches. I wouldn't see myself lugging my desktop around to a venue to record matches. :) The funny this is my netbook is completely unable to playback any of the recorded videos but it has enough horsepower to just write data (13.5mbps isn't that much data to write anyway).

Wow I missed this post, as a Netbook owner myself this interests me (Eee PC 1.6 GHz 2 GB of RAM). I don't understand how exactly the connections work. Do you hook up the console THROUGH the PVR like Console -> PVR -> TV?

Also I saw the 1212 on Amazon (is there a newer version, because I can't find it), and all I can see is component video with composite audio. What about older connections like Composite and S-Video (not only for old consoles, but I have some VHS tapes I've been wanting to digitally convert)
 
Choppasmith said:
Wow I missed this post, as a Netbook owner myself this interests me (Eee PC 1.6 GHz 2 GB of RAM). I don't understand how exactly the connections work. Do you hook up the console THROUGH the PVR like Console -> PVR -> TV?

Also I saw the 1212 on Amazon (is there a newer version, because I can't find it), and all I can see is component video with composite audio. What about older connections like Composite and S-Video (not only for old consoles, but I have some VHS tapes I've been wanting to digitally convert)

Okay, so.

The HD PVR is rather easy to work with -

1- You connect the device to your PC via USB
2- You connect your source video to one of its IN ports (component in the back or composite/s-video on the front)
3- You connect your source audio (analog audio on the back or front, it also has a SPDIF Optical port on the back)
4- You connect the device to your TV, if you need to - that's what we do typically because we play SF4 and there's no way to play on my little netbook screen
5- You start up the software on your PC
6- Record

:)

It's rather easy.

So yeah, it's Console -> PVR -> TV.

My netbook is a vanilla EEEPC 1000H, HDD version. The funny thing is I can't watch the video preview in HD in real time (obviously) but it records fine.
 
News Bot said:
Since the only real HD card is the Intensity Pro (mainstream HD card, that is), then yes it is vital. Unless you use MJPEG compression which is really not worth it.

Again, the Intensity Pro does the exact same formats as the Hauppage, just not uncompressed. The Hauppage only encodes to H.264, so yes, there is a little bit of loss (and it's component, not HDMI) but it's still a very capable device.

I don't see why you hate it so much, honestly.
 
TimeKillr said:
Okay, so.

The HD PVR is rather easy to work with -

1- You connect the device to your PC via USB
2- You connect your source video to one of its IN ports (component in the back or composite/s-video on the front)
3- You connect your source audio (analog audio on the back or front, it also has a SPDIF Optical port on the back)
4- You connect the device to your TV, if you need to - that's what we do typically because we play SF4 and there's no way to play on my little netbook screen
5- You start up the software on your PC
6- Record

:)

It's rather easy.

So yeah, it's Console -> PVR -> TV.

My netbook is a vanilla EEEPC 1000H, HDD version. The funny thing is I can't watch the video preview in HD in real time (obviously) but it records fine.

Thanks for the info, definitely DO WANT. Only other thing I'm curious about is the power supply. I know, crazy question, but I'm planning on moving to New Zealand by this time next year, and just wondering if it's Multi-Voltage friendly and there's no info regarding it on the official website.
 
Had to bump the thread since I've got a few questions about the Hauppauge PVR.

Here's my current setup:
360
LCD monitor (dvi/vga)
PC

My question is if there would be any problems from doing something like this:

360 -- component -- pvr -- component * -- dvi adapter* -- lcd monitor.

Since my monitor doesn't have component inputs, would the component-dvi adapter introduce any problems?

edit - will sort this post properly since this is a complete mess to try and work on a monitor that doesn't have component :lol
 
This thread makes me happy to have a PC. Just fire up FRAPS and go. :) But I do have a PS3, but nothing interesting to record.
 
ignoring the above setup in my previous post, this is what I've got in mind:

360 --- component + audio ---- HD PVR ----- [either of the below cables] ---- lcd monitor.
HD PVR ---- usb ---- PC

component to dvi


component to vga


Any other alternatives for people using the Hauppauge with lcd monitors?

Definitely open to other pieces of hardware. Thanks!
 
I have a hauppauge colossus capture card.

is it possible to override the hdcp that's stopping me from capturing gameplay via hdmi?
 
It takes a little bit of coaxing to get that quality of video out of it, though, but really - for $15, what do you expect? The end result is about as clear as standard definition video can get.

I'm reading through your GiantBomb post, because Interlacing is something that haunts me to this day (I do some TV captures for personal storage), and this line jumped at me:

It's also probably worth mentioning that High-Definition footage doesn't have any of this stuff (but high-def capture devices are $100-$250).

High Definition footage most certainly is interlaced. Sure, it might not be on current gen consoles (always outputting at 720p), but HD content is interlaced, in instances. 1080i is much more common than 1080p. Not to mention that all cable, terrestrial or satellite TV transmission (not counting some weird standards that only some European countries use) is, at best, 1080i.

I think the fake 1080 support that the PS3 has on some games is also Interlaced, but I could be wrong.


Interlacing is a "shitty but functional" solution to the problem that will haunt mankind for all eternity: bandwidth.

Analog TV is 480i/30 fps (25 if you're weird) interlaced because there isn't enough bandwidth to transmit 60fps video. 1080i/30fps is a TV standard because there wasn't enough bandwidth to transmit 1080p/60fps (or even 30 fps, for that matter).


Edit: jesus fuck that's a post from 2009. Sorry about that.

To the question posted by knee: There are "de-HDCP boxes", but they're usually expensive, going by what Vinny says on the giantbomb podcast. I don't think the Giantbomb staff ever got one (thus why most of their encoding is made from analog sources).
 
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