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[NullPointer]

Ironic, but not in the way you meant it.

 

[Oriel]

I always find it amusing to hear right wing Americans complain so much about "soccer" every four years when the biggest sporting tournament in the world kicks into gear, the World Cup.

Later on this year should be great fun.

 

[jett]

It wasn't too bad actually.

 

[foxuzamaki]

This one made me laugh the most

 

[HerbertFish]

I always find it amusing to hear right wing Americans complain so much about "soccer" every four years when the biggest sporting tournament in the world kicks into gear, the World Cup.

Later on this year should be great fun.

Since when do right wingers complain about Soccer. I know this is OT so I thought I've seen it all when it comes to blaming the right wingers but I have to say this is a new one.

 

[xbhaskarx]

Since when do right wingers complain about Soccer. I know this is OT so I thought I've seen it all when it comes to blaming the right wingers but I have to say this is a new one.

Well, last World Cup, Glenn Beck did go on some Fox News rant about how soccer was an unamerican socialist conspiracy being pushed on the US population by the UN and Obama or some such nonsense...

 

[Htown]

first actually exciting soccer play I've ever seen

well done

 

[tbm24]

This thread is odd. I've seen way too many posts saying more or less the same thing, why would Americans know about football/other name for it I refuse to say. As a sport it is very much known/popular in youth sports leagues. Not knowing about European leagues/teams/players is irrelevant regarding the question if someone knows about football. I don't particularly care for the NBA and never watch/follow it but you will never be able to say I don't know anything about Basketball.

Odd responses indeed.

 

[Oriel]

Since when do right wingers complain about Soccer. I know this is OT so I thought I've seen it all when it comes to blaming the right wingers but I have to say this is a new one.

Conservapedia, Rush Limbaugh and WorldNutDaily moaned incessantly about the World Cup back in 2010.

 

[tbm24]

Conservapedia, Rush Limbaugh and WorldNutDaily moaned incessantly about the World Cup back in 2010.

They are gonna moan even harder when FIFA hands the 2022 World Cup to USA.

 

[rbanke]

I've noticed a large uptick in Soccer broadcasts. My (American) Football loving wife has taken too it recently but I still don't know much more about it than I learned from elementary school when I last played it.

It's called football you handegg loving plebs.

Soccer is a word coined by the British.

 

[Oriel]

They are gonna moan even harder when FIFA hands the 2022 World Cup to USA.

Qatar are hosting in 2022. Unless you mean FIFA handing the Jules Rimet trophy to the US for winning, in which case I say, LOL.

 

[Nesotenso]

first actually exciting soccer play I've ever seen

well done

clearly you don't much about the game.

 

[LeleSocho]

b-but the score is so low how can i like it?

Typical 'Murrica quantity over quality.

 

[Squirrel Killer]

This thread is odd. I've seen way too many posts saying more or less the same thing, why would Americans know about football/other name for it I refuse to say.

What name do you mean? If "soccer" is the name you mean, why would you refuse to call it that? Are you anti-British?

Odd responses indeed.

Indeed.

 

[theprodigy]

I like the dude who said that the Netherlands won the last world cup.

could be worse, dude could have said Brazil or something

can you quantify it to support your argument?
turnovers are devastating in football



you realize that this also happen in football?

are you seriously trying to argue turnovers are just as critical in soccer as in football?

I don't think I've ever heard anyone argue that American football is superior because of field goals.

Sure, it's different. But there are many 1-0 soccer matches I'd rather watch than the first LSU-Bama game from 2011.

FWIW, I like both sports. But there are boring as hell football games, and boring as hell soccer matches. And there are amazingly exciting examples of both as well.

hey man, we can just pretend SEC football doesn't exist

In terms of fluidity:

Soccer is Zelda
American Football is Final Fantasy Tactics

I like em both!

so it's choppy as all hell, Skyward Sword style?
seems legit

I always find it amusing to hear right wing Americans complain so much about "soccer" every four years when the biggest sporting tournament in the world kicks into gear, the World Cup.

Later on this year should be great fun.

....?

 

[FreeMufasa]

first actually exciting soccer play I've ever seen

well done

Welcome to Arsenal.

That's who most black ppl support

 

[BGBW]

Have we decided what the purpose of this thread is yet?

People who don't follow a sport don't really care about knowing much about said sport.

 

[Dark Rider]

are you seriously trying to argue turnovers are just as critical in soccer as in football?

So then answer the question yourself
can you quantify it so we can compare it correctly?
I'm sorry but your subjective opinion of what is critical and what is not doesn't constitute a fact. I never argued how critical it is to American football but if you will argue that it is more critical then please quantify it to establish a standard that we can then use to draw a comparison. You can't just compare two different games if you can't define and quantify the parameters of comparison.

 

[Hari Seldon]

I like US Women's Olympic soccer because of the few real good looking chicks, you learn who they are, and have an automatic rooting interest. As an American watching some random Euro league game I have no idea who anyone is and I have no rooting interest. I think that is the fundamental problem, without a rooting interest it is hard to get into a sport like soccer that has long periods of limited excitement unless you are an expert at the sport and can follow the exact details of what is going on. Plus we have so many options in the US for team sports at an elite level. Football, Baseball, Basketball, and Hockey all with the best players in the world.

 

[Oriel]

What name do you mean? If "soccer" is the name you mean, why would you refuse to call it that? Are you anti-British?


Indeed.

What do you mean by "damn Irish"?

 

[KingGondo]

I like US Women's Olympic soccer because of the few real good looking chicks, you learn who they are, and have an automatic rooting interest. As an American watching some random Euro league game I have no idea who anyone is and I have no rooting interest. I think that is the fundamental problem, without a rooting interest it is hard to get into a sport like soccer that has long periods of limited excitement unless you are an expert at the sport and can follow the exact details of what is going on. Plus we have so many options in the US for team sports at an elite level. Football, Baseball, Basketball, and Hockey all with the best players in the world.

Watch the UEFA Champions League, and root for the team you like best.

That's the best way to become a fan IMO. Then you can start following that team's domestic schedule (EPL teams are the easiest to follow in the US). It's a lot of fun.

 

[Oriel]

could be worse, dude could have said Brazil or something



are you seriously trying to argue turnovers are just as critical in soccer as in football?



hey man, we can just pretend SEC football doesn't exist



so it's choppy as all hell, Skyward Sword style?
seems legit


....?

Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck went on a rant about "soccer" during the last World Cup. Every four years the nuttier elements of US society come out of the woodwork to decry the world's fixation with football, when of course they should be focusing on God's only chosen sports Baseball and Armoured "Football".

 

[Snarfington]

As a Brit, I know basically nothing about soccer aside from team names and shit and didn't know the answer to loads of the questions, but I follow NFL religiously.

I'm pretty sure I'm an embarrassment to my country.

 

[Linius]

As a Brit, I know basically nothing about soccer aside from team names and shit and didn't know the answer to loads of the questions, but I follow NFL religiously.

I'm pretty sure I'm an embarrassment to my country.

As a Brit you should know better than to call it soccer. That's the reason you're an embarrassment to your country, not because you don't like the sport

 

[tbm24]

Qatar are hosting in 2022. Unless you mean FIFA handing the Jules Rimet trophy to the US for winning, in which case I say, LOL.

Qatar keeping the 2022 World Cup is about as likely as FIFA getting away with moving the World Cup to the winter season. Not happening.

 

[Linius]

Qatar keeping the 2022 World Cup is about as likely as FIFA getting away with moving the World Cup to the winter season. Not happening.

There's too much at stake for the FIFA to just take the organisation away from Qatar. Don't bet on it.

 

[tbm24]

There's too much at stake for the FIFA to just take the organisation away from Qatar. Don't bet on it.

FIFA has more to lose pissing off every league in Western Europe. Let alone having Fox taking them to court.

 

[Newlove]

Its like someone coming up to me and asking questions about American Football. I don't know anything lol.

 

[GlamFM]

I think they are actually doing quite good.

Also, Ibra:

 

[PsychBat!]

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oh great, this is actually better now that a kid is here!

 

[Schlep]

Even the bench highlights are better than what American sports produce. Come at me.

No sport produces better bench highlights than MLB.

This thread made me realize that I will be so totally embarrassed if someone stops me on the street and asks me to answer Teen Mom questions. I won't know anything!

 

[lednerg]

I don't know shit about Soccer and I don't care who knows that about me. Not much of a sports guy in general.

So how does the timer work in Soccer? It seems like the officials end the game after they feel they've seen enough.

 

[Duane Cunningham]

I don't know shit about Soccer and I don't care who knows that about me. Not much of a sports guy in general.

So how does the timer work in Soccer? It seems like the officials end the game after they feel they've seen enough.

There are two halves, each 45 minutes. The clock doesn't stop for anything. No time outs, no commercials, nothing. BUT, the refs keep track of any time wasted with injuries, etc and at the end of each half they tack whatever it was on. This is called "stoppage time" and it may be a minute, or it may be like, nine minutes. The clock doesn't show this stoppage time counting down or anything, everyone has to kind of keep track in their brain. And if there's any additional stoppage during that stoppage time, the ref will just tack it on without announcing it. So during stoppage time, there's this foreboding sense that the other shoe is gonna drop any second, but you can't be sure quite when.

 

[MrChocolate]

I don't know shit about Soccer and I don't care who knows that about me. Not much of a sports guy in general.

So how does the timer work in Soccer? It seems like the officials end the game after they feel they've seen enough.

If the other team is playing against Real Madrid, the referee ends the game if:

Real Madrid is winning?
- It will give 3 extra minutes. Plus, if there was someone heavily injured it will give a couple of extra minutes.

Real Madrid is tied? It depends.

- Real Madrid is going to be eliminated from a tournament if the match ends with this score?
---- The referee will give as many extra minutes as Real Madrid needs to win.

- If the previous condition does not apply.
---- It will give 3 extra minutes. Plus, if there was someone heavily injured it will give a couple of extra minutes.

Real Madrid is losing?
- The referee will give as many extra minutes as Real Madrid needs to win.

 

[Arjen]

If the other team is playing against Real Madrid, the referee ends the game if:

Real Madrid is winning?
- It will give 3 extra minutes. Plus, if there was someone heavily injured it will give a couple of extra minutes.

Real Madrid is tied? It depends.

- Real Madrid is going to be eliminated from a tournament if the match ends with this score?
---- The referee will give as many extra minutes as Real Madrid needs to win.

- If the previous condition does not apply.
---- It will give 3 extra minutes. Plus, if there was someone heavily injured it will give a couple of extra minutes.

Real Madrid is losing?
- The referee will give as many extra minutes as Real Madrid needs to win.

Lol

 

[lednerg]

There are two halves, each 45 minutes. The clock doesn't stop for anything. No time outs, no commercials, nothing. BUT, the refs keep track of any time wasted with injuries, etc and at the end of each half they tack whatever it was on. This is called "stoppage time" and it may be a minute, or it may be like, nine minutes. The clock doesn't show this stoppage time counting down or anything, everyone has to kind of keep track in their brain. And if there's any additional stoppage during that stoppage time, the ref will just tack it on without announcing it. So during stoppage time, there's this foreboding sense that the other shoe is gonna drop any second, but you can't be sure quite when.

If Soccer is ever going to get popular in the US, then they're going to have to address this. We don't know how to think about things without a constant, onscreen representation of it.

 

[Randdalf]

If Soccer is ever going to get popular in the US, then they're going to have to address this. We don't know how to think about things without a constant, onscreen representation of it.

Well it does say there are expected to be a number of minutes of added time, it's just uncertain how long that will be and it adds to the excitement, particularly at the end of closely contested matches.

 

[HerbertFish]

Has there ever been a study into just how awful refs are at calculating stoppage time? Every soccer game I ever watch there's always like minimum 5 minutes of stoppages it feelsn often closer to ten but you never see minutes that high.

 

[FloatingDivider]

America could never respect this.

I've seen basketball players take dives as often as any soccer player. Also stoppage time in soccer is retarded, I don't know what clock they base those calculations on but it's got the longest minutes I've ever seen.

 

[zomaha]

i love talkin' some footie whenever i meet someone that watches it too. usually i just have my crew to talk to

 

[Duane Cunningham]

If Soccer is ever going to get popular in the US, then they're going to have to address this. We don't know how to think about things without a constant, onscreen representation of it.

Well, we HAVE already done quite a bit to Americanize it:

-the MLS has playoffs. That sounds like it shouldn't be a big deal, but I shit you not, the Premiere League doesn't have them. At all. Like, at the end of the season, whoever has the best record wins, that's it. For the MLS, we've added playoffs like American sports. The final game is the MLS Cup, but for those purists who think we should be more Britty about it, there's also a trophy for the best season record team, called the Supporter's Shield.

-Also, we play MLS Soccer in the summer, unlike pretty much everywhere else where it's in the winter. Because winter was already taken over here when it comes to football.

-Also, the Brits (and most other countries) have what's called a "Promotion/Relegation system" built into their league. What this means is out of the 20 Premiere League teams, the bottom three get kicked out at the end of the year and become the soccer equivalent of AAA teams. The top three teams in that league get promoted and become Premiere League teams. And the bottom three get traded with the next league below that. And so on. And no kidding, there are like, thirty levels of this going all the way down. To the point where the very bottom of the system are work buddies getting together to play in a rec league at the park. Technically, that team could be SO good, that they could climb all the way up and be in the Premiere League! Although A, it'll never happen and B, it would take like thirty seasons of getting promoted all the way up, so it wouldn't really be the same players any more. But still, it's kind of cool.

Anyway, we Amercianized that aspect by saying "What the fuck?? No."

 

[Meier]

I actually think some of them did pretty well. To be honest, I bet if you asked random people on a college campus a lot of NFL or NBA questions, they wouldn't be able to answer many of them as well. I'm sure all the Arsenal fans loved the general confusion regarding Gareth Bale.

 

[Iztli]

first actually exciting soccer play I've ever seen

well done

The classic one

Love those

 

[Meier]

I understand this and aware of it. I just wonder why would they choose not to go with best football out there nowadays in Spain or Germany?
Putting the EPL is nice and it is a good league but the USA is new comers so I thought looking at the best out there (Spain and Germany) would be ideal to start viewing because you want to show the sport in it's best form to give sense of how the game in its glory (these days anyways) is played like so the audience would have a better picture of the sport. I' am DEFINITELY not saying the EPL is bad in fact it is good but my point was why not go for the best then expand to others? after the Spain and Germany football I would but England and Italy football so in the end you are still in the top 4 I guess.

In general, there are more great players in the Premier League than any other league due to the wealth of the clubs. The talent is spread across more teams which is why there are at least 6-7 teams who are at least fighting hard for the top 4 as opposed to maybe 3 or 4 teams at most. But the primary reason is that it's a lot easier for an American to relate to a club from England due to the language.

 

[Error]

America could never respect this.

Happens daily in the NBA, and people still watch it.

 

[Dark Rider]

If the other team is playing against Real Madrid, the referee ends the game if:

Real Madrid is winning?
- It will give 3 extra minutes. Plus, if there was someone heavily injured it will give a couple of extra minutes.

Real Madrid is tied? It depends.

- Real Madrid is going to be eliminated from a tournament if the match ends with this score?
---- The referee will give as many extra minutes as Real Madrid needs to win.

- If the previous condition does not apply.
---- It will give 3 extra minutes. Plus, if there was someone heavily injured it will give a couple of extra minutes.

Real Madrid is losing?
- The referee will give as many extra minutes as Real Madrid needs to win.

Scientist confirm that Planet Salt EXIST



Hala Madrid

Well, we HAVE already done quite a bit to Americanize it:

-the MLS has playoffs. That sounds like it shouldn't be a big deal, but I shit you not, the Premiere League doesn't have them. At all. Like, at the end of the season, whoever has the best record wins, that's it. For the MLS, we've added playoffs like American sports. The final game is the MLS Cup, but for those purists who think we should be more Britty about it, there's also a trophy for the best season record team, called the Supporter's Shield.

-Also, we play MLS Soccer in the summer, unlike pretty much everywhere else where it's in the winter. Because winter was already taken over here when it comes to football.

-Also, the Brits (and most other countries) have what's called a "Promotion/Relegation system" built into their league. What this means is out of the 20 Premiere League teams, the bottom three get kicked out at the end of the year and become the soccer equivalent of AAA teams. The top three teams in that league get promoted and become Premiere League teams. And the bottom three get traded with the next league below that. And so on. And no kidding, there are like, thirty levels of this going all the way down. To the point where the very bottom of the system are work buddies getting together to play in a rec league at the park. Technically, that team could be SO good, that they could climb all the way up and be in the Premiere League! Although A, it'll never happen and B, it would take like thirty seasons of getting promoted all the way up, so it wouldn't really be the same players any more. But still, it's kind of cool.

Anyway, we Amercianized that aspect by saying "What the fuck?? No."

But you know that you need to fix it back right? ;p

EDIT:

In general, there are more great players in the Premier League than any other league due to the wealth of the clubs. The talent is spread across more teams which is why there are at least 6-7 teams who are at least fighting hard for the top 4 as opposed to maybe 3 or 4 teams at most.

You weren't there when I and Willbz discussed this matter?
I don't think the EPL has more talent but I agree as a league they have more money to buy players
BUT I still believe the talent and the quality of football generated on the field in the Spanish and German leagues nowadays is better. I understand the English media spew these statement basically every minute of every day of the year but it will not make it true. My opinion is based on the quality of football generated by the ENTIRE league from the top team all the way down to the bottom one. A lot of people tend to ignore the quality generated in the bottom half of the table but in general the average quality of football played in Spain and Germany leagues nowadays is higher than that of what the EPL is presenting. AGAIN I'm certainly NOT saying the EPL is bad at all, in fact it is one of the top 4 but just not as good as the Spanish and German leagues at the moment.
And again about the "6-7 teams" has a shot at the EPL please refer to my discussion with Willbz about it where I debunk it.

But the primary reason is that it's a lot easier for an American to relate to a club from England due to the language.

Yes I figured that but was looking for more, I hoped it was deeper than just the common language

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

It's called football you handegg loving plebs.

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The rest of the world calls it football. It makes perfect logical sense as well.

 

[HerbertFish]

http://deadspin.com/bad-british-commentary-makes-college-football-delightfu-1502685085


bad British commentator calls the college football championship....errr NFL semi final?

 

[Verano]

Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck went on a rant about "soccer" during the last World Cup. Every four years the nuttier elements of US society come out of the woodwork to decry the world's fixation with football, when of course they should be focusing on God's only chosen sports Baseball and Armoured "Football".

Never heard about this until now. Wow...don't know how they come up with this shit. And some nads here think I'm a troll.