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Video of a group of black people beating a white person for voting Trump is terrible
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Psychoward
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Yes it does.
Equating it to a white sheet is a bit much but at the very least they're implicit in installing/reinforcing a white supremacist society.
Chiggs
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So basically nothing new? Just that same shrill, shrieking unchecked garbage we're all accustomed to?
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
People want to think otherwise, so they will think otherwise. We probably won't ever have the full story.
AlfonzoPalutena
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This video has likely reinforced the beliefs of many people, what a shame.
True, we don't have the full story. While the video paints a damning picture, things are often not what they seem to be initially
Hopefully we can find something that points one way or the other.
True, we don't have the full story. While the video paints a damning picture, things are often not what they seem to be initially
Hopefully we can find something that points one way or the other.
The Albatross
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Jesus fuck, I just watched this video and then I can't believe the responses in this thread.
"Morons on both sides," "I can see how they're upset because they're provoked."
That's fucking ridiculous. WHat is that one guy getting his ass kicked being a moron...? He's getting beaten up by multiple people. And how do we know if he voted for Trump or not...? And even if he did, which is nobody else's business but his own, that's not how you respond.
Christ........ Beyond that, this video will be posted all over websites that look for shit like this, and they'll say, "Watch these young black people beat someone up for voting for Trump, this is what we're fighting against."
People equivocating between voting and assault and battery are disgusting idiots. Where does it end? Should a woman who voted for Trump deserve to be raped in the streets? Or beyond that, should a woman who may or may not have voted for Trump deserve to be raped in the streets? "Morons on both sides."
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Editing my post because the person who originally commented "Morons on both sides," wasn't suggesting that the person getting beaten up in the video was a moron.
"Morons on both sides," "I can see how they're upset because they're provoked."
That's fucking ridiculous. WHat is that one guy getting his ass kicked being a moron...? He's getting beaten up by multiple people. And how do we know if he voted for Trump or not...? And even if he did, which is nobody else's business but his own, that's not how you respond.
Christ........ Beyond that, this video will be posted all over websites that look for shit like this, and they'll say, "Watch these young black people beat someone up for voting for Trump, this is what we're fighting against."
People equivocating between voting and assault and battery are disgusting idiots. Where does it end? Should a woman who voted for Trump deserve to be raped in the streets? Or beyond that, should a woman who may or may not have voted for Trump deserve to be raped in the streets? "Morons on both sides."
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Editing my post because the person who originally commented "Morons on both sides," wasn't suggesting that the person getting beaten up in the video was a moron.
He voted trump, in some eyes he is the devil.
UncleSporky
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Dude he is trolling you using the rhetoric that Trump Supporters use to defend acts of violence against minorities.
Do you have any hard facts that everyone who voted for Trump is a racist? Including the minorities who voted for him?
Psychoward
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Yes, my hard fact is that they voted for a racist who is intent on reinforcing a white supremacist society.
According to PoliGAF he's probably an evil racist that burns crosses in his front yard.
Albino_Yeti
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For some reason, many Gaffers refuse to believe that not everyone who voted for trump hates black people, it's no use mate
Psychoward
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Stop equating all of poligaf to one gimmick poster.
ThatStupidLion
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this is only going to make things worse and bring out rage and aggression in people who don't have it
The echo chamber is quite loud, can't tell who is who if it wasn't for avatars.
SENPAIatLARGE
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What is even the point of moderators if this is ok? Are we suddenly ok with overt nracism and low key klansmen in threads now?
Psychoward
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Damn, y'all are out in full force today huh.
You can be racist without being intentionally malicious. Look up the definition of racism.
It isn't just white people calling black people niggers and hanging them from trees.
When you say "reinforcing", do you mean to say that white supremacy is the norm at this moment? Or do you mean that Donald Trump will install white supremacy in the same way that we had it just a few decades ago?
Psychoward
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It is absolutely 100% the norm at this point but obviously a Trump presidency will make it worse. Most likely not pre civil rights act worse but definitely worse. Listen to his response on police reform.
benjipwns
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Just that we aren't getting the full story here and there may be good reasons for their self-defense:
Mammoth Jones
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What a bunch of vicious fucks. They should be jailed for a long time. Shit like this is not acceptable. Hate Trump voters all you want you do NOT get to physically assault them.
White supremacy has always been the norm, don't get it twisted.
White supremacy has always been the norm, don't get it twisted.
Because he didn't vote for Hillary, which suddenly absolutely means you're every bad thing ever, for the first time in electoral history. That you should wear a scarlet letter. The only way to be free of this label is to have voted Hillary, which will keep you safe despite her losing the election. This isn't pseudo-fascist thought at all, nope. "I won't tolerate you because I think the person you voted for won't tolerate me." Yeah, that's gonna fix things.
depths20XX
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Some of the responses in this thread are quite alarming. The video is terrible and there is no excuse to beat someone like that for voting for someone you don't like.
The man is a moron for getting beat up?
diablos991
Can’t stump the diablos
"Self-defense"
GTFO dude.
Nothing about grouping up to beat a single old man and steal his shit while filming it says self defense.
How can you possibly claim that the white guy is a moron? Wtf...
Business
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Do you at least realize your whole argument in this thread is based on 'what if' scenarios that exist only in your imagination and are not supported by facts?
The Albatross
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Yeah, and not only that, the only reason we believe this guy voted for Trump is because a person who is cheering on 2 or 3 people beating up this guy in the streets and kicking him in his face is cheering "He voted for Trump!!"
Like... that's your smoking gun for people... Someone cheering on someone getting beaten up in the streets and kicked in the face.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Yall got all this fire and passion for people who are beating gays and assaulting women and POC who are Trump supporters tho? Or must it be caught on camera for yall to care?
I think a lot of people understand that there are a Trump voters who don't hate black folks.
It's just that they went ahead and voted for a dude who hates black folks.
Mammoth Jones
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It's insinuating subtly that his vote for Trump (which isn't even confirmed) somehow puts them on equal moral ground in this encounter.
I completely reject that bullshit. Fuck that.
So you're calling half the population racist without being intentionally malicious because they voted for the other candidate? You saw one man beaten, many million to go, amirite? Damn racists, tar and feather them I say!
-Minsc-
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I do not know the whole story so I can't throw away the possibility that the person beat down could have went and physically picked a fight with them. There's even the possibility that the whole thing was staged to make a specific group look bad. In order to be fair I am keeping those options open.
Looking at the surface it's impossible to deny the video shows a group of people beating up an individual, while being cheered on by onlookers, over what appears to have been a person who supported a candidate which they did not want elected president. This is not the kind of actions anyone needs to take.
Looking at the surface it's impossible to deny the video shows a group of people beating up an individual, while being cheered on by onlookers, over what appears to have been a person who supported a candidate which they did not want elected president. This is not the kind of actions anyone needs to take.
I don't doubt that Trump will be a disaster for race relations. My concern is that, while Hillary has evolved on the issue since the 90's, if it is the case that under an Obama administration, the status of race relations is white supremacy ... well I'm not entirely sure what the alternative was. The only party running a person of color who made a genuine outreach to black people was the green party and they got 1% of the vote.
Supporting a racist is being racist. No matter how much you can pressure the fact that you're not racist.
If you voted Trump, you encouraged racism in America.
I don't think blaming the voters is a worthwhile strategy.
AyaisMUsikWhore
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It's like all this talk about people who voted for him aren't all racist yet a single policy they agree with is never stated...
And if we want to continue, I just find it funny for the sake of millions of people...some of these people couldn't last 4 more years of a mediocre president but could totally sacrifice that for someone who ignited a bigger culture divide costing those millions of people who was riding for that better future for a better candidate next year. Lots of us wouldn't be mad if these people made the ultimate sacrifice for us but no...here we are..they practically rewarded it. I would have done any other candidate but Donald Trump and yall voted for that...so what am I supposed to think. And to think that it's not just him but the huge defeat we take in the SC and his cabinet which are all just awful people but sure....this was just one guy...it's BS
The Albatross
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The fuck are you talking about? I'm not a Trump supporter. I cared very deeply about defeating Trump in this election precisely because of beating gays, assaulting women, and Trump's racism and sexism (and for a thousand other political issues that I disagreed with him on). I also care about issues of police brutality against people of color and casual and overt racism against people of color, and the 2nd class status of gays and women.
I also don't have any passion for the guy in the video. I feel casual sympathy for him getting beaten up by multiple people as other people stand on and cheer. But beyond that casual sympathy, my only passion is against ignorant idiots in this thread who say things like "morons on both sides..." while one person is on the ground getting kicked in the face. And, really, I'm not even passionate about those posts, I'm flabberghasted that anybody could watch the video and think that what's happening is okay, tolerable, understandable, appropriate, or any other synonym for acceptable.
Not to mention videos like this are going to completely derail any attempts at moving forward.
You're way, way off base about me.
Who's giving this a pass? These guys should be and will be jailed very soon.
No it on white people, they control the election. It funny that minorities always need record number of people to vote .
Psychoward
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The other candidate is a racist intent on reinforcing white supremacy. Yes I absolutely am.
Step off with this normalizing bullshit.
Is this a trick question?So African Americans and the minorities who voted for him are racist...to themselves?
Psychoward
Banned
How are you still missing the fundamental definition of racism?So African Americans and the minorities who voted for him are racist...to themselves?
Step off with this generalizing bullshit. You're no better than the far right calling every Mexican an illegal or a Muslim a terrorist.
Thaedolus
Gold Member
Record numbers? Obama numbers would have made this total lock. Again, Trump won with fewer votes than Romney had when he lost. You don't need record numbers to beat that you just need to show the fuck up and they didn't. You have to own that.
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