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Videocardz - GeForce GTX 980 Ti [rumored] to feature 6GB memory

60fps is not hard to hit especially at 1080p (not sure what your res is ).

pls explain

First game I played with them was shadow of modor Max at 1080p, that game was choppy especially when I rotate the camera quick, Assetto Corsa 1080p Max, the game will drop fps like crazy when there's many cars and smoke, Arma 3 is probably impossible with any gpu because that games just runs terrible even on medium. Witcher 2 has alot of random stutters with ubersampling off. And now Im downloading GTAV and Im doubting 60fps 1080p with max.
 
Never set baselines or fixed targets. This isn't console gaming. Better to set your own personal baselines to target and accept that everyone else will do their own.

This is PC gaming, so flexibility and range is the greatest strength here

Im suggesting it as what i think the term "max settings" should entail if a game supports hardware msaa
 
First game I played with them was shadow of modor Max at 1080p, that game was choppy especially when I rotate the camera quick, Assetto Corsa 1080p Max, the game will drop fps like crazy when there's many cars and smoke, Arma 3 is probably impossible with any gpu because that games just runs terrible even on medium. Witcher 2 has alot of random stutters with ubersampling off. And now Im downloading GTAV and Im doubting 60fps 1080p with max.

I played Shadow of Modor just fine with close to max settings IIRC and had no problems maintaining 60fps on my single 970. Did you enable 200% resolution scaling or something?

A3 runs fine with high graphical settings, as long as you stay away from multiplayer since it CPU bound as fuck there.

I did not experience any stuttering in W2 when I played it a few months ago.

I have a 144Hz monitor and run most of my games at around 100 fps if possible by just turning down a few things one step below max if it's really demanding and the overall image will not be affected that much in most cases.

It is not hard to get 60fps with a 970, just stop thinking you have to max absolutely everything.

PC gamers want devs to push the graphics, but then when they do people complain about shitty ports because max setting runs bad. *cough*Dying Light*cough*
 
Might be my next card, if true. SLI 780s are lovely but the 3GB buffer at 1440p is going to turn out a disaster for me, eventually. 4GB doesn't seem like a worthwhile upgrade, despite the 980 being 20% faster or so than a single 780.

But a 6GB card... I'll never have to worry about being memory limited. Well, not until the card is irrelevant (to me) from a horsepower POV, anyway.
This. I have a stock 780 and although it fulfills my needs at 1440p60 right now, the 3GB is limiting and 4GB isn't enough of an upgrade. The 980Ti will fulfill my desire to increase my power and double my VRAM.
 
First game I played with them was shadow of modor Max at 1080p, that game was choppy especially when I rotate the camera quick, Assetto Corsa 1080p Max, the game will drop fps like crazy when there's many cars and smoke, Arma 3 is probably impossible with any gpu because that games just runs terrible even on medium. Witcher 2 has alot of random stutters with ubersampling off. And now Im downloading GTAV and Im doubting 60fps 1080p with max.

How much RAM do you have? I found that upgrading from 8 GB 1600 MHz to 16 GB 2133 MHz helped a lot especially in Shadow of Mordor, which was the only game where I was having issues with occasinal stutters. That said, the game is a huge VRAM hog (near 6 GB on Titan X, as recommended by the developer for ultra textures). Playing on high textures should be very smooth even if you have 8 GB RAM and there isn't really much of a difference in visuals IMO.

970 SLI should run pretty much anything well at 1080p. I play at 1440p and most games run very smoothly unless you cram in all the MSAA the game can offer. For 4K the 970 SLI is not a great choice.

As for the 980 Ti, it most likely won't be a good upgrade for those who already have a 9xx card. It will most likely end up between the 980 and Titan X prices so maybe 700 euros. 6 GB VRAM is great for anything except 4K resolution where 8 GB would be the sweet spot.
 
How much RAM do you have? I found that upgrading from 8 GB 1600 MHz to 16 GB 2133 MHz helped a lot especially in Shadow of Mordor, which was the only game where I was having issues with occasinal stutters.

Out of curiosity, was ram the only thing you upgraded?
Also, did you set the ram to actually run at 2133 MHz?
 
If you can't hit 60FPS @ 1080p on a 970 you're doing something wrong.
processor(amd procs or really low end intel) or system ram are the only two things that would kill 60 fps at 1080P on the current set of games unless you are turning on crazy amounts of MSAA, TXAA, and certain post processing effects.
 
First game I played with them was shadow of modor Max at 1080p, that game was choppy especially when I rotate the camera quick, Assetto Corsa 1080p Max, the game will drop fps like crazy when there's many cars and smoke, Arma 3 is probably impossible with any gpu because that games just runs terrible even on medium. Witcher 2 has alot of random stutters with ubersampling off. And now Im downloading GTAV and Im doubting 60fps 1080p with max.

I get 120+ FPS on BF4 with sli 970s, may not be the most intensive game but that is using DSR and everything maxed.
 
That's your opinion because you have different expectations to me, that doesn't make it a "stupid mentality"

Is Smokey stupid for upgrading his hardware because he wants the absolute best graphical fidelity?

I don't think he is.

My opinion on maxing settings is everything other than expensive needless forms of AA.

You can rarely tell the difference from say x4 MSAA to x8 MSAA especially if you are downsampling (it is more apparent at 1080P in some games)

It is not a stupid mentality to want to maximise every other graphical setting besides AA, developers put these settings in for people who want to enjoy the game at it's highest fidelity.

It is only stupid to you because you have different expectations, there is no problem with having different expectations however and I understand that but to call people stupid for wanting hardware that acheives the highest possible settings is ignorant.
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isn't it quaint that you find calling people "stupid" unacceptable but calling them "ignorant" is perfectly fine. aren't the meaning of those two words very similar?
 
You guys think the 980ti will have a good resale value 2-3 years down the line?

Assuming $700 starting price, it'll probably fetch $200-300 used in 2-3 years. Tech is like cars, depreciates fast. The only exception I've seen is the original Titan, still going for $500+, might be because of the DP support and VRAM.
 
It's ignorant to call people stupid for a difference of opinion, tell me what is not correct about that statement?

I find calling someone "Stupid" for a difference of opinion unacceptable yes.

it's like complaining about the heat, but accepting the warmth. or to find something unacceptable, but at the same time consider it ok.

fyi, "stupid" and "ignorant" mean basically the same thing.
 
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