He said there's no ideological reason. He can backtrack that saying there are other reasons. Or knowing him, he can backtrack it even without a reason and people will eat it up anyway. Phil is a master of deceit.
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Videogamer: Microsoft alters statement on Xbox Play Anywhere support
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He said there's no ideological reason. He can backtrack that saying there are other reasons. Or knowing him, he can backtrack it even without a reason and people will eat it up anyway. Phil is a master of deceit.
Vince DiCola
Member
Not a big deal. This just covers them if a PC port isn't financially worth it.
Outrun
Member
Yeah, I agree.
However, this will not stop some from railing at MS.
Let us just see how it all plays out. If the Windows Store is an utter failure in the future, why would MS still commit to WIN10 storefront exclusive releases?
starpiercer
Banned
I honestly think that they are going to back out of the "shared future" eco-system and just go with the "shared to some extent but exclusive games on each platform future". I can see games like MS flight sim, AOE4, Starlancer and Freelancer, CSkies and the Mech franchise games exclusive to PC.
Goose_Se7en
Banned
It's starting to feel like MS, Spencer and Co. are grabbing for straws here and don't really have an idea set in place on how to continue on with Xbox.
They need to have a plan and whether right or wrong just stick to it. Their messaging was fumbled back in 2013 and all the hard work Spencer and Co. have done since is beginning to erode with all these mixed messages.
They need to have a plan and whether right or wrong just stick to it. Their messaging was fumbled back in 2013 and all the hard work Spencer and Co. have done since is beginning to erode with all these mixed messages.
Outrun
Member
Yep, he is evil incarnate.
The truth of the matter is that individuals, and organizations backtrack from things all the time. The faux outrage is incredible. I mean, the people that were claiming that the Play Anywhere initiative would kill Xbox console and was a silly idea should be a little relieved now, right?
LordRaptor
Member
Sure.
But aspirational vision statements - as corporate goals usually are - usually don't come with qualifiers.
"We're gonna be number one!" implicitly has more confidence than "We might be number one, based on current achievement of performance targets and the supposition that our competitors will not react to influence our performance negatively"
A good pre-up can be realistic and fair for both sides.
Of course, but its still putting conditions on what is nominally an unconditional concept
They shouldn't, outside of corporate pride and / or internal politics.
Because they promised they would? I mean if you're a longtime follower of what they do I understand that your appreciation of their usage of promises might be very loose, but generally when companies make big policy announcements people expect them to stick to them.
The failure of the win10 store is entirely on them. It's typical of MS to pack their bags and give up on these types of ventures, but it would be nice to see if they would compromise and improve the store instead. Add value for customers and make it more geared for a core gaming audience. It's not impossible. They just need to make concessions on their plan to lock down PC gaming.
Outrun
Member
Yep, people are making mountains out of molehills...
Oh boy...
That' ALL that MS does? I wish I could make billions out of only engaging in deceit....
Obscuritas
Member
Naa.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I think that's sarcasm.
Outrun
Member
It is typical of any company to pack up their bags once they see that they cannot make money out of a venture. MS is not alone in this.
You are right about the store. We will see what happens in the future.
Nah, whatever deal they have made with the VR provider they are partnering with probably altered things a bit.
toddhunter
Member
The plan seems simple.
Give up on the xbox one and give token support to the PC platform again. Then when their next xbox is ready, start competing again and drop the PC platform like a fucking stone.
When in doubt, go with what you know.
LowerLevel
Member
I completely agree. For me, I'm not even sure when I will upgrade my PC versus getting the Scorpio. I run a 980 at the moment so it's gonna have to do...
ChaosZeroX
Banned
Smart by them honestly. They need to keep the Xbox hardware relevant.
amdb00mer
Member
This right here. I'm ok with this and the statement change. It seems all people want to do now is find ways to bash MS or use the word 'backtrack' or the term '180'.
MS is publishing that?
That is a truly awful analogy...
MS' PR are really weird, they can spin anything to make it sound good, but when it comes to just talking about something that is actually good they screw it up in some way.
I'm going to assume they will have almost everything from their 1st party support play anywhere (maybe not Halo), just can't guarantee 3rd party devs/pubs, whose games they are publishing will agree to it, so that's why they've backstepped a bit, after realising what they said.
I'm going to assume they will have almost everything from their 1st party support play anywhere (maybe not Halo), just can't guarantee 3rd party devs/pubs, whose games they are publishing will agree to it, so that's why they've backstepped a bit, after realising what they said.
Ha ofc we still see good old it's one exec fault....
Makes sense given things like DR4 and such. Either way near all first party titles will coming to both platforms.
Makes sense given things like DR4 and such. Either way near all first party titles will coming to both platforms.
Hmm I would say probably MS published because of it not being a console exclusive but who knows.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Or they know what they said, let it circulate for a while and then retracted it.
GHG
Member
But weren't people previously pushing the narrative that UWP allows them to make the PC version for pretty much no cost and that 3rd parties would be foolish to not jump on the play anywhere bandwagon?
LukasTaves
Member
That's too bad, because that's all you are going to get.
But that doesn't negate their promises, even at that point it was clear that they were talking about the Windows Store.
This probably has to do with them not wanting to back themselves into a corner with respect to 3rd party exclusives / timed exclusives that they publish. Studios might not want to opt into the Xbox Play Anywhere program, and I'm sure Microsoft wouldn't want the program to be a potential hangup for them securing any type of deals moving forward.
Quite frankly I'm done with this bullshit.
They speak in absolutes when it comes to reveals and marketing particularly at events and then turn around and add caveats every chance they get.
Folks here get upset when they feel that MS gets a raw deal here but this is the type of horse manure that people can't stand. Is it the end of the world? No. However it again muddies the water when it comes to their policies.
They speak in absolutes when it comes to reveals and marketing particularly at events and then turn around and add caveats every chance they get.
Folks here get upset when they feel that MS gets a raw deal here but this is the type of horse manure that people can't stand. Is it the end of the world? No. However it again muddies the water when it comes to their policies.
Why would they though? It would hardly benefit them. Getting a little bit of goodwill from the minority, only to annoy them, by saying it was a mistake.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
And they never considered that before they announced it?
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. The PC will help them sell software between now and when the Scorpio comes out, but the Scorpio is going to have to have some exclusives (or at least some titles that are timed exclusives) to help increase Scorpio sales. It doesn't make sense for MS to spend so much time and money on the Scorpio to have it partly cannibalized by the PC market and those with Xbox One consoles already.
Also, the Play Anywhere program announcement is influencing PC gamers to already migrate to Windows 10 now. Classic bait and switch. MS will screw over those people that are selling their Xbox now to build a Windows 10 gaming PC. Once they've gotten you to buy or upgrade to a Windows 10 license they will start to have some titles not available on PC to persuade those same people to buy a Scorpio next year.
People like drama.
^ I mean, what else is there when you have no games. /s
lololololol.
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These threads become fun after a while. So serious. lol. Either way, it sucks that they won't do it, I can understand why they wouldn't want to say that but still sucks. I do agree with BGamer90 with making "splash" announcements for Play Anywhere titles. Now when they announce Halo 6 and say it's on PC people can go crazy. Makes sense. I still think that we'll see more PC exclusive titles than Xbox ones...if any (AOE)
Backlogger
Member
I realize there could be exceptions but if they hold back a big title like Halo 6 or something I think it would be a big mistake. Go big or go home. I think they should make their past few W10 releases play anywhere too. I'd be all in on that; but no mind games please.
3rdamention
Member
But didn't they show that on stage at E3? They said all the MS Published games they showed at E3 will be play anywhere.
GHG
Member
^ I mean, what else is there when you have no games. /s
lololololol.
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These threads become fun after a while. So serious. lol. Either way, it sucks that they won't do it, I can understand why they wouldn't want to say that but still sucks. I do agree with BGamer90 with making "splash" announcements for Play Anywhere titles. Now when they announce Halo 6 and say it's on PC people can go crazy. Makes sense. I still think that we'll see more PC exclusive titles than Xbox ones...if any (AOE)
To be honest I think this statement just confirms that they won't be leaving the console business any time soon.
Thank god.
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Deleted member 47027
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Because there's a lot of dorks looking for a loophole to get them with a "gotcha!" For some reason.