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[Patrol]

Not good, indeed. I hope the injured officers make a full recovery. A very tense and dark evening may be upon the city; I hope all the officers stay safe tonight and can help bring calm to the situation.

Perhaps it may be time for the national guard to come in as the footage I've seen show the police greatly outnumbered and with businesses being looted and destroyed.

 

[Maninthemirror]

No, it works long term. Laws have been changed that have forever altered the course of history, leading to changes in attitudes toward people and massive changes in the lives of oppressed peoples. Countries have been toppled due to it, changing attitudes of people toward government.

This is such a wrong headed view of history that it's almost as if you're just responding with your emotional gut feeling rather than anything in reality. You don't have to like anarchy. You don't have to like these rioters. You have to however accept the reality of history, because these things already have happened countless times in the past and they've worked. In the long term too.

I personally think something the opposite of anarchy, calm, methodological organization can fullfill it in the long term much better. anarchy might seem as the easy way to make policy change and HOPE that perhaps people's attitude change but I think when show regard for other people who are not involved in this (livelyhood and life) you can change the the policy AND the attitudes of all the people from within, not forced because of policy. I think you can bend the will of a person and it becomes perceived apparent he has changed but when that person changes from within, the change makes him do more for those who he thought as once inferior.

 

[Velcro Fly]

*oh*

almost got me

then i scrolled all the way down

nope racism is definitely dead everyone!

 

[Slayven]

*oh*

When you are so racist it burns.

 

[Kriken]

The Orioles game is going on as planned? Are they fucking crazy?

Yes, but with a high police prescence

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Institutionalized racism thanks you for your continued apathy toward it and focus on "proper protesting"

 

[surrealist]

Edit live feed: http://www.breaking911.com/baltimore-swat-officers-in-standoff-with-protesters-livestream-here/

Oh wow, at the video of police forced to retreat.

 

[Omegasquash]

So destroying someone's business is going to stop that?

So it's better for them to sit and take it? Better yet, get a job on the force, or become an elected official?

People are mad as shit. No one is condoning hard core violence to innocent bystanders but ffs STOP. A business or two getting taken down is not even close to what happened to spark this off.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

So can someone bring up a map of the stadium in proximity to the CVS? Baltimore is a big place, isn't it?

Fans were kept in the stadium two days ago because of this so I think it's pretty close.

 

[esms]

*oh*

The dude's name is Dave Southern. Like, cmon.

 

[prwxv3]

Oh no, what a tragedy. Lord help us.

You do know that some people take drugs that keep them alive right?

 

[Rembrandt]

This thread, man. This thread.

 

[commedieu]

Great, now it'll give another huge excuse to make the cops become more militaristic.

Who cares? They are already killing black people in cold blood. How is it going to get, worse..?
They will steal our souls too? Militarization of police isn't the solution, the solution is for people to wake the fuck up and demand change from their government on the behalf of the victims that have no voice nationally.

When is everyone going to demand that black people shouldn't be killed by police all the time? Till then, the police will continue to do exactly what they've been doing. Being corrupt and out of control. Its starting with us, but its going to get to all of you. Its like no one understands history here.

Sure, people are rioting, who gives a damn? Why do they need to riot? Oh thats right, their population is targeted by law enforcement. There is no legal representation. There are no options. None.

What else do people expect to happen at this point? Blacks have done everything to not get shot to death by the police and incarcerated more than anyone else. Nothing is working because the problem isn't the actions of the black people. Its the police and the justice system, as well as world views of blacks. Which is just promoted by media bias, and the private prison lobby.

People really need to stop the bullshit, and get to solving the problem. The problem is the governments treatment of blacks and others, its been this way. And people are shocked that its just now getting violent, we've been living with this abuse for decades. Now its on twitter, still the same non-action by other citizens. No solutions. Nothing.

 

[HooYaH]

These threads are always depressing.

The amount of people willing to forgive or justify barbarity on either side never ceases to amaze me.

I agree, I can't believe some people here think this is just.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

100% factually wrong. Every major change in human history has come from violent uprising. America as a country wouldn't exist if the American Revolution was "civil".

Agreed.

Fuck, why stop at looting. Burn the whole town to the ground! Fuck it! Lets make business owners think again before coming to Baltimore!

 

[8 X 11 Printer Paper]

*oh*

Well...at least he didn't bring out a watermelon right?

 

[Lil'DigiOp]

That poster's "bias" is for the innocent store clerk and store manager who are now out of jobs, or the people who actually need to buy things at CVS day to day (perscriptions for instance). And yeah, I am biased against looters too. What of it?

I'm lucky, I know that if my CVS were violently shut down that I could easily get my prescriptions sent to another CVS or mailed to my house... But a lot of other people don't have that luxury or flexibility.



I think it's ridiculous that you juxtapose looting a CVS versus black people being shot by police, as if one depends on the other... Like, the only way that we're going to get police to stop shooting black people is if we all collectively loot CVS.

If CVS is going to fire people because of a riot that was out of any control of the employees then fuck CVS, you shouldn't support them either.

My argument is that with everything that has gone on in the last 3 years, why are you surprised some kids trashed a CVS in the wake of this.

 

[PopeReal]

America values property over black lives. Seeing black Americans murdered doesn't shake them. But a broken store window sure does.

 

[LiK]

where are the cops? they're just gonna keep letting them loot it?

 

[DrForester]

Man, I can't imagine what's going through the minds of the people in those cars. Seeing that burning car and the people rioting. I really hope this doesn't turn into one of those situations of a driver running over a crowd of people because they're scared.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Most of the dudes throwing shit/looting probably don't give a shit about the guy that was killed, they are just looking for an excuse to do crazy shit.

The black population has a right to be angry at how they tend to be treated but I hate when people capitalize on others' unfortunate tragedies.

 

[The Albatross]

*oh*

Is he... burning that in a KFC bucket...?

 

[commedieu]

America values property over black lives. Seeing black Americans murdered doesn't shake them. But a broken store window sure does.

exactly. Sick of this shit. "OMG AN INSURED BUILDING< FUCKING ...err..not n*ggers.. but..uh..THUGS! FUCKING THUGS!!"

 

[Rpgmonkey]

So can someone bring up a map of the stadium in proximity to the CVS? Baltimore is a big place, isn't it?

It's not far by car/subway/light rail, but it's not really a distance you'd walk/run at all.

 

[IISANDERII]

You wouldn't say that if your own front yard was being destroyed and set fire to.
That's what's happening here.

Sure you would if you weren't appealing to emotion.

 

[GulAtiCa]

I thought they got the police car fire out? Or is that NBC feed delayed?

 

[Stereogatari]

America values property over black lives. Seeing black Americans murdered doesn't shake them. But a broken store window sure does.

Please stop with this bullshit strawman. You don't know what shakes or doesn't shake people posting against these rioters.

 

[Indicate]

oh man

 

[i3allistic]

^^ MLG patch? ...LOL

 

[Marauder Shields]

It's interesting that all this is happening in spite of the family (of the victim) wishes.

 

[Omegasquash]

Agreed.

Fuck, why stop at looting. Burn the whole town to the ground! Fuck it! Lets make business owners think again before coming to Baltimore!

Thanks for your contribution to the thread. /s

 

[Dishwalla]

Is that dude in the Twitter pic burning a Kentucky Fried bucket? Kind of scary that KFC is that flammable honestly, all that oil.

 

[Cyd0nia]

You wouldn't say that if your own front yard was being destroyed and set fire to.
That's what's happening here.

But I would. I would grieve any true loss of life or property but I'd see the bigger picture. I would blame the injustice not the response.

Nothing is happening via legitimate means. At least it appears that way. Is anyone surprised?

 

[ActuallyHulk]

This isn't surprising at all to me. Extremely depressing but it's no surprise. Things have been heading towards violence for some time now. It's probably going to get even worse too before it gets better. I'm not advocating violence at all, but its honestly not hard to see how some people feel like it's now needed. I just hope the outcome leads to a better future and not a worse one. The situation could lead to either.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

I thought they got the police car fire out? Or is that NBC feed delayed?

Tires can burn/smolder for a while.

 

[King Tubby]

Well it's not like peaceful protests have done anything. They have to at least try.

How do you even know this? It seems rather clear the protests over the last few years are slowly but surely having an effect, at least in increasing the amount of national attention turned to police misconduct.

America values property over black lives. Seeing black Americans murdered doesn't shake them. But a broken store window sure does.

This is such a stupid binary view of the situation.

 

[Kinsei]

Is that dude in the Twitter pic burning a Kentucky Fried bucket? Kind of scary that KFC is that flammable honestly, all that oil.

He probably poured something flammable on it first.

 

[……forgetit]

*oh*

I really need to read the rest of his post, I gotta know the reasoning behind burning a bucket of Chicken. I know it's racist, but just so strange.

 

[jstripes]

where are the cops? they're just gonna keep letting them loot it?

I don't think the cops want any part of this right now. It's impossible to intervene without giving the protesters exactly what they're looking for.

Kinda cowardly on their part, but it would be a spark to a powder keg.

 

[entremet]

America values property over black lives. Seeing black Americans murdered doesn't shake them. But a broken store window sure does.

The issue is when businesses leave these cities, who is hurting more? You need an economic engine not just only a social one. It's a really terrible cycle and I really can't see positive in violent riots.

 

[Rembrandt]

Please stop with this bullshit strawman.

It's true, though. All it takes is a broken window for everyone to forget why these people are out here.

I don't give a fuck about a business being looted when we're being murdered and I definitely give zero fucks about those cops.

 

[theignoramus]

Perhaps not, but hey when the irritation of their world is teaching them that no one cares about their lives, because of mere skin colour, don't expect them to care about your mere things.

This post is a doozy, shit. Cant be quoted enough.

 

[Cyd0nia]

Well...at least he didn't bring out a watermelon right?

A burning watermelon would complete the image. What a fucking idiot.

 

[LiK]

I don't think the cops want any part of this right now. It's impossible to intervene without giving the protesters exactly what they're looking for.

i'm more fearful of pedestrians and commuters who happen to be going through that area during the looting.

 

[GulAtiCa]

Tires can burn/smolder for a while.

Whole car is on fire again and out of control and firefighters are gone. I assume they couldn't put it out completely?

 

[braves01]

Tragic. Violence and looting do no service to the original spirit and message of the protest. Hopefully law enforcement is able to restore order as quickly and peacefully as possible.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

We need powerful white people to speak out when black people get killed by the police. That might change things.

Then you wouldnt have these riots.

White people hold the power.

 

[The Albatross]

If CVS is going to fire people because of a riot that was out of any control of the employees then fuck CVS, you shouldn't support them either.

My argument is that with everything that has gone on in the last 3 years, why are you surprised some kids trashed a CVS in the wake of this.

Your argument has actually changed from post to post, but to reply to this latest bit of brilliance, No, I am not surprised either, I'm just not pretending that there aren't negative consequences. Your naive world view is that trashing a CVS only hurts a corporation and not anybody else, and therefore, trashing a CVS is okay. I was hoping to show you that, well, no, real people are also effected negatively when an even evil corporation like CVS is trashed and it doesn't help anybody.

But, I'm always against opportunistic looters, so call me crazy.

 

[Omegasquash]

i'm more fearful of pedestrians and commuters who happen to be going through that area during the looting.

This is where concern should be, as well as peaceful protesters.

 

[Rembrandt]

The issue is when businesses leave these cities, who is hurting more? You need an economic engine not just only a social one. It's a really terrible cycle and I really can't see positive in violent riots.

Even after numerous people have explained that violent riots have brought change or been the big stepping stone to bringing change. Don't pretend we haven't been out peacefully protesting for years without any change.