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[CrazyDude]

If I was angry and no one was listening to what I had to say, could you blame me? What else should I do? Again. It isn't an apt comparison

Aim your punch at the person doing the punching.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Murder

























Looting and Property Damage

It'd be so great if mainstream America was as outraged at the former as they are the latter.

 

[Cream]

ABSOLUTELY I WILL BLAME YOU

So I should just take it? I should just deal with it for decades and decades?

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

Basically my point in better words.

Your "point" was that people's mothers didn't raise them to your high standards of aloof and relative morality

By the way, how has leaning back and taking things worked so far?

Now, as many people (and not this GAF entity you dislike) have said, we don't condone the rioting but understand where it comes from.

 

[slit]

I'm sorry I thought we were a civilized society. And no, what does fighting back get you? In high school if some kid punched me he was in trouble, if I socked him back I was in just as much trouble as him.

Ha! Yeah, where did you ever get a naive idea that that?

Civilized society my ass. More like brush the ugliness under the carpet society.

 

[Josh5890]

Umm seriously? As if this case was the ONE and ONLY time the government has proved itself to being failing its citizens?!?

Wow.

That isn't what I am saying. Yes they have failed before but you are saying that this situation is already a done deal when it isn't.

 

[TheAbsolution]

MSNBC had some good people on the panel to talk about the situation in Baltimore. puts it into perspective. gonna keep switching around tonight.

I've actually been impressed by all 3 networks at some point throughout the night.
Fox has actually been pretty good most of the night so far other than Megyn which surprised me the most.

 

[crazyprac]

So I should just take it? I should just deal with it for decades and decades?

I think they're just saying to aim your anger to the person punching you. Not the small kid or business owners.

 

[Maninthemirror]

Oh Jesus,

A civil society doesnt wear sheets and hang people from ropes.

A civil society doesnt blast people with fire hoses and sick dogs on em.

A civil society doesn't hold rights from citizens due to skin color.

A civil society doesn't unjustly crack down on a population of people.

A civil society doesn't outcast a portion of people and leave them without resources to build themselves and educate themselves.

Get a clue. America isn't a civil society.

This is a reaction to shit that has built up for 300 years. We still aren't finished.

if you don't think its a civil society, it doesnt mean people cant act civil aspiring for it to be one.

 

[kendrid]

CBS Baltimore feed
http://www.statter911.com/2015/04/27/watch-listen-live-disturbances-in-baltimore/

 

[Mammoth Jones]

I've actually been impressed by all 3 networks at some point throughout the night.
Fox has actually been pretty good most of the night so far other than Megyn.

I was shocked judge Napolitano was actually pretty adamant that cops shouldn't be breaking necks and just going silent and not making a statement and how guilty that appears.

 

[The Llama]

#symbolic

 

[esms]

I agree, but it's too bad they would be inevitably corrupted by their influence and ultimately fail.

So it goes with that type of person. Stalins without the mustache.

Spoiler

The mustache is the KGB/Red Army in this poor analogy.

Yeah, the whole power corrupts thing. I'll maintain a sliver of hope for someone rational to take the national stage.

Spoiler

I appreciated the mental image of baby-face Stalin.

 

[Lil'DigiOp]

if you don't think its a civil society, it doesnt mean people cant act civil aspiring for it to be one.

"Wait your turn black folk, wait your turn"

 

[Oxn]

Oh Jesus,

A civil society doesnt wear sheets and hang people from ropes.

A civil society doesnt blast people with fire hoses and sick dogs on em.

A civil society doesn't hold rights from citizens due to skin color.

A civil society doesn't unjustly crack down on a population of people.

A civil society doesn't outcast a portion of people and leave them without resources to build themselves and educate themselves.

Get a clue. America isn't a civil society.

This is a reaction to shit that has built up for 300 years. We still aren't finished.

Well when you are finished let me know what you have accomplished OK?

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

America was literally built on slavery and genocide, the legacies of which continue today.

Is that civil?

 

[jamesinclair]

At this rate Baltimore is going to become the next Detroit.

Keep it up Rioters, it's your own neighborhood you're destroying.

What an ignorant and tone deaf comment.

I'm not sure why people think the rioting is still related to Gray and his death. It's obvious that Gray's death was just the catalyst.

The city is rioting in response to the economical, social, and educational disenfranchisement that has been occurring to the poor black neighborhoods in Baltimore.

This has grown to something much bigger and I don't see it ending soon.

This is correct.


For those making ignorant comments about the community, why not explore the blocks where Freddy was arrested?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.308...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1saEQ5An5HR3E6Eh-SIxbIag!2e0

You really think some looting of a seven eleven is going to "kill investment" in the city?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.322...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1szfCJHhGSmri_hLIfj94Mew!2e0

If this is what you see every day, what fucking investment? If this is the block you walk down every day, do you think anyone gives a shit about you?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.310...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sCDJY381e9cl9kzIzPwnTmg!2e0

This is three , THREE blocks away from Johns Hopkins, one of the richest institutions in the country.

https://goo.gl/maps/2DqE7

Click on this one, https://goo.gl/maps/1L2h7 and then move your position one click forward.

See any reason to be angry, maybe?

 

[Sushi Nao]

I'm sorry I thought we were a civilized society. And no, what does fighting back get you? In high school if some kid punched me he was in trouble, if I socked him back I was in just as much trouble as him.

What do you do when the bully kills your friends and family for hundreds of years and the principal gives them a medal?

 

[CygnusXS]

if you don't think its a civil society, it doesnt mean people cant act civil aspiring for it to be one.

Reciprocity needs to be earned.

 

[Cream]

if you don't think its a civil society, it doesnt mean people cant act civil aspiring for it to be one.

So, are you in all the threads of cops shooting innocent black people, saying they should be thrown in jail for being uncivil?

I hope so

 

[CitizenCope]

Wow this Sherrif on Fox.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

if you don't think its a civil society, it doesnt mean people cant act civil aspiring for it to be one.

Especially law enforcement that are given vast privileges and power over the rest of us. They should be the ones setting an example.

 

[Lil'DigiOp]

Well when you are finished let me know what you have accomplished OK?

What are you talking about? You're involved too! Your apathy keeps the hate alive in the system. *edit*

 

[Josh5890]

No I'm not. I'm saying that the government in general over years and years has failed its citizens over and over again.

Ok that I can agree with. Your first post I quoted felt like you were saying that the cops were already walking. There has been plenty of failure over the years on the part of the justice system.

 

[PeregrinSe7en]

Oh no, what a tragedy. Lord help us.

oh my. smh. the ignorance of this post.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

What are you talking about? You're involved too! Your apathy keeps the hate alive in the system. *edit*

It's not a bug.

It's a feature.

 

[Cream]

if you don't think its a civil society, it doesnt mean people cant act civil aspiring for it to be one.

The oppressed are not the ones that owe anyone anything.

 

[TheAbsolution]

Wow this Sherrif on Fox.

Good wow or bad wow?
I've been switching between all 3

 

[FadedRevolution]

I really hope one day those that speak and talk down to black people have to deal with the same bullshit we have to deal with for hundreds of years and then maybe you can understand why shit is happening the way it is now.

 

[PopeReal]

So we are still getting the concerned lectures on how people should react after years of the police targeting and killing them?

Oh of course we are.

All the usual ones: "be peaceful (and don't bother me, I have to get to work/school).... why are you taking it out on your community, why don't you just sit and wait for change? I will tell you when it will happen with some imaginary time frame in my head!"

 

[Maninthemirror]

Reciprocity needs to be earned.

what will gain more for people. civil disobedience like defiance or riots? acting angrily can gain anyone attention short term but will never change the will of the person who oppsresses you. you can bend a body but to change the inner conviction, the change has to come from within by them looking at your aspiration for a civil society

 

[my name is ed]

Reading through this thread it absolutely fucking baffles me that some people here support the rioting.


Really GAF?



Really?


Your mother's never taught you that responding to violence with violence gets you nowhere?

If your mother told you that, she needs to learn history.

 

[slit]

if you don't think its a civil society, it doesnt mean people cant act civil aspiring for it to be one.

.....and be run over by a steamroller in the process. If someone wants to martyr themselves go right ahead but don't be surprised when people don't want to follow.

 

[Banana Aeon]

if you don't think its a civil society, it doesnt mean people cant act civil aspiring for it to be one.

Can we also ask the police to be civil?

 

[Ziltoidia 9]

LMFAO at fox for dropping the interview when she was going to tell them how it is.

 

[tbm24]

Wow this Sherrif on Fox.

It really sounded like he was challenging rioters.

 

[Lil'DigiOp]

Really civil society? I cant get over that shite. Aint nothing civil about American history bruh

 

[Ponn]

BWAHAHAHA - Lady on Fox was about to serve Hannity up some crow and he quickly tells reporter to cut her off they have to go to break.

 

[Cream]

what will gain more for people. civil disobedience like defiance or riots? acting angrily can gain anyone attention short term but will never change the will of the person who oppsresses you. you can bend a body but to change the inner conviction, the change has to come from within by them looking at your aspiration for a civil society

Omg

 

[Oxn]

Can we also ask the police to be civil?

Ofcourse you can.

 

[EloquentM]

Can we also ask the police to be civil?

What are you talking about! We stress civility with police officers as evidenced by taking them off the streets and giving them paid vacations!

 

[Kid Kamikaze10]

Ta-Nehisi Coates has entered the battlefield!

When nonviolence is preached as an attempt to evade the repercussions of political brutality, it betrays itself. When nonviolence begins halfway through the war with the aggressor calling time-out, it exposes itself as a ruse. When nonviolence is preached by the representatives of the state, while the state doles out heaps of violence to its citizens, it reveals itself to be a con. And none of this can mean that rioting or violence is "correct" or "wise" anymore than a forest fire can be "correct" or "wise." Wisdom isn't the point, tonight. Disrespect is. In this case disrespect for the hollow law and failed order that so regularly disrespects the rioters themselves.

 

[ahoyhoy]

What an ignorant and tone deaf comment.



This is correct.


For those making ignorant comments about the community, why not explore the blocks where Freddy was arrested?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.308...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1saEQ5An5HR3E6Eh-SIxbIag!2e0

You really think some looting of a seven eleven is going to "kill investment" in the city?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.322...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1szfCJHhGSmri_hLIfj94Mew!2e0

If this is what you see every day, what fucking investment? If this is the block you walk down every day, do you think anyone gives a shit about you?

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.310...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sCDJY381e9cl9kzIzPwnTmg!2e0

This is three , THREE blocks away from Johns Hopkins, one of the richest institutions in the country.

https://goo.gl/maps/2DqE7

Click on this one, https://goo.gl/maps/1L2h7 and then move your position one click forward.

See any reason to be angry, maybe?

Always thought it was sad the neighborhoods off of Orleans near Hopkins were amongst the worse looking in the city. People have to eek out a living there in the shadow of a multi-billion dollar institution.

 

[Crimson_Gold]

I think they're just saying to aim your anger to the person punching you. Not the small kid or business owners.

You mean the one that gets to hit you with impunity? Yea...that's not going to help much either.

People say why aren't they rioting in city hall and the police station haven't stopped to realize the ramifications of that. If cops are able to kill you in your own neighborhood, what can they do to you if you attack a police station? There is no winning in that scenario. The rioting in of itself isn't a win. It is a cry for help. It is the rage of an abused person that is lashing out in hopes of getting free. All of this talk of civility is beyond frustrating. There is nothing civil about what has been done to this sector of our society. Nothing civil occurs because they disenfranchise people to prevent them from having a political and economic voice. Have you seen cops hold your brother at gunpoint on a routine traffic stop? Have you seen them force you to leave your windows down so rain can get in your car on an infant? This isn't even the worst of it. Yea...there's a riot going on. You should ask yourself why someone would react this way. I thought understanding was a part of being civil.

 

[E92 M3]

Oh Jesus,

A civil society doesnt wear sheets and hang people from ropes.

A civil society doesnt blast people with fire hoses and sick dogs on em.

A civil society doesn't hold rights from citizens due to skin color.

A civil society doesn't unjustly crack down on a population of people.

A civil society doesn't outcast a portion of people and leave them without resources to build themselves and educate themselves.

Get a clue. America isn't a civil society.

This is a reaction to shit that has built up for 300 years. We still aren't finished.

You're just spewing BS now. "America isn't a civil society." lol

 

[CitizenCope]

Good wow or bad wow?
I've been switching between all 3

His tone is just one of not backing down.
"If these criminal crooks want to declare a war on police a lot more of them are going to be dead than police officers".
I think he's talking more about threats made to the police than what's going on now.

 

[Lil'DigiOp]

what will gain more for people. civil disobedience like defiance or riots? acting angrily can gain anyone attention short term but will never change the will of the person who oppsresses you. you can bend a body but to change the inner conviction, the change has to come from within by them looking at your aspiration for a civil society

"If you want change, just lay down and take it in the ass. It'll come one day if we ever decide to act"

 

[Banana Aeon]

what will gain more for people. civil disobedience like defiance or riots? acting angrily can gain anyone attention short term but will never change the will of the person who oppsresses you. you can bend a body but to change the inner conviction, the change has to come from within by them looking at your aspiration for a civil society

When has this ever led to change? Please inform me of these peaceful movements that had worked.

Nearly every single movement has had some violence spearheading the movement.

 

[Josh5890]

I know this is rather insignificant in the grand scheme of the things but I wonder how long the Orioles will be affected by this. The commish is considering moving their next couple games to DC.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

When nonviolence is preached as an attempt to evade the repercussions of political brutality, it betrays itself. When nonviolence begins halfway through the war with the aggressor calling time-out, it exposes itself as a ruse. When nonviolence is preached by the representatives of the state, while the state doles out heaps of violence to its citizens, it reveals itself to be a con. And none of this can mean that rioting or violence is "correct" or "wise" anymore than a forest fire can be "correct" or "wise." Wisdom isn't the point, tonight. Disrespect is. In this case disrespect for the hollow law and failed order that so regularly disrespects the rioters themselves.

ta nesihi coates on today

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/nonviolence-as-compliance/391640/