Iacobellis
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Did they bring back the SIM slot and unused port from the 1000?
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Vita 3000 trademarked?
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Azure Dream
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Was daydreaming the other day about a New 3DS-style update. Beefier internals. 1080p screen, with updates to some popular prior games to support it (including some games that couldn't even hit native res before). Micro SD support. L2 and R2 N3DS-style (and L3+R3 on the sticks if possible). PS4's built in chip for recording or broadcasting, or maybe just some kind of Chromecast-like functionality. Update PSTV to match, since a set-top box that can't run at 1080p is kind of weak. Basically, just make a go of the Vita's Rebirth.
I really hope they do more than just stick an HDMI port on it, although I admit that in itself is not undesired.
I really hope they do more than just stick an HDMI port on it, although I admit that in itself is not undesired.
schwabdizzle
Banned
All Sony really needs to do is just add the l2 and r2 buttons and make the analog sticks clickable it's not rocket science.
In fairness, manufacturing proprietary cards is probably reasonably expensive to the point they'd could never offer them at close to SD card prices (or prices people would consider reasonable).
Memory prices have been a consistent complaint since the console was released, so if they genuinely wanted to give it one last go moving to a standardised memory card would make a lot of sense. There shouldn't really be any security concerns at all, they can just enforce full card encryption as they do with PS3/PS4 hard drives there is effectively no difference here.
NinjamicWZ
Banned
I'll buy it day 1 for an HDMI out, as long as it's not digital-only. Any other new features would be appreciated.
Look how what turned out? PSP sold around 80 million, Vita will be lucky to sell 1/4 of that
PSP was also out for like 10 years while vita not as long. it was also a time where not everyone had a smartphone
GloriousBagel
Banned
I could care less about Sony's pockets they're currently banking on the PS4 with almost no games lol. I'm a consumer and I could give two fucks if Sony loses money on the Vita, though the Vita is profitable if that even matters.
Sony backing out of the handheld market would suck, just leaving Nintendo in the handheld market wouldn't be cool at all, I don't like the idea of market space monopolies.
It kinda doesn't!
Rain City Gamer
Member
^^^^^ This,
No need to redesign unless they add AT LEAST this for remote play reasons.
FlashFlooder
Member
Would buy 5, if it had these features:
-OLED screen (not gonna happen)
-microSD support (not gonna happen)
-proper L2/R2 (not gonna happen)
:-/
-OLED screen (not gonna happen)
-microSD support (not gonna happen)
-proper L2/R2 (not gonna happen)
:-/
flatearthpandas
Member
Nintendo might as well have a monopoly if the Vita is all you're considering as competition. They'll have their hands full competing with mobile, don't worry.
Gamer @ Heart
Member
Yeah, because the 3ds gets more than fucking idie games
GloriousBagel
Banned
They're losing market share to the mobile industry. What happens then? Nintendo is on the decline, with both their home console and handheld. Have fun with your mobile games buddy.
entremet
Member
Doubful. Android is pirate's dream. And Sony was burned badly with PSP piracy.
cj_iwakura
Member
And so does the Vita, don't do this.
Nice, will be interesting to see how they'll try to improve on the PS Vita 2000 which is already the perfect handheld for me. ^.^
I'm out of this thread for now, because I know this always turns into silly handheld wars, silly melodramacy about the PS Vita and sheer closed-mindedness from some people.
I'm out of this thread for now, because I know this always turns into silly handheld wars, silly melodramacy about the PS Vita and sheer closed-mindedness from some people.
John Bender
Banned
But it IS about money and Sony's "pockets". Therefore, you won't see another handheld from Sony. That's for sure!
And about that "PS4 with almost no games".... lol... that garbage meme won't die, as it seems.
Orniletter
Banned
I'm tired of overdefensive fans reducing legitimate criticism like
"The PS4 had no great exclusives before Bloodborne came out"
and
"The Vita lacks mid-budget retail exclusives with any form of mainstream appeal"
to LOL NO GAMES strawmen arguments that are easy to refute by posting links to Wikipedia or that unholy "over 9000 Vita games" thread.
"The PS4 had no great exclusives before Bloodborne came out"
and
"The Vita lacks mid-budget retail exclusives with any form of mainstream appeal"
to LOL NO GAMES strawmen arguments that are easy to refute by posting links to Wikipedia or that unholy "over 9000 Vita games" thread.
cj_iwakura
Member
I really doubt it. The crowd who support and love the Vita are happy with what it is, and those added costs won't convert the masses. Sony are happy with targeting the existing demographic. Small as it is, it's certainly profitable(see: all the niche software releases).
I sold my Vita a few months ago when I needed some cash. Now that I'm in a better economic situation (or, hopefully, I'll be in a few weeks), I might consider rebuying a Vita only if it comes with microSD support. I'm not paying ~75 for a propietary card of decent size again.
Dragonslayer_023
Banned
I can't imagine they would release a new Vita model without R2/L2 buttons for remote play, that's the revision it needs to most. Personally I'll always stick with the 1000 for dat OLED.
And yet it keeps being ignored. :|
This. I'll never let go of the OLED. But they can let go of backtouch and I'll buy it.
Orniletter said:
That "OVER 9000!" thread is pretty outdated last I checked it. It still had Disgaea 4 as "coming soon" despite it having been released for like 6 months or so.
BibiMaghoo
Member
You seem very certain.
I wouldn't be. Sony are not known to bail out of sectors they've performed well in because of a bad product line. Perhaps it would be better for them if they did, but I'm fairly confident we will see another.
GloriousBagel
Banned
You know what a meme is?
NegativeCero
Banned
Third party memory would be enough to make me switch from my 1000. OLED would be hard to give up too.
I own a Vita 2000 and I'm not bothered by its LCD screen after having played 4 or 5 games on an OLED Vita a friend of mine has, around 150 hours of OLED gaming.
Now, if they add Micro SD compatibility and my country has a cool renove plan like the one they did for the N3DS, I will jump to 3000 with no doubt, I'm stuck with my 8GB memory card and I have to be downloading games in groups of 2 to 3.
So, if this is legit, let's hope they bring bigger changes than round shapes and cooler buttons.
Now, if they add Micro SD compatibility and my country has a cool renove plan like the one they did for the N3DS, I will jump to 3000 with no doubt, I'm stuck with my 8GB memory card and I have to be downloading games in groups of 2 to 3.
So, if this is legit, let's hope they bring bigger changes than round shapes and cooler buttons.
Devilgunman
Member
I don't think the reason Sony would quite handheld market is due to Vita's poor performance, but more of the fact that handheld is a shrinking market. Nintendo can keep pumping out its handheld because they have a huge catalog of long lasting franchises to support it. Sony just don't have that kind of luxury. Sooner or later mobile phone will completely take over handheld market and I think it's better for Sony to get out of the race and focus on their console and VR.
People truly believe this is real??
kingwingin
Member
I think sony for sure will make another handheld. Like the ps3 to ps4 They will be a little more open minded with what's going on around them rather then releasing what they think we want.
Gaming is their bread and butter these days and I'd imagine they want to anchor that brand name down to as many homes as possible
Gaming is their bread and butter these days and I'd imagine they want to anchor that brand name down to as many homes as possible
flatearthpandas
Member
What's the point you're trying to make, exactly? More importantly, how would another non-competitor help things?
Remember you're the one that claimed Nintendo would have a monopoly.
Jacksonlee
Member
i have a 230~ giftcard to ebgames that needs to be used up before they take off 2$ every month... and hopefully this comes out before that.
or unless i can use the giftcards to buy pre-paid crediticards?
or unless i can use the giftcards to buy pre-paid crediticards?
Ingueferroque
Banned
Yes!!!!!!!! Willl buy day 1. It really could use triggers, and now that we can map our controls in the software, this could work well with older titles as well.
To those trolling that Vita is dead and has no games... Odd, since Ill be buying another two new releases this week that I really look forward to. Unless you expect a new Uncharted level exclusive, there is plenty of content on the device.
To those trolling that Vita is dead and has no games... Odd, since Ill be buying another two new releases this week that I really look forward to. Unless you expect a new Uncharted level exclusive, there is plenty of content on the device.
You can't but you can search who quoted you this way, it's not perfect but...
Would like a reply notification, but hey.
autoduelist
Member
That's sort of his point. The features people insist they 'need' before they'll buy often don't transfer into sales.
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I honestly don't think it's as big of a deal as most people make it out to be: let's take the most common complaint: the memory cards. So yes, you can get a widely manufactured and competitively priced 64g micro SD card for around $30, sometimes a bit cheaper, so let's call it $25.
The niche 64g card for a niche Vita, with no benefits from economies of scale, can be got fairly easily for around $85 new with a tiny touch of patience. That makes it about $60 more expensive -- assuming you absolutely positively need 64g, which most people don't. [I do, certainly, but I could use a 256g card.] But most people can easily get by on the card included with their system for long enough to decide if they want to invest further in a card.
That extra $60 changes the cost of entry to have a new Vita with a maxed out mem card from, what, about $210ish (if it used msd) to $270 (with proprietary 64g) or so to have the best mem card? (Though again, most people can just get by with a new system + included card). What's it cost to get a New 3dsxl with a 64g mem card? (seriously, I'm asking.) Looking at Amazon, you'd be in that same range, about $230 or so? Is it really that hard to justify an extra $30 or $40 given the advanced tech of the vita?
People act like that extra $60 (for 64g) due to a proprietary card is $600. And again, you don't even need to buy a 64g card! How many people have well over $60 worth of games they want to play from ps+? What is having a really nice portable Ps1 (and psp) player worth? Remote play? I'm not saying these excuse the extra price, but they certainly help justify a purchase somewhat -- i know the ps+ games I got at the launch of vita's IGC (uncharted, wipeout, fftactics, etc) pushed me over the edge to buy a Vita.
At this point, many already in the sony ecosystem might have dozens of games for their Vita already. So I find it really hard to swallow that it's the extra $60 they might have to spend on a memory card that's keeping them from buying a Vita. I just don't see it. Certainly not on a widespread scale. I'm not saying I enjoyed paying $85 for my memory card. Obviously i wish it was $1. i just don't that I truly believe that it's the 'deal breaker' causing people not to buy Vitas.
I bought my Vita at launch and I think one of the biggest reasons it gets the whole 'no games' thing is lack of big games.
It's fine that it gets a slew of indie and smaller budget games but initially they spoke about things like Bioshock etc and they never materialised. It's those games that attracted people to the system. Not everybody cares about niche Japanese games or average ports of DS games, and for those that do that's perfectly fine.
I love my Vita but it's increasingly a PS+ game machine and cross buy games and that's a real shame. It could be so much more, imagine a native GTA or InFamous game running in full glory or even a decent FIFA or Call of Duty. Those are the types of games that help sell systems. I can't help but think many of us were sold a dream to be honest.
At this point I'd happily accept an update that allowed for Dualshock 4 support so I could at least use it as a proper remote play console. Perhaps marketing it as a PS4 accessory and dropping the price would help too. Like I say, I'm not knocking the Vita nor am I saying it has no games - only that for many people it doesn't have the games they were led to believe were coming.
It's fine that it gets a slew of indie and smaller budget games but initially they spoke about things like Bioshock etc and they never materialised. It's those games that attracted people to the system. Not everybody cares about niche Japanese games or average ports of DS games, and for those that do that's perfectly fine.
I love my Vita but it's increasingly a PS+ game machine and cross buy games and that's a real shame. It could be so much more, imagine a native GTA or InFamous game running in full glory or even a decent FIFA or Call of Duty. Those are the types of games that help sell systems. I can't help but think many of us were sold a dream to be honest.
At this point I'd happily accept an update that allowed for Dualshock 4 support so I could at least use it as a proper remote play console. Perhaps marketing it as a PS4 accessory and dropping the price would help too. Like I say, I'm not knocking the Vita nor am I saying it has no games - only that for many people it doesn't have the games they were led to believe were coming.