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[DieH@rd]

Just got a vita, couple of questions

Is it possible to turn off the back panel touchpad icon that pops up while remote playing? If we cant use it why does it show up? I see it popping up all the time. its not comfortable for me to just hold the vita in the non touch areas. And yet on regular games it doesnt show up? Only RP?

Also a little unrelated, is it possible to turn off the power up sounds of PS3 or PS4, so annoying when you want to play a game w/o waking anyone up.

Yes, you can turn off those icons. Press PS button on Vita during RP, and go to Settings menu [far right].

As for PS4 wakeup sounds... I don't know. Probably not. Those sounds are part of "troubleshooting", with one beep you know that everything is OK with boot sequence.

 

[Haint]

How much lag do you guys see on this? Tried both a direct connection and over wifi and it feels like it's adding 200-300+ millisecond, making it virtually impossible to aim. My primary gaming display has 27ms of lag so the difference between the two is staggering and virtually unplayable. I couldn't even manage the loot cave.

 

[Memnoch]

Man, I have a Vita and both Destiny and Diablo and never thought to try remote play. Gonna try it out this weekend.

 

[The Real Napsta]

How much lag do you guys see on this? Tried both a direct connection and over wifi and it feels like it's adding 200-300+ millisecond, making it virtually impossible to aim. My primary gaming display has 27ms of lag so the difference between the two is staggering and virtually unplayable. I couldn't even manage the loot cave.

27? Mine has 1ms. That's crazy.

 

[darkwing]

the only thing better is DS4 support

 

[cakely]

How much lag do you guys see on this? Tried both a direct connection and over wifi and it feels like it's adding 200-300+ millisecond, making it virtually impossible to aim. My primary gaming display has 27ms of lag so the difference between the two is staggering and virtually unplayable. I couldn't even manage the loot cave.

You'll get round trip latency from your network. If it's local (vita -> wifi -> your router -> ps4) it should be sub 10ms. If you're coming in from the internet, it's going to be much higher because you're using the upstream from your ISP. (mine is about 50s from my office to my home).

200-300ms is just plain busted.

 

[BuzzJive]

I really don't like this at all. I tend to tap the screen with my giant thumbs, causing melee or grenade when I don't want to. The video also gets sporadically laggy, causing some big control jumps. I reluctantly use it to play for a bit here and there, but my experience over my couple hours of trying this is very far from mind blowing.

 

[Haint]

You'll get round trip latency from your network. If it's local (vita -> wifi -> your router -> ps4) it should be sub 10ms. If you're coming in from the internet, it's going to be much higher because you're using the upstream from your ISP. (mine is about 50s from my office to my home).

200-300ms is just plain busted.

Yea I'm talking strictly local, the PS4 is hardwired to the router with a static IP and DMZ'ed. Vita shows full wifi signal. Obviously I know remote running over the internet is going to be awful. Actually decided to look into this further based on your sub-10ms response and it indeed seems the best case end to end lag can exceed 200ms on a local network with some games. Digital foundry apparently did a piece on it. Sucks.

27? Mine has 1ms. That's crazy.

Only if you're on a CRT, otherwise you're talking about the pixel response time, which is not the same as input lag. The fastest PC monitors have ~10ms of lag, a really good television is in the 20's (only 2 or 3 hit the teens).

 

[wanders]

How does remote play compare to the Wii U's off tv play?

Same-y?

 

[BigDug13]

Yea I'm talking strictly local, the PS4 is hardwired to the router with a static IP and DMZ'ed. Vita shows full wifi signal. Obviously I know remote running over the internet is going to be awful. Actually decided to look into this further based on your sub-10ms response and it indeed seems the best case end to end lag can exceed 200ms on a local network with some games. Digital foundry apparently did a piece on it. Sucks.



Only if you're on a CRT, otherwise you're talking about the pixel response time, which is not the same as input lag. The fastest PC monitors have ~10ms of lag, a really good television is in the 20's (only 2 or 3 hit the teens).

Works ok for a game like Diablo or Minecraft, but yeah the input lag is enough to where an FPS would probably not be ideal. Never got a chance to try it with Destiny, but the input lag is definitely a major factor in making the experience not as ideal. Shooting at a loot cave, probably fine. Tackling a tough strike or raid, wouldn't recommend it.

Rendering time isn't the issue with remote play IMO. Playing the game using the Vita as a controller but your TV as a display feels the same as playing it on just the vita screen. It's the input lag that makes the experience inferior.

How does remote play compare to the Wii U's off tv play?

Same-y?

Not even close. The Wii-U remote is about the same as a Bluetooth Playstation controller as far as input lag.