nominedomine
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It the 27UL500 the cheapest monitor that supports it?
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Just a forewarning, it seems like a lot less Freesync ultimate displays are supporting than those that aren't.
So if you got one that works, you're one of the lucky ones.
Slothbeingg
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Is Samsung q70a good?
Mr Moose
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What's the cheapest 4k/120/VRR TV that's not dog shit? Are LG Nano TVs OK or should I get something like a X90J? I've seen the LG 50NANO886PB for £480, it's for my bedroom so ideally 43-50". My (60Hz) TV started to get a flickering problem earlier this year so I need to replace it.
Riky
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I've got the 55" version for my gaming room and it's very good, a couple of people who have been to my house have then purchased one themselves. Plus it doubles nicely as a PC monitor, you get 2 2.1HDMI ports instead of four on the Oleds but they cost a lot more.
Plus you get Dolby Vision.
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GrayDock
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This weekend I'll see how it goes with my Q80R, but afaik it only works with the hdmi 4 port which doesn't have the ARC function, so I would need to connect the PS5 to the TV instead of my receiver, which would limit my audio options since my receiver doesn't have eARC... Yes, I need to upgrade my receiver, but it's not the time, NOT THE TIME AT ALL!
ANIMAL1975
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I wouldn't go for the Sony if you are only gaming with it. Turning LD off for VRR is just a joke and then they market it as "Perfect for PlayStation 5". If you are mainly watching tv go for the Sony, Best Bang for Your Buck and excellent picture quality. I suggest Samsung for gaming. Maybe you can get a cheap 2019/2020 model.
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saintjules
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Venuspower
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Which is not surprising at all because FreeSync via HDMI displays have been out since well before the finalisation of the HDMI VRR specifications. The finalisation of HDMI Forum VRR took place sometime in 2017. The One X with HDMI VRR support also came out in the same year.
All monitors from before 2017 will therefore not support HDMI VRR, as they simply lack the EDID block, unless the manufacturer could provide this block with a firmware update later down the line (which is possible since the VRR function itself is no different vom FreeSync via HDMI). For monitors after 2017, it then depends on whether the monitor/TV manufacturers have implemented HDMI VRR (or whether they have inserted the corresponding EDID block). Samsung, for example, has implemented HDMI VRR for a relatively long time (in addition to FreeSync via HDMI). That is why HDMI VRR is also recognised on many older Samsung TVs. The fact that in some cases the picture flickers with HDMI VRR is due to the fact that in this case Samsung did something wrong in the implementation. Similar problems are already known with monitors or TVs that are not "G-Sync compatible".
Contrary to what some people on the internet say, this has nothing to do with HDMI 2.0 vs. HDMI 2.1. The bottom line here is simply whether or not the monitors have a corresponding EDID block for HDMI VRR. And this can also be the case with HDMI 2.0 monitors/TVs. In theory it should be possible to modify the EDID with HDFurys Dr HDMI 8K EDID manager and get HDMI VRR to run on monitors that only support FreeSync via HDMI.
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EverydayBeast
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GHG
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The LG Nano TV's are terrible unless all you care about is having access to 4k VRR at a cheapish price. All other features (such as HDR/dolby vision) exist for no reason other than for marketing checklist purposes since the panel isn't cable of outputting the brightness/colours required (along with poor local dimming) to really make use of them.
Review from Rtings:
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You can get Samsungs for not too mych more that will do a better job.
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HeisenbergFX4
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Dust-by-Monday
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Is she saying "hairy"? That's all I can see.
DeepEnigma
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People are using their PC on Sony TVs with GeForce cards without issue. Other than some not having black frame insertion.
MisterXDTV
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That's because of that shitty Mediatek SoC that Sony and other brands use on their TVs
The 2022 models will keep the same SoC, unfortunately
Samsung and LG use Proprietary SoC, so they don't rely on Mediatek at all and don't have the same issues
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HeisenbergFX4
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That list of non working monitors is sad, just do Freesync Sony.
Rocco Schiavone
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Freesync belongs to AMD not to Sony.That list of non working monitors is sad, just do Freesync Sony.
Dust-by-Monday
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If only Sony was using all AMD parts inside their consoles....
Hoddi
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It's also a royalty-free, open standard. But Sony wants to sell TVs and money printer go VRR.
Dust-by-Monday
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Makes me wonder why PS5 works on any other brand TV at all.
Sucks that Microsoft seems to have the better features, but Sony just goes ahead and does their own thing regardless.
Not hating on Sony, but I really wish I didn't have to buy a new monitor right now. I bought mine in 2019 in anticipation of the PS5, but at the time I didn't know that VRR was different from FreeSync. Although, at the time they didn't really have any HDMI 2.1 monitors on the market.
I'm a monitor guy. I hate TVs. I like the lower input lag and how the monitor just simply goes to sleep when you turn the system off and you don't need a remote or even really have to mess with display settings like noise reduction and all that stupid crap that adds extra image processing and input lag to the TV. Sorry for the rant.
DeepEnigma
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But it works on more than just Sony TVs.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's an open standard. And both modern console already have AMD innards in them.
Hoddi
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Ya, my LG monitor is unsupported as well. I'm honestly not too bothered (since I also have a PC and Xbox) but it is slightly annoying.
Yes, but skipping FreeSync support pushes people to upgrade their TVs when they otherwise wouldn't. All of the TV manufacturers benefit from this while the consumers lose out.
DeepEnigma
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But if Sony wanted to sell TVs, they would make it work with only their TVs.
Hoddi
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They don't need a monopoly to benefit from locking out FreeSync. They earn more from it even if others do so as well.
DeepEnigma
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But LG seems to have that stake. And it works on their OLED just fine.
I think there is more to it than just that. If at all that. They can add FreeSync to their TVs as well, but have yet to. I am wondering if it's chip related more so.
Hoddi
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It could be. It's entirely possible that it's too difficult for whatever reason. I'm just skeptical.
LG isn't really in the same position since they're just a display manufacturer. Their OLEDs are quite popular among PC users who might not buy them without FreeSync/Gsync support.
Mister Wolf
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That's cream of the crop. Of course it works.
dotnotbot
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Other manufacturers using Mediatek chipsets support Freesync Premium Pro just fine (Philips, Panasonic, Hisense and others).
I don't know what that guy means about TVs not supporting proper 2.1 VRR window. As long as the source device offers HDMI forum VRR compatibility it seems to work as intended.
PS5 converting Display Port to HDMI internally seems true, that's where 32 Gbps bandwidth limit comes from.
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Zok310
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What do you think?
Hoddi
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I agree, I don't think it adds up. Every single AMD GPU released since 2013 has supported Freesync including over HDMI. And Freesync literally didn't exist back then.
The original Xbox One was similarly never intended to support Freesync but it ended up working just fine. Same goes for nvidia GPUs released long before nvidia ever decided to support Freesync back in 2019. Hell, it even runs on FreeBSD which is the underlying PS5 OS so even that excuse doesn't really fly.
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rofif
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I think most people are idiots. Aliens and god do not exist and tlou2 haters are stubborn fools.
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Tlou2 is not a good gameI think most people are idiots. Aliens and god do not exist and tlou2 haters are stubborn fools.
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Zok310
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Ok, we on the same page when it comes to god, aliens and people, but tlou2 is trash.I think most people are idiots. Aliens and god do not exist and tlou2 haters are stubborn fools.
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Mahavastu
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for that large distances you should use fibre cables instead of copper. Fibre seems to have less problems with large distances.
I am using 15m cable to my projector (and an AV receiver in between), and with the copper version the 4k Signal for games from my PS5 worked fine, but it had problems when I tried to watch a 1080p bluray, so I guess it had problems with the handshake and HDCP protection.
I guess something like this would work but I got mine here in Germany, so it is not the same cable. You find more brands when you search for "hdmi cable 30+ ft fibre 8k"
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09831V5WQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
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01011001
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after looking online I think the real issue is my TV. HDMI1 is apparently the only HDMI port that works with HDMI Forum VRR and with PCs using VRR.
und so nebenbei, ich komm aus BW
Mahavastu
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Na dann, in case you have problems in the future, I got the 15m version of this cable. It looks boring compared to others, but it "just works" for everything I tried so far:after looking online I think the real issue is my TV. HDMI1 is apparently the only HDMI port that works with HDMI Forum VRR and with PCs using VRR.
und so nebenbei, ich komm aus BW
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01011001
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so far my cable works fine thankfully. but thx, I'll keep it in mind should it ever start giving me troubles
Arioco
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after looking online I think the real issue is my TV. HDMI1 is apparently the only HDMI port that works with HDMI Forum VRR and with PCs using VRR.
und so nebenbei, ich komm aus BW
That's so weird. I don't remember Samsung advertising VRR or Freesync in just one port, all four of them should be the same. If one port was different from the rest that should be described in the specs. But since you're not the only one reporting the same for that specific model it has to be as you say. But still, it's weird.
01011001
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like I said before, When looking for a new TV back then I never once saw HDMI VRR advertised whatsoever, and even when using it with the PS5 the TV doesn't call it VRR, it still calls it FreeSync Ultimate... and FreeSync is also the only available option in the menu, which needs to be set to FreeSync Ultimate in order to work with HDMI VRR in HDMI 1
I really think the TV in general wasn't really made with it in mind and simply had "stealth" support for it on a single port
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Mahavastu
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not really. For example before the 2022 models (2022 = B, 2021 = A, 2020 = T), on Samsung TVs only the HDMI4 port had HDMI2.1 and the others were "only" HDMI2.
I do not know for the 2017 models, but I would not rule it out that there were differences as well
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Arioco
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My Samsung Q7 from 2018 has 4 HDMI ports and all of them are the same. They started equipping different tiles of HDMI when HDMI 2.1 arrived, but before that there was no reason really, all of them are 2.0 anyways...
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