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[2San]

It's a multiplayer game you can play singleplayer, just like an MMO.

In the MMO's I play there's always all these people running around.

 

[djfist]

Your own fault for buying the dang thing. You're part of the problem.

Agreed! People buying legit copies of a game from a retailer has been a blight on the industry for years. Forgive me for my ignorance, sir

 

[Arklite]

now it is making me wait in a queue to play my single player game.

That is laughable. I knew this game was going to require a constant online connection but it never should have been more than verification.

 

[Kalnos]

In the MMO's I play there's always all these people running around.

Have you tried ToR?

 

[Wilsongt]

Looks like I will be playing Torchlight 2 beta until the server stuff is worked out this evening then hop in. I still am damn excited about getting home and playing D3, though.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

People are defending the game by saying it's his fault for buying the game knowing that's how it'd work.

They're not defending the game.

They're defending common sense.

 

[AppleMIX]

I completely understand why they made it online only. Still D3 launch has been terrible.

 

[Struct09]

People are being thrown into a queue because the servers are down in the US, correct? At least that's how I understand it.

Sucks that the servers being down means you can't even play on your own, but I don't think queues are something that we'll have to really deal with if the servers are up.

 

[2San]

Have you tried ToR?

Yep, there are people running around in that game(only played the beta though).

edit: Should've said ToR doesn't have que times. ;(

 

[Vitacat]

Well, you paid for the game, so ethically at least, you have (IMO) every right to use a cracked version (if there is one) to avoid that when you play single player.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Have you tried ToR?

Lol.

 

[Beef]

Blizzard really fucked up this launch. They don't work for the first hour, after that they are up and down, with several hours of maintenance peppered in. After the first block of maintenance, they have a queue system and now more maintenance.

Not to justify Blizzard's failure here, but really, nearly every Blizzard game I can remember has had a failure launch day. It's just how it works with them for some reason. Certainly not professional, but really pretty common at this point.

 

[darkwing]

In the MMO's I play there's always all these people running around.

SWTOR?

 

[Venfayth]

You can't play an MMO single player unless you play on an empty server.

Yeah, this is true. There are other differences as well, like there's group content in an MMO that you can only do in a group, that if you were playing solo you wouldn't even be able to attempt on your own.

I'm not even defending the choice to make the game this way, but I'm saying that I'm not going to keep calling this game something that it's not. And that if you're going to continue to do so, just to make a point, well... That bugs me. That's all I ever wanted to say.

 

[Mrbob]

We've know that it would be an always-online game for some time now, and the $60 you paid was a signal to Blizzard that it's okay to keep doing this. I don't really know what else to say, man.

Live and learn. We're treading new ground here. If the issues persist the backlash against Blizzard will be pretty massive with future releases.

 

[chiablo]

 

[AcceptableGhost]

What is the ETA on cpp_is_king posting in this topic.

 

[Shambles]

Your own fault for buying the dang thing. You're part of the problem.

.

 

[inky]

Have you tried ToR?

Hahahaha

 

[StickSoldier]

Diablo isn't a single player game anymore, that's why you have to be online to play it.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Best case is the backlash will force Blizzard to release an offline patch.

Reality says in a few days most will forget about this and just enjoy playing.

 

[Gui_PT]

They're not defending the game.

They're defending common sense.

It's not common sense to want to play a SINGLE PLAYER GAME in my own computer, by myself and not have to wait in a queue?



Ok I guess I'm out because this is ridiculous

 

[Kiraly]

Diablo 2 was the fastest selling game ever when it came out, so it's entirely reasonable that Blizzard just didn't realise there would be so many wanting to play the game. I mean, it's not like they know how many digital preorders there were or how many physical copies were pressed. Also, they probably don't even have any experience in a large scale online venture.

:lol :lol

 

[I H8 Memes]

You knew about it and still bought the game. That will surely convince them not to do it again.

 

[EmCeeGramr]

itt we learn that corporate pr has rendered words completely meaningless

 

[Beef]

Best case is the backlash will force Blizzard to release an offline patch.

Reality says in a few days most will forget about this and just enjoy playing.

I'd put my money on that.

 

[Fermbiz]

Think the game will be hacked to play offline with no drm check, sorta like an mmo playing on a custom sever?

 

[Arksy]

Have you tried ToR?

Yes I have. I noticed in ToR there were persistent lobbies where players could hang and chat, Vaiken spacedock always had more than 100 people running around. Does D3 have a place where players can congregate en masse? No.

ToR has competitive structured PVP. D3 doesn't.

ToR has a single persistent world (confined within servers and channels). D3 doesn't.

ToR has a limit of hundreds of people in a single zone. D3 has a limit of 4.

How are they similar? In no way is D3 similar to an MMO apart from the fact that it has an auction house.

 

[Deified Data]

I haven't bought a PC only game in probably 8 years. I bought Diablo III last night like every other douche and it played fine. I log on today to resume my quest and now it is making me wait in a queue to play my single player game. I paid $60 to wait in line. I don't give a flying f--k about multiplayer anything. I just want to veg out to this game and be left alone. Is that so much to ask? Is this what the future is going to be about? Not flying cars or hologram chicks, but logging online to play a single player game. I would LOVE someone to justify this to me. Anyone? I'm a reasonable man. I'll listen...

The Singularity is near. Given a long enough timeline there'll be lines for thinking a conscious thought.

 

[GalacticGravy]

I haven't bought the game (yet) and I have been keeping up with the always-online stuff, and the attribute changes and all...

And I was OK with all of that. Sure it wasn't exactly what I wanted, but hell, what is?

Call me stupid if you want, but queue times were never a thing I expected to see. It didn't occur to me that we were all playing on servers like in WoW.

I'm not siding with the OP or Blizzard here, I'm just saying that as a person who was planning no buying the game, and did his research about it, it didn't enter my mind that queue times would factor into this equation at all.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Have you tried ToR?

lol

 

[MRORANGE]

As long as the box said you need a internet connection to play the game, you have no reason to complain, it sucks but it's there to protect their auction house, granted if Blizzard was smart they could have created a "offline" Diablo 3 and charged double for it.

 

[Cels]

I'm more forgiving than most I guess. Any game launch with online systems like this is going to have issues. The whole situation will be fine. Right now I'm annoyed that I can't play the game but it's not the end of the world.

 

[out0v0rder]

We made our beds.

Now we must sleep in them.
The beds are made of poop.

 

[Forsaken82]

I was wondering why this game seemed to get a free pass on the DRM front, guess it hasnt

were you not here when the Always Online DRM was announced? 90% of the community was pissing and moaning about it (i was not one of them personally... If i am waiting in a queue when I get home from work, that'll be a different story... Did not anticipate wait queues in a Non MMO)

 

[Beef]

I haven't bought the game (yet) and I have been keeping up with the always-online stuff, and the attribute changes and all...

And I was OK with all of that. Sure it wasn't exactly what I wanted, but hell, what is?

Call me stupid if you want, but queue times were never a thing I expected to see. It didn't occur to me that we were all playing on servers like in WoW.

I'm not siding with the OP or Blizzard here, I'm just saying that as a person who was planning no buying the game, and did his research about it, it didn't enter my mind that queue times would factor into this equation at all.

There isn't a que time, the US servers are down and it just says "queing" for some people. Certainly not professional but it lives up to the blizzard track record of botching release days.

 

[I H8 Memes]

Think the game will be hacked to play offline with no drm check, sorta like an mmo playing on a custom sever?

Perhaps. But that wont keep this from coming to all games. They added it, people bought it, and now every company knows that people will still buy their games even with always on DRM.

 

[alr1ght]

As longs as the box said you need a internet connection to play the game, you have no reason to complain,

oh my lord

Perhaps. But that wont keep this from coming to all games. They added it, people bought it, and now every company knows that people will still buy their games even with always on DRM.

It's probably just the Blizzard/D3 effect.

 

[inky]

itt we learn that corporate pr has rendered words completely meaningless

Well, the discussion shouldn't be if it is a SP or MP game, that is boring. The reality is that it is not your game, you don't own it, Blizzard do and they decide when you will be able to play it so if they say you wait in queue you wait, and if they say you won't be able to play you won't. Deal with it.

 

[out0v0rder]

is that michael from office space where he was punching the printer?

 

[StoppedInTracks]

If crap like this comes to consoles next-gen then I'm out.

 

[Revenant]

I'm more forgiving than most I guess. Any game launch with online systems like this is going to have issues. The whole situation will be fine. Right now I'm annoyed that I can't play the game but it's not the end of the world.

Yup pretty much how I feel. Sure it sucks but we've all known Diablo III had an online requirement for awhile now and frankly how many games this gen have had server/online issues day 1.

 

[Arksy]

Perhaps. But that wont keep this from coming to all games. They added it, people bought it, and now every company knows that people will still buy their games even with always on DRM.

It's a Blizzard the game, it could've come with complimentary syphilis and it would still sell like hotcakes.

 

[Beef]

I don't mind the launch day shit, I'm actually glad that since the game forces online... there is no separation of single player gear and multiplayer gear, and also since me / my friends are forced to play online when they play, I get to see them / party with them more frequently.

 

[Mechanized]

But piracy, man. Making every legitimate buyer hate your game is nothing if that also gives you the benefit of making hacker groups work longer to crack the game than they normally would have. Don't think of it as buying a 60$ paperweight, just be happy for Blizzard that this bullshit won them like an extra 12 hours before the game is available on torrent sites.

12 hours man!

Also, UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I hate this.

Uh... Unless they can somehow reverse-engineer the server-side tech it can't be cracked at all. Period.

 

[Kayo-kun]

As I said in the D3 OT, the best choice is to wait with purchasing the game imo. Not only did they "rush" the game (yeah I said it) and couldn't include some aspects of the game such as PvP arenas on launch, but the online servers doesn't seem to work either. I don't feel like Blizzard deserves my money since they've been handling the launch of this game horribly, especially when they had so much time to work on this stuff.

 

[DimmuBurgerKing]

Is it too late for avatar quote?

Seriously, though: I feel your pain. It's a ridiculous situation.

 

[civilstrife]

You have to admire the efficacy of always-online DRM that is uncrackable because the game logic is literally stored on their servers alone. Nothing short of an internal security breach at Blizzard will lead to a crack of this game.

One step closer to our future in the cloud.

But yeah, shit's wack.

 

[Gully State]

I don't understand how any of you guys couldn't have anticipated this happening...If this gen has taught me anything, it's that any game that requires logging on to an internet server is going to be a complete mess at launch. There might be few exceptions but for the most part it's true. Publishers just don't want to shell out for server capacity on day 1 when they know that it'll go back to a proper baseline after about a week or so.

 

[Arksy]

Uh... Unless they can somehow reverse-engineer the server-side tech it can't be cracked at all. Period.

Has that ever stopped hackers & crackers before?