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It's not like he wrote Kermit's lines or the stories for him.
"I have to say, in hindsight, I feel pretty guilty that I burdened Disney by not having recast Kermit at that point because I knew that it was going to be a real problem," Henson told THR. "And I have always offered that if they wanted to recast Kermit, I was all for it, and I would absolutely help. I am very glad we have done this now. I think the character is better served to remove this destructive energy around it."
Despite being a fantastic technical puppeteer and impersonator, Henson said Whitmire made "outrageous demands and often played brinkmanship," which he was warned as far back as the mid-1990s needed to stop. Henson declined to go into specifics about Whitmire's exact demands, but did say, "Steve would use 'I am now Kermit and if you want the Muppets, you better make me happy because the Muppets are Kermit.' And that is really not OK."
Eh, there can be bad ways to do that. If the puppet team has been loyal and close with you for decades, then it can be a bit much to pressure them that youre walking away. Especially if you are rude and loud saying This is ridiculous! Im so done with this. And then you go outside the door and listen hoping for more money.And what's wrong with that? Is he supposed to just take whatever they give him?
Without the Muppet show, what is Kermit even still being acted in?
Did I just see somebody die.Choose your poison.
So basically they don't like the direction ABC took a couple of years ago and are blaming the puppeteer.
"I have to say, in hindsight, I feel pretty guilty that I burdened Disney by not having recast Kermit at that point because I knew that it was going to be a real problem," Henson told THR. "And I have always offered that if they wanted to recast Kermit, I was all for it, and I would absolutely help. I am very glad we have done this now. I think the character is better served to remove this destructive energy around it."
"Despite being a fantastic technical puppeteer and impersonator, Henson said Whitmire made "outrageous demands and often played brinkmanship," which he was warned as far back as the mid-1990s needed to stop. Henson declined to go into specifics about Whitmire's exact demands, but did say, "Steve would use 'I am now Kermit and if you want the Muppets, you better make me happy because the Muppets are Kermit.' And that is really not OK."
It's not like he wrote Kermit's lines or the stories for him.
It's still funny to me that the new Kermit, Matt Vogel, is LITERALLY Dark Kermit (Constantine)
I don't see why they have to make it so dramatic. Just say contract negotiations didn't go through. This is just making the whole thing dramatic.
performed Kermit as a bitter, angry, depressed victim," she said.
I don't see why they have to make it so dramatic. Just say contract negotiations didn't go through. This is just making the whole thing dramatic.
Cheryl seems to be confusing the man with his frog.
I can't get into the newer Muppets.
I don't think it's because Kermit was angry or depressed or whatever she's claiming.
I just think guys like Jim Henson and Frank Oz are irreplaceable.
Jim Henson and Frank Oz and the other puppeteers were the stars. It was THEIR personalities coming through the Muppets, not the other way around.
Once they all left, it just wasn't the same.
Not for me anyway. I even had trouble with Jim's son taking over. It still didn't feel right. It didn't feel like the same Kermit.
But, that's just me. I can't get into the newer Sesame Street either. There is just a disconnect between the newer cast and the original people that I can not bridge. It just looks and feels different.
I love Jim as a friend and mentor, while Cheryl loves him as a father. Don't judge her emotional posts too harshly. I hope all of you and Cheryl, too, can understand that being outspoken about these very character issues to the top creative executives on the ABC series is at the core of the number one issue stated to me for my termination by The Muppets Studios.
I'm not agreeing with the woman, but I can see how someone could form that opinion. However, I would argue that this had little to do with the person, and way more to do with the scripts.
When the Muppets came out back in 2011, Kermit's character was very somber. He was sad that he was no longer in the good old days. He also didn't feel like much of a main character. He was plot-centric, but he literally wasn't the lead.
Then you had Muppets Most Wanted which while obviously was just a humorous take on a story of Kermit going to a sad Russian Prison. Kermit had the B plot of the movie, while the entire rest of the cast (including an evil Kermit) had the spotlight.
Finally, you had The Muppets. The Office parady with the documentary style comedy. The show had a running arc that involved Kermit longing for Piggy, but dating another pig. He basically had the same emotions as Jim from the first two season of the office (or Tim if you spell color: colour), which definitely was not his energetic leader of the Muppets that we grew up with in the past.
But like I said, this has way more to do with the scripts and writing that it would the voice.
I mean what the fuck did they think Jim was trying to do? Not be on HBO, for one...
In what universe is this true?
In the DCEU, where Kermit is Zack Snyder's Superman.
... Jim Henson just licensed his puppets out to the CTW/Sesame Workshop. He contributed to some early stuff, Kermit stuff, and that's it.
And he loved HBO. That's where Fraggle Rock aired.
Admittedly I haven't watched The Muppets in probably 25 years. Was Kermit that bad? Was he ready to hang himself or something?