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The cartoon was precisely trying to criticize how vile Cruz is by using his daughters as props to advance his political agenda. You guys blasting the WaPo are insane.
Sheesh thanks for fixing my typo in the quote before posting that. That was courteous.
I agree, but that doesn't make them fair game for the rest of us.
That's how I see it. It doesn't have stupid arrows pointed at the monkeys saying "Cruz's daughters" or whatever.IMO They're depicted as props, not monkeys. You could change them to any variety of steet performing prop and the message remains the same. I don't see how this is involving kids, or at the very least it's involving them as much as using them in political ads.
Absolutely disgusting, honestly.
There's nothing new here. Kids of politicians are supposed to be off-limits, but it happened with Palin's kids, it happened with Sasha and Malia, it even happened with Chelsea Clinton back in the day. I'm sure it's been happening since before I was born.Trump's attacks and attacks on Trump notwithstanding, I've found it interesting how crossing lines when attacking members of the GOP has become fair game this cycle. What do you guys think?
I know it, and I'm dumb as fuck. It's even in Monaco.Is the organ grinder/monkey metaphor well-known in the US? Thought it was a Victorian thing.
I remember folks went after Chelsea and they got roasted by both sides.There's nothing new here. Kids of politicians are supposed to be off-limits, but it happened with Palin's kids, it happened with Sasha and Malia, it even happened with Chelsea Clinton back in the day. I'm sure it's been happening since before I was born.
I think the vitriol is more out in the open this cycle, possibly because of Donald Trump opening the bigot spigot. I'm not convinced it's more prevalent than before, though.
Is the organ grinder/monkey metaphor well-known in the US? Thought it was a Victorian thing.
Going after someone's kids is pure chickenshit.
Going after someone's kids is pure chickenshit.
It was a typo. I meant to say they aren't choosing to be a part of it.If Cruz is forcing them to be involved, it's not fair. I'm not for making fun of kids, but If they are choosing to be a part of it, then I think it's fair game. When I saw the cartoon without context earlier, I really thought it was a comment on his opinions on evolution.
It was a typo. I meant to say they aren't choosing to be a part of it.
Yeah, because the cartoonist was going after his daughters...
How are they going after his kids, and not Cruz specifically for using them for political purposes?
They didn't "go after" his daughters. They drew him and didn't draw his daughters.Going after someone's kids is pure chickenshit.
Example?
To be fair, they drew two monkeys and not characatures of Ted Cruz's daughters. I saw them as placeholders in an effort to NOT depict his daughters.
If someone drew this about me and my daughter I would feel more embarrassed than victimized personally. I might feel different if they drew my daughter.
Cruz is doing a pretty good job at framing it in a way that people see it in the light he wishes IMO
Wouldn't that be a legit reason to do the opposite?I'll never vote for Ted Cruz cause he looks too much like Grandpa Munster
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By involving them at all and by depicting them as fucking monkeys. Is it that hard to understand or is this the usual bullshit "Anything favoring the Democrats = good and must be excused" brand of tribalism?
How did Cruz use his kids in a way that politicians before haven't? Don't all politicians parade the family around?
How did Cruz use his kids in a way that politicians before haven't? Don't all politicians parade the family around?
How did Cruz use his kids in a way that politicians before haven't? Don't all politicians parade the family around?
How did Cruz use his kids in a way that politicians before haven't? Don't all politicians parade the family around?
That's what I was wondering. He doesn't seem to be doing anything out of the ordinary.
They didn't "go after" his daughters. They drew him and didn't draw his daughters.
Are we not allowed to critisize him for ising his daughters as props without someone shrilly screaming that we're "going after his daughters"?
How do you draw this cartoon and make the critique in a better way?
for me, it just feels like an impossible thing to critisize if we aren't allowed to even REFERENCE his daughter indirectly.Oh it could be worse for sure, I still think it's distasteful. By addressing in that way it's just feeding into the cycle but simply ignoring it lets him go unchallenged. Maybe it isn't something for a political cartoon.
Did the cartoonist just duplicate one of the monkeys and change its size and shoe color? Talk about lazy.
Im sure the pres' kids get tons of shit from GOP/its base. Nothing new here.
for me, it just feels like an impossible thing to critisize if we aren't allowed to even REFERENCE his daughter indirectly.
It's kinda like saying someone is politicizing a tragic event when they try to fix it.
To be clear: I am not a person who blindly supports attacks on these people even if I disagree with them.
Eh, that's kind of a non response. That's like saying you shouldn't critisize NRA loving politicians too close to a school shooting. They didn't attack his daughters. We're just listening to ankther bulky point at a drawing if hin that excludes his daighters and cry.The answer is that you don't draw this particular cartoon and instead think up something more creative that doesn't involve using monkeys as stand-ins for his kids.
I actually think he looks like he can be a character in Dishonored, but that's just meI'll never vote for Ted Cruz cause he looks too much like Grandpa Munster
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Ted's kids cameo in a lot of stuff thanks to the PAC footage dump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI9Eqk9onhM
https://vine.co/v/e2eYpbrVPDB
The kids didn't stand for cute pics, Cruz put them to read his party lines.Of course he didn't. But let's not cloud the issue with facts when there's defense forcing to be done!
I overheard some dude on Fox News calling the cartoon "child abuse". Couldn't roll my eyes any harder. It might be in poor taste, but it's not fucking child abuse.