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War for the Planet of the Apes - Review thread. (RT= 96%)
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Same here, the Dunkirk trailer bored me to death and the Spidey movie seems to have too much RDJ.
Now we're treading some murky waters: Star Wars OT, Before, Dollars, Evil Dead, Lord of the Rings... That competition is fucking formidable. Unless Apes 3 is a revelation then I'm gonna say nah.
The fact that it even enters the conversation still says a lot. What an unexpected achievement these films are.
Wag
Member
Don't call us "monkeys" you filthy human!!!
The first film is too weak for me to sign on to a "greatest trilogy ever" bandwagon.
Especially compared to something like the Before series or the LOTR trilogy. I guess Star Wars is debatable since Jedi was weak as well.
I think the trailer shows pretty much all of Downey's scenes, doesn't it? They said they paid him $5 million per day of shooting for three total days, so he can't be in it a ton.
broncobuster
Banned
Agreed about the first one, but I also appreciate how it showed Caeser's beginnings now as we're seeing the full picture.
demosthenes
Member
From early impressions and the report he was on set for like 3 days, he's in a few scenes at best.
I was talking sci-fi, but ok. Just hasn't been a good sci-fi trilogy since...well Star Wars.
Before trilogy and Dollars trilogy too.
Or Toy Story, or The Cornetto Trilogy, or Godfather or Bourne.
lightskintwin
Banned
Nah I don't think it's officially doomed, just believe it's not going to do that well in America given it's competition, and the timing of it's release. Plus I don't think marketing has done a good job conveying why movie goers should care to go watch it instead of the other big budget films that'll be in theaters besides the brand of Nolan. The International market could very well make up for it. Who knows. However if this movie reviews really well which I suspect it will, it should've came out in the fall during Oscar season and benefited off of that.
Sorry, fair enough. I was just saying this could potentially be a really great trilogy in a genre that historically gets bad trilogies.
I keep forgetting The Godfather is a trilogy, just like I keep forgetting that Indiana Jones isn't.
Toy Story is a contender, though. Maybe Batman as well, although I haven't seen too many apologists for the third one on GAF.
You could be right, but I think a big war film, especially with Nolan's name being splashed around, could be a good bet during all of these comic book/sci-fi films, and The Emoji Movie is the only big thing coming the week after. Plus it's only around two hours, which will help it, too, I think.
But like you said, this may be the kind of movie people wait on reviews for.
PabloBolivar
Banned
Finally a good summer flick.
And a fridge can save you from a nuke.
Fancyarcher
Member
I'm currently predicting 150m+ and I'm sticking with that, unless reviews are bad, legs should be good. Plus everyone on the box office website I post on, says that the film may be underestimated and that there is a decent enough interest in it according to reports. Will see!
That has always been a lazy overdone "non complaint" from the film, IMO.
Nobody says the Star Wars Septology. There's the original trilogy, the prequel trilogy and now the TFA.
Same with Indiana Jones, there's the original trilogy and that other movie.
lightskintwin
Banned
A war movie that doesn't involve America, nor have most of Americans ever heard of it, and has no American stars. Really the only thing it has going for it is Nolan directed it and it's probably good if not great. I suspect American audiences would rather watch escapism cinema in July rather than a serious war film if given the chance, and they'll have those options with Spider Man, War for the Planet of the Apes, and Valerian being in the theaters at the same time.
150 million domestically? I just don't see it, tbh.
TheStruggler
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loved the first 2, so excited to see this
Fancyarcher
Member
You could be surprised, especially since Nolan's films have tended to very good legs. Will see anyway!
From what I have heard, Dunkirk shares more in common with Gravity than it does typical WW2 dramas.
That's true. I just get the feeling attaching Nolan's name and the Dark Knight movies to all of the marketing will pay off, though I'm not sure how much it will pay off. I don't think it'll be a monster hit, but it'll certainly get a good chunk of audience. BoxOffice projected it to make $60 million in its opening and $240 million domestically, but we shall see!
You're right, it's not very good, it's great.
Every Star Wars trilogy has its own story, though. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is a straight-up sequel to The Last Crusade, with the same cast and the same director to boot. All that separates Crystal Skull from its predecessors is time and quality.
lightskintwin
Banned
The problem is you're comparing films in different genres with different stars that had broader appeal that opened during better times for those type of films and simplifying them all to them being Nolan films therefore they should all respond similarly with audiences at the box office.
Hell I've heard Dunkirk has more in common with Mad Max: Fury Road. The problem is does the marketing convey that?
Man, I thought 150 million was pushing it, but 240? Perhaps I'm just completely off and will be proven wrong big time. I think it's going to have a tough time getting 100 million domestically, but what do I know? LOL
So is this going to be a trilogy, is this film the end to the story ?
To be honest I've not watched any of these yet (for shame my last dabble with Planet Of The Apes was the older series of films) but if it's the 'ending' I'd be tempted to watch the other two and go to the cinema to see this. If it's a 'middle of the story' kind of film I'd leave it until the lot's finished.
To be honest I've not watched any of these yet (for shame my last dabble with Planet Of The Apes was the older series of films) but if it's the 'ending' I'd be tempted to watch the other two and go to the cinema to see this. If it's a 'middle of the story' kind of film I'd leave it until the lot's finished.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Awesome. Really looking forward to it.
Like he says it is very very rare that the third one is better than ever expected in a trilogy. Can't wait to see this movie.
Eh I think Star Wars and LotR dropped the ball in their final movies so a really strong movie already elevates the Apes trilogy above those.
Big Green Anus
Member
I saw the first one of the trilogy and it was good. How is the second one compared to he first?
Diprosalic
Banned
different but better.
if you liked the first there's only a small chance you don't dig the second one.
It's a lot better
Double the awesomeness.
So far, no. However, the subject matter and release time lends itself to really good legs. A 4-5x opening weekend multiplier isn't that unreasonable if the opening isnt huge. Dunkirk is definitely a film that will need strong reviews and WOM though.
Poor Return of the King. Won 11 Oscars, one of the highest Oscar sweeps in film history and it still somehow maintains its reputation as the disappointing let-down in the trilogy.