BudokaiMR2
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So this beta is out for everyone now right?
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Warhammer 40K Dawn of War 2 multiplayer beta
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Oh god, I just experienced some good old Venom Cannon abuse. That weapon is just insane right now. Best part is after losing our armies to it, my partner decided to abuse right back and proceeded to blow up their HQs with a couple of booby traps.
DoWII is a mess right now; I hope Relic does a good job of fixing things up for the day 0 patch. The game is a lot of fun regardless, and the 20 hours listed on steam playing this game seem to agree with me. :lol
DoWII is a mess right now; I hope Relic does a good job of fixing things up for the day 0 patch. The game is a lot of fun regardless, and the 20 hours listed on steam playing this game seem to agree with me. :lol
Fragamemnon
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BudokaiMR2 said:
yeah anyone can get it off Steam right now. Have at it, it's kinda fun even though it's really rough around the edges. like coral reef rough.
GR.org is a shithouse. Even the better players there are fanboys and trolls, bar a few exceptions. Fuck, I beat Seacow in a 1vs1, he bitched me out when he lost, and then he posted a thread about how he was quitting CoH. :lol I think it might be the worst forum I've ever posted on.ghst said:
Anyway, this game is seriously vexing me. It's so frustrating having a game that is fun to play, yet infuriating at the same time. And coming from CoH has my mind boggling even more.
I just can't understand why the resources work the way they do; Green Tooth Jungle is just glorified musical chairs. It's just not fun. I want to fuck some shit up, but I've got to spread my units out to capture the same goddamn points for the billionth time.
Man, there's so much raging I could do about this game. It can be a lot of fun, but after over twenty hours I'm getting bored. Micromanagement in this game is minimal, and just not that enjoyable. I just don't understand why the fucked so many things up that they got right in CoH, and didn't fix a lot of their major problems. It's hilarious that the Kommando bombs are broken after the eternity of raging about the British Commando's Demo. Charges in CoH.
Someone talk me into liking this, because I want to.
pjberri said:
haha, i remember that. i'd love to see the replay if you've still got it kicking around? and yeah, i'm not going to argue that gr is anything but a onerous majority rule hive, but there was definite positive incline in opinion towards the game building up to the patch, after the extremely rocky start.
Morbid Angel
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ccgenerals
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wow, just experienced how op the hive tyrant is with a vc. such a different feeling from when you're the one using the vc
How is it possible for a company to make a game that is simultaneously completely awesome and totally horrible?
If it wasn't for the freaking slow matchmaking, crashes on load, crashes in game, and lag in game, multiplayer would be fantastic!
... assuming you got matched with equally skilled players
... and assuming people aren't abusing the bugs that have been around since they patched, but then did not hotfix
The game itself is awesome, but actually playing a lag free, crash free, evenly matched 3v3 is a mythical prospect
If it wasn't for the freaking slow matchmaking, crashes on load, crashes in game, and lag in game, multiplayer would be fantastic!
... assuming you got matched with equally skilled players
... and assuming people aren't abusing the bugs that have been around since they patched, but then did not hotfix
The game itself is awesome, but actually playing a lag free, crash free, evenly matched 3v3 is a mythical prospect
Morbid Angel
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Crab Milk Mickey
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So who's going to buy this when it's available?
Virtua Ben
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MicVlaD said:
I've already got it pre-ordered on steam.
Damn now that's a preorder bonus. :lolMorbid Angel said:
I so wanted to do that, but I'm a sucker for preorder bonuses. I'm pretty sure retail copies can register and download through Steam, so I went with Gamestop for the eight exclusive colors.GAZERK said:
MaritalWheat
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Not I...after jizzing all over the promise of this game thread after thread, I really have not felt the urge to play it all that often since getting my hands on the beta. Guess I'll just wait till a price drop or have a friend pick it up for my birthday, but with Empire: TW, a CoH patch, and this Men of War I hear so much about on the horizon, this hasn't impressed me enought to warrant a release purchase.MicVlaD said:
whalenapp81
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The MP part is the main drawback for me, I have been playing the beta and the matchmaking system is completely borked for me. I really do hope that they fix that on the day 0 patch, the other bugs dont bother me, but out of 20 or so, attempted 3v3 games i have only been able to complete 3. The others always had somebody drop out and then the match crashes. I have not been impressed with the gfwl mp system (though im not sure what kind of mp system they are implementing). I just dont want to do some stupid ass port forward shit for a pc game, something i have to do for my xbox360 but ive never done before for a pc game.
Okay, HUGE update, read the blog-post here:
http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blogs/?p=510
If you rather just have the whole list, have fun, it's huge:
http://community.dawnofwar2.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=9771
Very nice stuff.
http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blogs/?p=510
If you rather just have the whole list, have fun, it's huge:
http://community.dawnofwar2.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=9771
Very nice stuff.
Crab Milk Mickey
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Requisition resource rates are now reduced depending on game size.FoxSpirit said:
Requisition points now increase by +5 requisition every 20 seconds (up from 15), up to a maximum of +30 (down from 35).
Fixed an issue with the Apothecarys Heal ability that prevented it from properly healing infantry.
Units in cover are too vulnerable to suppression. As a result, cover has been made more effective at dissipating suppression.
Fixed a bug where the UI failed to update with Squad Leader upgrade if a previously purchased leader died while the squad was selected.
Fixed matchmaking. TrueSkill rank should properly be updated in TeamBattle games, and stats should be more reliable when being recorded.
Matchmaking now has a preference for lower pings.
Reduced the frequency of checking Steam authentication - it was causing users who momentarily lost their connection to Steam to be ejected from a game in progress.
Fixed a bug where replay speed would display incorrectly during game replays.
Squad tabs in replays now show up when switching perspectives and always load the first two units when the replay starts.
I like.
Mohonky
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Darklord said:
You should be able to run it at that res fairly well on medium settings. It's definitely a more optimised engine than Opposing Fronts. Your specs aren't terrific but they should run the game so long as you aren't maxing the shit out of it or anything. The games requirements aren't all that high.
I was running Company of Heroes with an AMD 2700+, 1.5gb ram and 256mg 6600GT alright on XP.
Fragamemnon
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ghst said:
I'll agree with this, and go one step beyond-I want to see the game demonstrate that it can really excel in 1v1 play. Even for a midrange online RTS player like me, everything just felt too hollow when I played the beta-the builds are really predictable and there's not enough of the cat-and-mouse outwitting like there is in more "grown up" RTS games.
Honestly, they should have just made the game's multiplayer a Diablo-esque co-op PvE loot-and-level fest.
I'll stick with CoH / Age of Empires 3 for now for multiplayer.
Fragamemnon
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Sinatar said:
Everything I've read seems to say that the campaign/co-op mode is somewhat repetitive and limited. :|
What I was referring to something with NUTSO levels of itemization/stats/abilities and customization. What's in there certainly offers you more RPG elements than, say, Mass Effect, but hey that's hardly saying much.
DenogginizerOS
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I have a P4 3.4 GHZ, 2GB of RAM, and an 8600 GT. I was able to run COH really well, but DOW2 got really chunky when a lot of things happened on the screen. I have had to scale back to low resolution. Just FYI. Maybe the final version's optimization will improve this.Darklord said:
Fragamemnon said:
all the mechanics are there for a deep and gratifying 1v1 game, they just need to be tuned. it's like if in street fighter the medium and light attacks were often totally negated by the overbearing power of fireballs and heavies.
the new patch looks promising, certainly leaving some things in a semi-broken state, but it seems far more incremental and in tune with community feedback than what i've come to expect from relic.
i've grown to adore the feel of this game, without trying to sound toe curlingly vague. it's compulsive as all hell and the opportunity to making this the concise, skirmish based micro-centric rts is entirely there. it just needs to balanced so that the more delicate elements of the game's combat mechanics aren't crushed under the sledgehammer of those more flashy and overbearing. something relic obviously are investing in given how situational and potentially vulnerable even the t3 tanks are.
i'm sticking with it for now. gonna put down a pre-order.
Crab Milk Mickey
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Didn't those complaints stem from a (according to those who read / heard the complaints) rather questionable review, written by PC Magazine or something? I ask because that review is the only non-preview article I've seen that actually discusses the campaign.Fragamemnon said:
Fragamemnon
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MicVlaD said:
I'm going off something by PCGamer UK reinforced by the GameInformer review online. Yeah, not exactly the best cross section, but not really too hopeful.
shrapnelmagnet
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I've learned this from my peers and now I personally subscribe to it.
If something is wrong, you can spend an undetermined amount of time incrementing towards a solution... OR you can tune it WAY in the other direction and see if that's too far. Now you have a pseudo-box around the whole issue - allowing you to do those incremental tunes with a lot more accuracy.
So when the game was one way, if you go too far in the opposite direction (in a Beta, no less), you'll at least understand approximately where your "sweet spot" might be.
If this was the full version where you're messing with paying customers' play experience, there might be a case for backlash, but this is a Beta - a player-beware sort of experience, I'd say.
I used to be the "incremental tuner" until senior on the team told me to make a really radical change and I argued with him for some time... then I tried it and noticed I was making progress faster towards something that felt right.
Just my thoughts on it - could be biased, though... but I didn't work on the MP
If something is wrong, you can spend an undetermined amount of time incrementing towards a solution... OR you can tune it WAY in the other direction and see if that's too far. Now you have a pseudo-box around the whole issue - allowing you to do those incremental tunes with a lot more accuracy.
So when the game was one way, if you go too far in the opposite direction (in a Beta, no less), you'll at least understand approximately where your "sweet spot" might be.
If this was the full version where you're messing with paying customers' play experience, there might be a case for backlash, but this is a Beta - a player-beware sort of experience, I'd say.
I used to be the "incremental tuner" until senior on the team told me to make a really radical change and I argued with him for some time... then I tried it and noticed I was making progress faster towards something that felt right.
Just my thoughts on it - could be biased, though... but I didn't work on the MP
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Binary search approach to design. Makes sense.shrapnelmagnet said:I've learned this from my peers and now I personally subscribe to it.
If something is wrong, you can spend an undetermined amount of time incrementing towards a solution... OR you can tune it WAY in the other direction and see if that's too far. Now you have a pseudo-box around the whole issue - allowing you to do those incremental tunes with a lot more accuracy.
So when the game was one way, if you go too far in the opposite direction (in a Beta, no less), you'll at least understand approximately where you're "sweet spot" might be.
If this was the full version where you're messing with paying customers' play experience, there might be a case for backlash, but this is a Beta - a player-beware sort of experience, I'd say.
I used to be the "incremental tuner" until senior on the team told me to make a really radical change and I argued with him for some time... then I tried it and noticed I was making progress faster towards something that felt right.
Just my thoughts on it - could be biased, though... but I didn't work on the MP
Isn't this game coming out this week? Where is the official thread?
Mohonky said:
the game technically isn't supposed to be out yet, and you effectively broke the street date. authentication might not be set, servers might still be down. and it's not just authentication - there is a day 0 patch that will update your game when you install it.
i don't want to be some kind of shilling white knight, but you have very little reason to be angry or surprised about this.
Mohonky said:
it's accepted in this case because it's a total non-issue. if you really want to direct your anger, point it at whoever sold you the game and broke the street date.
and if someone explained the benefits of steam to me- and how it would shape my gaming habits in the future, i'd have been stoked.
As much as I absolutely love 40k, I'm holding off on buying this. I had way, way, way too many laggy/incomplete 3v3 games, and that's assuming someone didn't crash on load. And that's after waiting 3+ minutes for an automatch to go off.
If it turns out the launch patch fixes some of that up, or they're working on it as a priority, I'm in, but I'll wait to hear impressions first. Otherwise I'll just wait to pick it up at a discount :|
If it turns out the launch patch fixes some of that up, or they're working on it as a priority, I'm in, but I'll wait to hear impressions first. Otherwise I'll just wait to pick it up at a discount :|
Mohonky
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Darklord said:
It will tell you it needs to activate on Steam as soon as you press install, it opens Steam client, you enter the code you get in the back of the manual to activate, then Steam immediately shuts down.
So yeh, you can't do anything at this point.
Basically, gotta wait till whenever Steam activate which is likely to be US time so 2 days from now. So I have no idea whether Steam needs to be on or not after that.
Seriously I dunno why some people are so apologetic for online activation. The street date for the game in Australia is tomorrow which is the 18th. Going by that, that would mean the game is effectively useless till the day after it's release anyway. Some stores broke street date which is when I got a call to pick up my copy. I have it, it's legit. The fact I can't play a legitimately purchased game is in my mind ludicrous. I hope the same names telling me to fuck off right now are swinging the same routine in the next 'DRM is shit' thread.