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Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide Beta discussion thread
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Aztechnology
Member
There's definitely variations of weapons with different rolls for special stats on weapons. As far as armor there's different helmets (cosmetic only I believe) but no actual armor as of now.
I don't know if I'd buy in based on the loot system. It's very random and grindy right now. It's one of the more obvious faults with the game and a frequent complaint.
It's a weird thing to screw up on if you ask me, the loot grind mechanic would've been a great hook if done well.
It's a weird thing to screw up on if you ask me, the loot grind mechanic would've been a great hook if done well.
WhiskeyDiver
Member
I'm loving the game so far, but getting shafted after a normal run with 2 loot die + 3 tome + 2 grimlores and getting a shitty green out of it kinda sucked honestly. I should be thankful that I have a solid group of people to play with as well. Everyone voice chats and communicates on every single important detail.
But god dammit...fuck wizards tower on hard with 2 grimlores.
But god dammit...fuck wizards tower on hard with 2 grimlores.
The development seemed super low key from the getgo. I don't even know if the devs made full clients available to reviewers before today. They had streams going a where they were still making serious adjustments on the game just last week.
I am thinking they made builds available recently, I also imagine it is a title that not all outlets will cover. Still, would be nice to see someone collect what is out there so far.
Definitely, feels like it's really flying under everyone's radar but all the people who have played it seemed to be talking up a storm about it from what I've seen. Really just came out of left field though with this one.
Aztechnology
Member
Exactly which is why I think it's so important to get the word out. I'm probably going to make the OT tonight if it's not already up. This game deserves the attention. Best co-op game I've played in a long time.
qa_engineer
Member
14 more minutes on my download. AM EXCITE.
-MD-
Member
Yes, they plan on adding more of everything. Said they wanna alternate between free dlc and paid dlc but will make sure any paid dlc won't split the userbase. First dlc will likely be free.
So I imagine maps will be free and they'll charge for new characters/cosmetics.
Krappadizzle
Member
I've gotten 2 hard-locks in 20 mins of playing this, requiring full reboots. GTX 980Ti/16gb ram/i7-4770k playing off an SSD. It needs some patching. CTD's are annoying, hard-locks are fucking terrible. Not a very good first impression at all.
Aztechnology
Member
Why this game has VOIP off by default makes no sense. There's too many people who can't communicate because they don't realize it's off.
Yeah, the loot system leaves a lot to be desired. Hate crossbows and never play the Imperial? GUESS WHAT YOU GET FROM EVERY SINGLE RUN YOU DIRTY MAGE PICKER.
Also, I'm not enjoying the arena levels much. They give nice visual variety but having 8 stormvermin stop your grain sack grab on normal is a bit much - there really seems to be little strategy to fighting the special enemies other than keeping distance. No nuance to the melee outside of the counters which become a shit-show against multiple foes.
I think I'm getting burnt out already - shame.
Admiral Snackbar
Member
I would do AWFUL, EXPENSIVE things for an orc class. Like...I can't even describe the depths I would descend to.
RenegadeXV8
Banned
I think at this point a Lizardman class is far more likely... they're always fighting the Skaven and lean towards the 'Neutral' side of things.
I don't care for playing as orcs since I can't see my character, but fighting against orcs? You had my wallets curiosity, now you have its attention.
Admiral Snackbar
Member
Oh for sure. Not necessarily a plausible request but...man, the BANTER.
"OI, ya weedy gitz! Put dat drink in yer gob an' let'z get ta choppin'!"
"Lookit dat fuzzy fing wiff da shoota! I WANT DAT FLASH!"
GatticusFinch
Member
The last level of this game is quite possibly the worst difficulty spike of any video game ever.
I'm really starting to hate the loot system.
I'm really starting to hate the loot system.
I cave and got the game im liking it but man they really need to fix some of the bugs, crashed twice now and some of the events simply don't end. Black Powder level you get the 8 Barrels get on the ship..then nothing.
In any case steam name is KangarooBeard if anyone wants to add me we should get a GAF group going.
In any case steam name is KangarooBeard if anyone wants to add me we should get a GAF group going.
Believe someone claimed the spot to make the thread but hasn't replied yet to see if he/she is still doing it.
Karak
Member
They didn't. I have been following it and working with the devs on coverage for 2 years and still same moment as everyone else went live. But its been covered in tons of outlets and actually has had a good deal of promotion for a medium sized title. Its just not for everyone including reviewers who are going to have to be GOOD to review it and I know after talking to some folks that many reviewers were having a tough time even completing any of the levels.
Yup - I'm getting tired of the game already because I only play two classes and all my good drops are for the other three. And only the wizard seems to have any real massive differences on a weapon to weapon basis.
Eh, the combat is way less complex than I had hoped. Game looks great and feels good but, after about a dozen hours or so, I think I'm done.
timetokill
Banned
I just found out about this game. L4D in the Warhammer universe sounds fun, but then again my favorite part of L4D is the versus mode.
I guess I'm just worried about the possible lack of depth or replay.
I guess I'm just worried about the possible lack of depth or replay.
I feel the game is limited at the moment, but I believe Fatshark will put a lot in developing it with the reception and sales they have received.
I look at a similar title like Chivalry and where it was when first released and now after 3 years and great sales, its almost a new game... hopefully the same happen here with more classes, weapons, enemies and in depth loot system.
I look at a similar title like Chivalry and where it was when first released and now after 3 years and great sales, its almost a new game... hopefully the same happen here with more classes, weapons, enemies and in depth loot system.
Aztechnology
Member
Holy shit. My team died during the barrel section on the horn mission. I got through alone, on nightmare and killed a rat ogre single handedly and revived them all. I used the Ogre's AOE to kill small adds lol.
I would be so happy if this happened, you don't even know.
Secondary weapon could be the skink blowdarts and give me spears and clubs/swords w/shields for primaries.
Though, considering this is set in the end times there might not be any Lizardmen left.
Yea but they didnt actually come to help the humans during the end times. I think vampires are more likely.
Sit up on the floor above the far back left spell area(as you walk in the door), they all just jump up there for you to slaughter
RenegadeXV8
Banned
On what difficulty? I cleared it with a friend + 2 Bots on Normal without much trouble.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
You know someone else might as well do the OT considering whoever claimed it has not put anything up.
Game is pretty good, tested it out on the shoddy rig. Should run well on the new one. Considering this system is about 6 years old.
Most def this is something to be played with friends though. As can really see randoms fucking things up. That and the AI does have freakouts at times which causes them to get messed up with pathing / advancing in certain sections for whatever reason.
Game is pretty good, tested it out on the shoddy rig. Should run well on the new one. Considering this system is about 6 years old.
Most def this is something to be played with friends though. As can really see randoms fucking things up. That and the AI does have freakouts at times which causes them to get messed up with pathing / advancing in certain sections for whatever reason.
John Rabbit
Banned
had a blast with this last night, but with only one random. really shocked there's no OT for this so we can coordinate who's playing.
Karak
Member
My review and thanks to the Devs for their help these past couple weeks.
ACG Rated it a Buy Link
As some don't like youtube, or hell just me. Here are the pros and cons
Pros
Multiplayer works great
Music
Sound
Voice
Level design(most of them)
AI is "pretty good" Better than most but not a human
Characters weaponry and interaction/Hit Detection differences
Performance(for what its doing)
Cons
Level Design on 2 levels was bad. Lots of bugs AI mistakes
Loot system is a wash
Honestly as I say in the review this is the most fun I have had in a action game, and maybe any game, in 1-2 years. It is absolutely rock solid as a title.
ACG Rated it a Buy Link
As some don't like youtube, or hell just me. Here are the pros and cons
Pros
Multiplayer works great
Music
Sound
Voice
Level design(most of them)
AI is "pretty good" Better than most but not a human
Characters weaponry and interaction/Hit Detection differences
Performance(for what its doing)
Cons
Level Design on 2 levels was bad. Lots of bugs AI mistakes
Loot system is a wash
Honestly as I say in the review this is the most fun I have had in a action game, and maybe any game, in 1-2 years. It is absolutely rock solid as a title.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Found the post, 1 page back from the current one of all things.
So whoever wanted to do the OT now is weapons free basically. (Aztechnology this means you.) lol
-MD-
Member
This is interesting as the game isn't well optimized.
Chance Hale
Member
Yeah, my framerate often drops to the high 30s/low 40s with a 980Ti at 1440p
Alex Connolly
Member
Karak
Member
Ya its been awesome and thats why it says "performance for what its doing". I expected far worse.
Getting 60 fps almost constant with a 980gtx. Which that many characters and such I am VERY happy with that. I of course did the changes that they noted. I can't remember which ones had the warning originally, but there are 2-3 that set to extreme and when they get set to high you get back like 20-30 frames. Also max shadow allowed casting lights is half as its bugged on extreme(maxed to the right). So I guess that is either optimized or just downright shouldn't be an option right now lol .Still get the occasional drop but for what its doing. Man very happy.
EDIT: I am doing a tech video in the next couple days once I get all my notes in order because changing some nvidia settings concerning monitor performance(single performance) adjusted that as well if I remember my benchmarks correctly.
-MD-
Member
I get 60fps when i'm indoors or there isn't a lot of action going on but during swarms I drop down into the 40s and even the 30s in rarer instances. This is on medium settings.
GTX 970 / 3570k OC'd @ 4.2 / 8gb ram / 1080p
Definitely looking forward to some performance patches cause I should be crushing this game even on max settings.
Aztechnology
Member
Ouch, I'm on Extreme with a 970, 4670k 4.6ghz OC. I get 60, with rare drops to 30-40 when in huge swarms. But average around 50 GPU OC at +165 GPU, +290 memory
RenegadeXV8
Banned
About performance, a dev posted this on reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Vermintide/comments/3q0xtm/performance_is_really_bad/cwbkaim?context=3
Just FYI: I've been personally working on optimizations 95% of the time the last week, and will probably continue to do so for a while. Upcoming patches will run better.
Fatshark is in a different state now than it has been before. Things changeBut don't take my word for it, wait and see what happens.
Karak
Member
Thanks cool. Odd how many people with 970's are reporting such huge variables compared to other cards even older ones. Had a couple subscribers hitting me up. Its like an anti-sweet spot or something.