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[MrCunningham]

Triple A pricing for a kick-starter game smh.

They are only doing this to make it fair for the early beta pledgers on Kickstarter. Access to the early beta was in the $55 dollar tier and it would've been a kick in the shins to backers if they gave this early access away for cheaper than the backers paid.

 

[Vinterbird]

Why would anyone defend this pricing scheme? Beta access usually tends to be cheaper.. It would make them more revenue since more people would get it. Now people will just wait until it's done and get it cheaper too.

That's good. Because if the beta was dirt cheap, people would buy it without reading what it is and then go on here or somewhere else and be angry about it being a bad / unfinished game.

At this price they hopefully scare away people not willing to understand that it is a beta, and then when the product is finished, the price is lowered and the experience is better, the word of mouth will not be as negative.

 

[Like the hat?]

So if I went with the base kickstarter get the game level, can it play it right now?

 

[Eusis]

That's good. Because if the beta was dirt cheap, people would but it without reading what our is and then go on here or somewhere else and be angry about it being a bad game.

At this price they hopefully scare away people not willing to understand that it is a beta, and then when the product is finished, the price is lowered and the experience is better, the word of mouth will not be as negative.

Yeah, I wanna hear how it is so far as this IS tempting. It'd be like backing with a test version of the final product out there for people to talk about rather than hoping they working off of just promises.

 

[Vinterbird]

So if I went with the base kickstarter get the game level, can it play it right now?

Nope. You will have to wait until the game is actually finished and published.

 

[Like the hat?]

Nope. You will have to wait until the game is actually finished and published.

Son of a butt

 

[Vinterbird]

Son of a butt

Well. What is up on Steam right now is not the final game with all the content, so you wouldn't get what you paid for if you dived in to it now.

 

[Gaogaogao]

That's good. Because if the beta was dirt cheap, people would buy it without reading what it is and then go on here or somewhere else and be angry about it being a bad / unfinished game.

At this price they hopefully scare away people not willing to understand that it is a beta, and then when the product is finished, the price is lowered and the experience is better, the word of mouth will not be as negative.

if they want money now, they should get rid of all the extras and charge less, at most $30, so people don't feel like they are taking a hit just to give them a chance. doesn't make sense.

 

[Vinterbird]

if they want money now, they should get rid of all the extras and charge less, at most $30, so people don't feel like they are taking a hit just to give them a chance.

Then they don't want the money now. Those who want to pay 30, should wait until the game is actually done and published.

 

[Vlodril]

if they want money now, they should get rid of all the extras and charge less, at most $30, so people don't feel like they are taking a hit just to give them a chance. doesn't make sense.

If they did that everyone that backed it for 50 in order to get access to the beta would be pissed. That would be stupid since its those people along with everyone else at kickstarter that payed for the game to be made.

You can wait until its out.

 

[Skelter]

if they want money now, they should get rid of all the extras and charge less, at most $30, so people don't feel like they are taking a hit just to give them a chance. doesn't make sense.

Good thing they don't need your money.

 

[Sentenza]

Why would anyone defend this pricing scheme? Beta access usually tends to be cheaper.. It would make them more revenue since more people would get it. Now people will just wait until it's done and get it cheaper too.

Well, too bad for them?
The point is that if you asked to your backers 50, 60, or even 200 dollars to access a beta, then you can't just lower that price to 20 bucks when the beta is actually out, because that would be *fucking scam* toward your early supporters, who paid a lot more for the promise of a privilege you are now conceding for a lot cheaper.

No one is saying 60 dollars for an alpha are a great deal, but if you don't want to pay that much money (and I don't want either, just to be clear), then you have just to wait for the release.

Whining is out of place.

 

[Gaogaogao]

Good thing they don't need your money.

they already have it, lol

alls im saying is, 60 is reaching.

 

[Skelter]

they already have it, lol

alls im saying is, 60 is reaching.

Well, too bad for them?
The point is that if you asked to your backers 50, 60, or even 200 dollars to access a beta, then you can't just lower that price to 20 bucks when the beta is actually out, because that would be *fucking scam* toward your early supporters, who paid a lot more for the promise of a privilege you are now conceding for a lot cheaper.

No one is saying 60 dollars for an alpha are a great deal, but if you don't want to pay that much money (and I don't want either, just to be clear), then you have just to wait for the release.

Whining is out of place.

Pretty much this. Why not just wait for the full game to be released if it's so much?

 

[TheDarkKnight774]

they already have it, lol

alls im saying is, 60 is reaching.

Eh it maches the ks tier plus a tax. if you're a backer then if you could upgrade to the tier and just pay the difference. If you don't then skip it.

 

[Soyongdori]

I hope this game grows big. Fallout 2 is still my favorite PC game of all time, just because there were way too many things to do in the game.

User generated content is a big plus.

 

[The Dear Leader]

$60... no thanks, I can wait.

 

[CecilRousso]

I hope this game grows big. Fallout 2 is still my favorite PC game of all time, just because there were way too many things to do in the game.

They've promised pretty much that.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I think I backed this for 55 but I can't remember. Either way, I can't play this or Starbound with my PC not being hooked up ><

 

[Fistwell]

Is price point gonna change at release? I'd jump in at 10-15€, but 45€ is ridiculous. Guess I might have to wait for steam sales.

 

[TheContact]

This looks awesome but I'm just going to wait for the final release, the only kickstarter I backed was project eternity but who doesn't love wasteland?

 

[Fantastapotamus]

I'm fascinated people don't understand this. Every.Single.Time.

The kickstarter tier to get into an early beta was 55 (I think). If they would now say "Well, fuck those guys, let's offer the same thing for half the price" they would screw over their backers. Simple as that. You want in on the Beta, you pay the kickstarter tier for the Beta. Wait for the full game (generally a good idea) and shut up.

Also what the hell woulb be wrong with charging 50€ for a full-fledged RPG? Jesus people...

 

[Fantastapotamus]

Is price point gonna change at release? I'd jump in at 10-15€, but 45€ is ridiculous. Guess I might have to wait for steam sales.

It's on the page on steam....

We expect the final release price will be lower, but the free copy of Wasteland 1 and the extra goodies are exclusive to Early Access

 

[Fantastapotamus]

Is price point gonna change at release? I'd jump in at 10-15&#8364;, but 45&#8364; is ridiculous. Guess I might have to wait for steam sales.

It's on the page on steam....

We expect the final release price will be lower, but the free copy of Wasteland 1 and the extra goodies are exclusive to Early Access

Edit: Sorry, is there a way to delete this dp?
Edit wtf is going on? I didn't mean to do this. I look very smart now.....

 

[Labadal]

I see they fixed the €55 price to €45. Good.

 

[water_wendi]

are you trying to tell me its not broken?

If they put up Early Access for $29.99 and you were a backer who got the KS Tier with Beta Access for $55 how would you feel? This price is temporary.

 

[Labadal]

Is price point gonna change at release? I'd jump in at 10-15€, but 45€ is ridiculous. Guess I might have to wait for steam sales.

€45 is fair game. €55, on the other hand, was not.

 

[Kinyou]

That early access games start at such a high price point is always a but paradox to me. It makes sense considering the people who pledged that much to kickstarter, but in terms of logic you'd think that the full, finished game would cost more than the early betas.

edit: of course, you also get the finished game when it's done, so it makes a bit more sense when you consider it as an extra beta fee on top of the game.

 

[King_Moc]

Fucking hell, paying extra to be their fucking beta tester!?

 

[Bomber Bob]

Fucking hell, paying extra to be their fucking beta tester!?

#swag

 

[Imp the Dimp]

60 bucks to be their beta tester? That's just stupid. Makes them look reallly shady honestly.

 

[water_wendi]

Fucking hell, paying extra to be their fucking beta tester!?

From what ive seen of the game so far its more stable and content complete than most GOTY branded re-releases.

 

[Labadal]

That early access games start at such a high price point is always a but paradox to me. It makes sense considering the people who pledged that much to kickstarter, but in terms of logic you'd think that the full, finished game would cost more than the early betas.

edit: of course, you also get the finished game when it's done, so it makes a bit more sense when you consider it as an extra beta fee on top of the game.

The game is among the top selling games on Steam, right now. It seems enough people think it makes sense.

 

[SparkTR]

This is basically the Kickstarter Beta reward tier on Steam. They can't change that and it's in-line with their tier model.

Either pay for the beta tier, or ignore until release.

 

[water_wendi]

That early access games start at such a high price point is always a but paradox to me. It makes sense considering the people who pledged that much to kickstarter, but in terms of logic you'd think that the full, finished game would cost more than the early betas.

edit: of course, you also get the finished game when it's done, so it makes a bit more sense when you consider it as an extra beta fee on top of the game.

Honestly.. if this were me in Inxiles position.. i would price Early Access for this price but add the equivalent to those DLC Season Passes that are so common to the mix. Not sure if they are doing any DLC or whatever but something along those lines would help with the price image issue.

 

[Serra]

I don't see anything wrong with that price. Personally I will wait until final release since I don't care about the extras.

 

[Vamphuntr]

So I kickstarted this and people can simply pay to play it before me. Wow. This and the unfair voting Torment thing has me soured on any Inxile kickstarter now.

 

[Labadal]

So I kickstarted this and people can simply pay to play it before me. Wow. This and the unfair voting Torment thing has me soured on any Inxile kickstarter now.

The Steam version costs as much or more than the KS Beta Access Tier.

 

[Kurtofan]

So I kickstarted this and people can simply pay to play it before me. Wow. This and the unfair voting Torment thing has me soured on any Inxile kickstarter now.

You could have picked the Beta testing tier or something like that.

 

[BrokenFiction]

So I kickstarted this and people can simply pay to play it before me. Wow. This and the unfair voting Torment thing has me soured on any Inxile kickstarter now.

You can go to Inxile's website and upgrade your pledge tier with the difference to get beta access if you want. I pledged too and I've seen enough to wait for it.

 

[Brazil]

So I kickstarted this and people can simply pay to play it before me. Wow. This and the unfair voting Torment thing has me soured on any Inxile kickstarter now.

Did you pay enough for the Beta?

If not, lol at your complaints.

 

[NervousXtian]

I could care less what they put the price at, but this and Planetary Annihilation, show that one of the flaws of KS is trying to keep backers happy and then still go on and sell the product they backed.

It's one of the major issues.. because fuck all I should I care that you felt ripped off by the KS... the point of crowdfunding shouldn't be pre-ordering products... it should be getting projects off the ground that otherwise wouldn't have gotten off the ground.

The whole idea that rewards have to equal dollar value is asinine. It defeats the purpose, and honestly in cases like this it builds ill-will towards the developers.

You think that Planetary Annihilation won't/isn't being affected by the bad press about the pricing structure on Steam?

When the discussion isn't about your game, but the price being too high.. .even if it's completely unfounded... that's bad.

A good solution is to offer private games on Steam that can only be bought by keys, not by money. That way you don't have a huge price tag to not try and piss people off.

When your solution is 2 choose who to piss off least.. you lost.

 

[Durante]

I'm fascinated people don't understand this. Every.Single.Time.

The kickstarter tier to get into an early beta was 55 (I think). If they would now say "Well, fuck those guys, let's offer the same thing for half the price" they would screw over their backers. Simple as that. You want in on the Beta, you pay the kickstarter tier for the Beta. Wait for the full game (generally a good idea) and shut up.

Also what the hell woulb be wrong with charging 50€ for a full-fledged RPG? Jesus people...

Yeah, it's amazing how this needs to be explained over and over again.

 

[mattiewheels]

I came in here expecting beta impressions, I'm so silly.

But I guess some people will find anything to complain about. If you wanted beta, you should've paid for that tier.

 

[Big_Al]

Looking forward to the game greatly but happy to wait until release. $30 for 2 copies of the game ? Can't complain about that

 

[NervousXtian]

Yeah, it's amazing how this needs to be explained over and over again.

It's not amazing, and it's not surprising. We all knew the discussion would be about this... and will CONTINUE to be about this in the forums on Steam and until release.

It's not like history hasn't shown them exactly what the reaction would be.

 

[Moon_frogger]

Not a good value proposition for me. Then again, I rarely pay that price for a triple a title. This year I think gtav and last of us are the only games I paid 60 dollar for.

And yes I get it, but kick starter has never been about getting the most bang for your buck. It's about fans supporting a passion project that would have never got made.

 

[tirkaroKujo]

Ech...
I was sorta excited for the beta before, but 60 bucks? While I certainly understand why it's priced that way, and I've loved what I've seen from the game so far, there's no way I can seriously convince myself to pay that much money for a game I'm not 100% sure is gonna be that good in the end. Guess I'll just have to wait it out.

 

[Hubb]

Ech...
I was sorta excited for the beta before, but 60 bucks? While I certainly understand why it's priced that way, and I've loved what I've seen from the game so far, there's no way I can seriously convince myself to pay that much money for a game I'm not 100% sure is gonna be that good in the end. Guess I'll just have to wait it out.

If you understand why it is 60 bucks then why are you surprised? I know big games releasing from Kickstarter backing is still new, but I don't understand some people in this thread. Every Kickstarter project that offered early access has matched it's backer tier.

 

[renitou]

I'm happy to wait until it's finished and pay less. This pricing is consistent with their established buy-in price for beta access, which is a fair gesture to those that already decided that paying more for early access was worthwhile, sight unseen of a real product. That faith has been encouraged and rewarded. Good on the developers.